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If You Could Change Only 1 Thing in ESO...
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✭✭✭✭✭It would the RNG... Definitely the RNG. I just can't anymore. I can't. Not until that next incremental patch. I can't. I refuse.2 -
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✭✭✭What would you change?
I'd change RNG, because it's something that causes the death of games. While it's often used as a means of keeping playing, it's also a means for customers to stop playing. While also spreading negative feedback of the game. It's just something I wish game developers as a whole would move away from. ._.
^ This. ^
I'd remove ALL the RNG. All of it. Including silly gamble boxes. What you see is what you get. A stamina reward for a stamina build completing content. Magicka reward for magicka builds, etc. So many times my mages have been given an AXE of an obviously magicka-based set - I mean, WTF sort of use is that, then?
I love doing the content, questing, PvP, trials, dungeons, the shebang - but I don't want to grind for stuff. That seems like work to me and this is a game. I retired from working 8 years ago.RIP Atherton, my beautiful little gentle friend. I will miss you forever. Without you I am a hollow shell.3 -
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✭✭Mount skills account wide. It seriously gimps new toons in pvp.
Change rng in vma. Do it on stam you get a stam weapon like for like with mag.
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Drakoleon✭✭✭✭REFUND would be nice since Zeni's director declares that the game is optimized and LAG is no more an issue "server side"2
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
As long as Zenimax is still adding new content, stuff is going to get delayed. Then again, some stuff is just plain difficult as *** to fix. Doesn't mean they stopped trying though. After all, can you PROVE they stopped trying? If not then you cannot adequately accuse them of it. Far as face value is concerned, yes Zenimax tends to be two-faced in which they say one thing and then turn around and say another and for that reason nothing is ascertain anymore, but there is no reason to believe they stopped trying to fix bugs and lag, whether it takes a few months or 10 years.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Since ESO is the only game published by ZOS to date they are one in the same.
I would completely erase the forums. It would increase everyone's enjoyment of the game 100%.
The only change that would come from taking Zenimax out of the picture is the removal of the entire game. Singling out employees to fire is also considered bashing and more likely to get this thread locked. So, once again, it's best anything directed directly at Zenimax not be involved. Besides, they don't have GMs so they cannot be in their game anyway, except as players
Also the forums take nothing away from my enjoyment of the game lol in fact I get people occasionally acting all like OMG IT'S ULTIMAJOE777 THE CREATOR OF THREADS and stuff
Aye to a point, but its also a right of the consumer to point the blame, if somethings incompetent, get rid.
They are only letting themselves down and a lot of of their playerbase, some issues plaguing the game, have been in since the closed betas of 2013 ...
Its simple, they can do their damned job and do whatever is required to make the game right for everyone, e.g, lag free would be amazing.
If I find a company is incompetent I simply stop playing their game. I've quit games with good potential I actually enjoyed because the devs did something with it to ruin it, usually P2W stuff. Same case here: Don't like what the devs are doing? Don't play their game, simple as that. I get people hang on because it's The Elder Scrolls but sometimes you just gotta know when to decide "it's not worth it" if it truly isn't for you.clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
If the forums had a spam folder he would be a heavy hitter in it.
That makes no sense, in more ways than one.
Lol ok, you must be one of these tortoise shell fan bois, who are militantly against any form of feedback about the game, its not a case of me having to prove anything, e.g, they said it would be a lag free megaserver way back in 2013.
Still waiting, apart from periods where there has actually been no lag, its generally ok but with amazing pings over a rock solid connection, all ports open, so its not client based issues, its them.
Again, no offence, but you are a console player, which is a lot easier to code for than for PC, with the myriad of different configurations, and even on console, there is reports of lag.
So hide your head in the sand all you want, the issues exist, so again, its not a case of proving that they are doing or not doing anything, its a case of a almost consisitent level of service since the game launched , for PC anyways, all they done was warp the same flawed engine and megaserver tech over to console players, and funnily enough a lot of issues are the same.
There is nothing wrong with feedback, and if its negative, then it shows that work needs done, and especially if a number of players have ranted from varying platforms over issues, which plague us all, either a lot, or intermittently.
I can see what you are saying, but the issues do exist, they might not exist for you, but for many, it does, and nothing gets done that actually proves to be consistent.
Latency lag exists, it does not matter on the strength of your net speed, or w/e, its their tech, it just cannot handle it.
Your argument lost credibility when you resorted to "fan boi". Feedback is feedback, but hating is hating. If this were a debate, I would've won when you made this comment hands down. It isn't though, so I'll just say have a nice day and walk away knowing you were unable to present a proper point kthxbai
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.
in reality WoW is a superior mmo, if you put the team of blizzard on this with the intent of learning from wows mistakes and keeping it eso then eso would be a far better mmo, the zos team just isnt competent
Then go play WoW if you think it's so much better and Zenimax is so incompetent.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on September 6, 2016 8:09PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
As long as Zenimax is still adding new content, stuff is going to get delayed. Then again, some stuff is just plain difficult as *** to fix. Doesn't mean they stopped trying though. After all, can you PROVE they stopped trying? If not then you cannot adequately accuse them of it. Far as face value is concerned, yes Zenimax tends to be two-faced in which they say one thing and then turn around and say another and for that reason nothing is ascertain anymore, but there is no reason to believe they stopped trying to fix bugs and lag, whether it takes a few months or 10 years.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Since ESO is the only game published by ZOS to date they are one in the same.
I would completely erase the forums. It would increase everyone's enjoyment of the game 100%.
The only change that would come from taking Zenimax out of the picture is the removal of the entire game. Singling out employees to fire is also considered bashing and more likely to get this thread locked. So, once again, it's best anything directed directly at Zenimax not be involved. Besides, they don't have GMs so they cannot be in their game anyway, except as players
Also the forums take nothing away from my enjoyment of the game lol in fact I get people occasionally acting all like OMG IT'S ULTIMAJOE777 THE CREATOR OF THREADS and stuff
Aye to a point, but its also a right of the consumer to point the blame, if somethings incompetent, get rid.
They are only letting themselves down and a lot of of their playerbase, some issues plaguing the game, have been in since the closed betas of 2013 ...
Its simple, they can do their damned job and do whatever is required to make the game right for everyone, e.g, lag free would be amazing.
If I find a company is incompetent I simply stop playing their game. I've quit games with good potential I actually enjoyed because the devs did something with it to ruin it, usually P2W stuff. Same case here: Don't like what the devs are doing? Don't play their game, simple as that. I get people hang on because it's The Elder Scrolls but sometimes you just gotta know when to decide "it's not worth it" if it truly isn't for you.clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
If the forums had a spam folder he would be a heavy hitter in it.
That makes no sense, in more ways than one.
Lol ok, you must be one of these tortoise shell fan bois, who are militantly against any form of feedback about the game, its not a case of me having to prove anything, e.g, they said it would be a lag free megaserver way back in 2013.
Still waiting, apart from periods where there has actually been no lag, its generally ok but with amazing pings over a rock solid connection, all ports open, so its not client based issues, its them.
Again, no offence, but you are a console player, which is a lot easier to code for than for PC, with the myriad of different configurations, and even on console, there is reports of lag.
So hide your head in the sand all you want, the issues exist, so again, its not a case of proving that they are doing or not doing anything, its a case of a almost consisitent level of service since the game launched , for PC anyways, all they done was warp the same flawed engine and megaserver tech over to console players, and funnily enough a lot of issues are the same.
There is nothing wrong with feedback, and if its negative, then it shows that work needs done, and especially if a number of players have ranted from varying platforms over issues, which plague us all, either a lot, or intermittently.
I can see what you are saying, but the issues do exist, they might not exist for you, but for many, it does, and nothing gets done that actually proves to be consistent.
Latency lag exists, it does not matter on the strength of your net speed, or w/e, its their tech, it just cannot handle it.
Your argument lost credibility when you resorted to "fan boi". Feedback is feedback, but hating is hating. If this were a debate, I would've won when you made this comment hands down. It isn't though, so I'll just say have a nice day and walk away knowing you were unable to present a proper point kthxbaiUltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.
in reality WoW is a superior mmo, if you put the team of blizzard on this with the intent of learning from wows mistakes and keeping it eso then eso would be a far better mmo, the zos team just isnt competent
Then go play WoW if you think it's so much better and Zenimax is so incompetent.
Facts speak for itself, and the fan boi usage, is used in conjuncton for those who cant see issues when they exist, and I am not remotely interested whether you accept truthful points or not, you are actually a fan boi, its not hating, its fact.
So walk away and bury your head in the sand all you want, what I said was factual, the games been out for 2 odd years and some issues are still prevalent now as they were at game launch, as the core systems are still crap and cant handle the playerbase, I mean, they got rid of deer thinking it would make a difference to pvp lag.
And no you would not have won any debate, the facts speak for themselves, even on consoles, the same issues that plague the game, plague console players of this flawed yet great game.
Feedback is feedback.
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
As long as Zenimax is still adding new content, stuff is going to get delayed. Then again, some stuff is just plain difficult as *** to fix. Doesn't mean they stopped trying though. After all, can you PROVE they stopped trying? If not then you cannot adequately accuse them of it. Far as face value is concerned, yes Zenimax tends to be two-faced in which they say one thing and then turn around and say another and for that reason nothing is ascertain anymore, but there is no reason to believe they stopped trying to fix bugs and lag, whether it takes a few months or 10 years.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Since ESO is the only game published by ZOS to date they are one in the same.
I would completely erase the forums. It would increase everyone's enjoyment of the game 100%.
The only change that would come from taking Zenimax out of the picture is the removal of the entire game. Singling out employees to fire is also considered bashing and more likely to get this thread locked. So, once again, it's best anything directed directly at Zenimax not be involved. Besides, they don't have GMs so they cannot be in their game anyway, except as players
Also the forums take nothing away from my enjoyment of the game lol in fact I get people occasionally acting all like OMG IT'S ULTIMAJOE777 THE CREATOR OF THREADS and stuff
Aye to a point, but its also a right of the consumer to point the blame, if somethings incompetent, get rid.
They are only letting themselves down and a lot of of their playerbase, some issues plaguing the game, have been in since the closed betas of 2013 ...
Its simple, they can do their damned job and do whatever is required to make the game right for everyone, e.g, lag free would be amazing.
If I find a company is incompetent I simply stop playing their game. I've quit games with good potential I actually enjoyed because the devs did something with it to ruin it, usually P2W stuff. Same case here: Don't like what the devs are doing? Don't play their game, simple as that. I get people hang on because it's The Elder Scrolls but sometimes you just gotta know when to decide "it's not worth it" if it truly isn't for you.clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
If the forums had a spam folder he would be a heavy hitter in it.
That makes no sense, in more ways than one.
Lol ok, you must be one of these tortoise shell fan bois, who are militantly against any form of feedback about the game, its not a case of me having to prove anything, e.g, they said it would be a lag free megaserver way back in 2013.
Still waiting, apart from periods where there has actually been no lag, its generally ok but with amazing pings over a rock solid connection, all ports open, so its not client based issues, its them.
Again, no offence, but you are a console player, which is a lot easier to code for than for PC, with the myriad of different configurations, and even on console, there is reports of lag.
So hide your head in the sand all you want, the issues exist, so again, its not a case of proving that they are doing or not doing anything, its a case of a almost consisitent level of service since the game launched , for PC anyways, all they done was warp the same flawed engine and megaserver tech over to console players, and funnily enough a lot of issues are the same.
There is nothing wrong with feedback, and if its negative, then it shows that work needs done, and especially if a number of players have ranted from varying platforms over issues, which plague us all, either a lot, or intermittently.
I can see what you are saying, but the issues do exist, they might not exist for you, but for many, it does, and nothing gets done that actually proves to be consistent.
Latency lag exists, it does not matter on the strength of your net speed, or w/e, its their tech, it just cannot handle it.
Your argument lost credibility when you resorted to "fan boi". Feedback is feedback, but hating is hating. If this were a debate, I would've won when you made this comment hands down. It isn't though, so I'll just say have a nice day and walk away knowing you were unable to present a proper point kthxbaiUltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.
in reality WoW is a superior mmo, if you put the team of blizzard on this with the intent of learning from wows mistakes and keeping it eso then eso would be a far better mmo, the zos team just isnt competent
Then go play WoW if you think it's so much better and Zenimax is so incompetent.
Facts speak for itself, and the fan boi usage, is used in conjuncton for those who cant see issues when they exist, and I am not remotely interested whether you accept truthful points or not, you are actually a fan boi, its not hating, its fact.
So walk away and bury your head in the sand all you want, what I said was factual, the games been out for 2 odd years and some issues are still prevalent now as they were at game launch, as the core systems are still crap and cant handle the playerbase, I mean, they got rid of deer thinking it would make a difference to pvp lag.
And no you would not have won any debate, the facts speak for themselves, even on consoles, the same issues that plague the game, plague console players of this flawed yet great game.
Feedback is feedback.
No, the fan boi usage is a cop out people use to attempt to label or insult someone when the one using the term has no better argument. Wanna be taken more seriously? Then argue more maturely and don't resort to personal attacks.
That said, we are done here. Have a nice day
P.S. Debates are intellectual and reasonable arguments. The moment you resort to insulting is the moment you lose, period.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on September 6, 2016 10:04PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.
So contribute or goUltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
As long as Zenimax is still adding new content, stuff is going to get delayed. Then again, some stuff is just plain difficult as *** to fix. Doesn't mean they stopped trying though. After all, can you PROVE they stopped trying? If not then you cannot adequately accuse them of it. Far as face value is concerned, yes Zenimax tends to be two-faced in which they say one thing and then turn around and say another and for that reason nothing is ascertain anymore, but there is no reason to believe they stopped trying to fix bugs and lag, whether it takes a few months or 10 years.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Since ESO is the only game published by ZOS to date they are one in the same.
I would completely erase the forums. It would increase everyone's enjoyment of the game 100%.
The only change that would come from taking Zenimax out of the picture is the removal of the entire game. Singling out employees to fire is also considered bashing and more likely to get this thread locked. So, once again, it's best anything directed directly at Zenimax not be involved. Besides, they don't have GMs so they cannot be in their game anyway, except as players
Also the forums take nothing away from my enjoyment of the game lol in fact I get people occasionally acting all like OMG IT'S ULTIMAJOE777 THE CREATOR OF THREADS and stuff
Aye to a point, but its also a right of the consumer to point the blame, if somethings incompetent, get rid.
They are only letting themselves down and a lot of of their playerbase, some issues plaguing the game, have been in since the closed betas of 2013 ...
Its simple, they can do their damned job and do whatever is required to make the game right for everyone, e.g, lag free would be amazing.
If I find a company is incompetent I simply stop playing their game. I've quit games with good potential I actually enjoyed because the devs did something with it to ruin it, usually P2W stuff. Same case here: Don't like what the devs are doing? Don't play their game, simple as that. I get people hang on because it's The Elder Scrolls but sometimes you just gotta know when to decide "it's not worth it" if it truly isn't for you.clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
If the forums had a spam folder he would be a heavy hitter in it.
That makes no sense, in more ways than one.
Lol ok, you must be one of these tortoise shell fan bois, who are militantly against any form of feedback about the game, its not a case of me having to prove anything, e.g, they said it would be a lag free megaserver way back in 2013.
Still waiting, apart from periods where there has actually been no lag, its generally ok but with amazing pings over a rock solid connection, all ports open, so its not client based issues, its them.
Again, no offence, but you are a console player, which is a lot easier to code for than for PC, with the myriad of different configurations, and even on console, there is reports of lag.
So hide your head in the sand all you want, the issues exist, so again, its not a case of proving that they are doing or not doing anything, its a case of a almost consisitent level of service since the game launched , for PC anyways, all they done was warp the same flawed engine and megaserver tech over to console players, and funnily enough a lot of issues are the same.
There is nothing wrong with feedback, and if its negative, then it shows that work needs done, and especially if a number of players have ranted from varying platforms over issues, which plague us all, either a lot, or intermittently.
I can see what you are saying, but the issues do exist, they might not exist for you, but for many, it does, and nothing gets done that actually proves to be consistent.
Latency lag exists, it does not matter on the strength of your net speed, or w/e, its their tech, it just cannot handle it.
Your argument lost credibility when you resorted to "fan boi". Feedback is feedback, but hating is hating. If this were a debate, I would've won when you made this comment hands down. It isn't though, so I'll just say have a nice day and walk away knowing you were unable to present a proper point kthxbaiUltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.
in reality WoW is a superior mmo, if you put the team of blizzard on this with the intent of learning from wows mistakes and keeping it eso then eso would be a far better mmo, the zos team just isnt competent
Then go play WoW if you think it's so much better and Zenimax is so incompetent.
Facts speak for itself, and the fan boi usage, is used in conjuncton for those who cant see issues when they exist, and I am not remotely interested whether you accept truthful points or not, you are actually a fan boi, its not hating, its fact.
So walk away and bury your head in the sand all you want, what I said was factual, the games been out for 2 odd years and some issues are still prevalent now as they were at game launch, as the core systems are still crap and cant handle the playerbase, I mean, they got rid of deer thinking it would make a difference to pvp lag.
And no you would not have won any debate, the facts speak for themselves, even on consoles, the same issues that plague the game, plague console players of this flawed yet great game.
Feedback is feedback.
No, the fan boi usage is a cop out people use to attempt to label or insult someone when the one using the term has no better argument. Wanna be taken more seriously? Then argue more maturely and don't resort to personal attacks.
That said, we are done here. Have a nice day
P.S. Debates are intellectual and reasonable arguments. The moment you resort to insulting is the moment you lose, period.
And yet not once in this thread have you contributed to the OP,every single one of your posts in her has been to argue how someone feels in THIER opinion. I Think you need to go have a good day.9 -
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.
So contribute or goUltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
As long as Zenimax is still adding new content, stuff is going to get delayed. Then again, some stuff is just plain difficult as *** to fix. Doesn't mean they stopped trying though. After all, can you PROVE they stopped trying? If not then you cannot adequately accuse them of it. Far as face value is concerned, yes Zenimax tends to be two-faced in which they say one thing and then turn around and say another and for that reason nothing is ascertain anymore, but there is no reason to believe they stopped trying to fix bugs and lag, whether it takes a few months or 10 years.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Since ESO is the only game published by ZOS to date they are one in the same.
I would completely erase the forums. It would increase everyone's enjoyment of the game 100%.
The only change that would come from taking Zenimax out of the picture is the removal of the entire game. Singling out employees to fire is also considered bashing and more likely to get this thread locked. So, once again, it's best anything directed directly at Zenimax not be involved. Besides, they don't have GMs so they cannot be in their game anyway, except as players
Also the forums take nothing away from my enjoyment of the game lol in fact I get people occasionally acting all like OMG IT'S ULTIMAJOE777 THE CREATOR OF THREADS and stuff
Aye to a point, but its also a right of the consumer to point the blame, if somethings incompetent, get rid.
They are only letting themselves down and a lot of of their playerbase, some issues plaguing the game, have been in since the closed betas of 2013 ...
Its simple, they can do their damned job and do whatever is required to make the game right for everyone, e.g, lag free would be amazing.
If I find a company is incompetent I simply stop playing their game. I've quit games with good potential I actually enjoyed because the devs did something with it to ruin it, usually P2W stuff. Same case here: Don't like what the devs are doing? Don't play their game, simple as that. I get people hang on because it's The Elder Scrolls but sometimes you just gotta know when to decide "it's not worth it" if it truly isn't for you.clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
If the forums had a spam folder he would be a heavy hitter in it.
That makes no sense, in more ways than one.
Lol ok, you must be one of these tortoise shell fan bois, who are militantly against any form of feedback about the game, its not a case of me having to prove anything, e.g, they said it would be a lag free megaserver way back in 2013.
Still waiting, apart from periods where there has actually been no lag, its generally ok but with amazing pings over a rock solid connection, all ports open, so its not client based issues, its them.
Again, no offence, but you are a console player, which is a lot easier to code for than for PC, with the myriad of different configurations, and even on console, there is reports of lag.
So hide your head in the sand all you want, the issues exist, so again, its not a case of proving that they are doing or not doing anything, its a case of a almost consisitent level of service since the game launched , for PC anyways, all they done was warp the same flawed engine and megaserver tech over to console players, and funnily enough a lot of issues are the same.
There is nothing wrong with feedback, and if its negative, then it shows that work needs done, and especially if a number of players have ranted from varying platforms over issues, which plague us all, either a lot, or intermittently.
I can see what you are saying, but the issues do exist, they might not exist for you, but for many, it does, and nothing gets done that actually proves to be consistent.
Latency lag exists, it does not matter on the strength of your net speed, or w/e, its their tech, it just cannot handle it.
Your argument lost credibility when you resorted to "fan boi". Feedback is feedback, but hating is hating. If this were a debate, I would've won when you made this comment hands down. It isn't though, so I'll just say have a nice day and walk away knowing you were unable to present a proper point kthxbaiUltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.
in reality WoW is a superior mmo, if you put the team of blizzard on this with the intent of learning from wows mistakes and keeping it eso then eso would be a far better mmo, the zos team just isnt competent
Then go play WoW if you think it's so much better and Zenimax is so incompetent.
Facts speak for itself, and the fan boi usage, is used in conjuncton for those who cant see issues when they exist, and I am not remotely interested whether you accept truthful points or not, you are actually a fan boi, its not hating, its fact.
So walk away and bury your head in the sand all you want, what I said was factual, the games been out for 2 odd years and some issues are still prevalent now as they were at game launch, as the core systems are still crap and cant handle the playerbase, I mean, they got rid of deer thinking it would make a difference to pvp lag.
And no you would not have won any debate, the facts speak for themselves, even on consoles, the same issues that plague the game, plague console players of this flawed yet great game.
Feedback is feedback.
No, the fan boi usage is a cop out people use to attempt to label or insult someone when the one using the term has no better argument. Wanna be taken more seriously? Then argue more maturely and don't resort to personal attacks.
That said, we are done here. Have a nice day
P.S. Debates are intellectual and reasonable arguments. The moment you resort to insulting is the moment you lose, period.
And yet not once in this thread have you contributed to the OP,every single one of your posts in her has been to argue how someone feels in THIER opinion. I Think you need to go have a good day.
Well I'd have a BETTER day if PSN wasn't down again
As for my "contributions", mainly keeping the thread on track. Personally there isn't really anything I want changed, so that is why I have not given anything in that regard. Also it's a free forum, I can comment on someone's opinions if I want to, and since I have not flat out called them out on it no harm no foul. Now then, let us keep the discussion civil as enough trash talk has happened already to put this thread at risk of locking.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on September 6, 2016 10:22PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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zuto40✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.
So contribute or goUltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
As long as Zenimax is still adding new content, stuff is going to get delayed. Then again, some stuff is just plain difficult as *** to fix. Doesn't mean they stopped trying though. After all, can you PROVE they stopped trying? If not then you cannot adequately accuse them of it. Far as face value is concerned, yes Zenimax tends to be two-faced in which they say one thing and then turn around and say another and for that reason nothing is ascertain anymore, but there is no reason to believe they stopped trying to fix bugs and lag, whether it takes a few months or 10 years.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Since ESO is the only game published by ZOS to date they are one in the same.
I would completely erase the forums. It would increase everyone's enjoyment of the game 100%.
The only change that would come from taking Zenimax out of the picture is the removal of the entire game. Singling out employees to fire is also considered bashing and more likely to get this thread locked. So, once again, it's best anything directed directly at Zenimax not be involved. Besides, they don't have GMs so they cannot be in their game anyway, except as players
Also the forums take nothing away from my enjoyment of the game lol in fact I get people occasionally acting all like OMG IT'S ULTIMAJOE777 THE CREATOR OF THREADS and stuff
Aye to a point, but its also a right of the consumer to point the blame, if somethings incompetent, get rid.
They are only letting themselves down and a lot of of their playerbase, some issues plaguing the game, have been in since the closed betas of 2013 ...
Its simple, they can do their damned job and do whatever is required to make the game right for everyone, e.g, lag free would be amazing.
If I find a company is incompetent I simply stop playing their game. I've quit games with good potential I actually enjoyed because the devs did something with it to ruin it, usually P2W stuff. Same case here: Don't like what the devs are doing? Don't play their game, simple as that. I get people hang on because it's The Elder Scrolls but sometimes you just gotta know when to decide "it's not worth it" if it truly isn't for you.clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
If the forums had a spam folder he would be a heavy hitter in it.
That makes no sense, in more ways than one.
Lol ok, you must be one of these tortoise shell fan bois, who are militantly against any form of feedback about the game, its not a case of me having to prove anything, e.g, they said it would be a lag free megaserver way back in 2013.
Still waiting, apart from periods where there has actually been no lag, its generally ok but with amazing pings over a rock solid connection, all ports open, so its not client based issues, its them.
Again, no offence, but you are a console player, which is a lot easier to code for than for PC, with the myriad of different configurations, and even on console, there is reports of lag.
So hide your head in the sand all you want, the issues exist, so again, its not a case of proving that they are doing or not doing anything, its a case of a almost consisitent level of service since the game launched , for PC anyways, all they done was warp the same flawed engine and megaserver tech over to console players, and funnily enough a lot of issues are the same.
There is nothing wrong with feedback, and if its negative, then it shows that work needs done, and especially if a number of players have ranted from varying platforms over issues, which plague us all, either a lot, or intermittently.
I can see what you are saying, but the issues do exist, they might not exist for you, but for many, it does, and nothing gets done that actually proves to be consistent.
Latency lag exists, it does not matter on the strength of your net speed, or w/e, its their tech, it just cannot handle it.
Your argument lost credibility when you resorted to "fan boi". Feedback is feedback, but hating is hating. If this were a debate, I would've won when you made this comment hands down. It isn't though, so I'll just say have a nice day and walk away knowing you were unable to present a proper point kthxbaiUltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.
in reality WoW is a superior mmo, if you put the team of blizzard on this with the intent of learning from wows mistakes and keeping it eso then eso would be a far better mmo, the zos team just isnt competent
Then go play WoW if you think it's so much better and Zenimax is so incompetent.
Facts speak for itself, and the fan boi usage, is used in conjuncton for those who cant see issues when they exist, and I am not remotely interested whether you accept truthful points or not, you are actually a fan boi, its not hating, its fact.
So walk away and bury your head in the sand all you want, what I said was factual, the games been out for 2 odd years and some issues are still prevalent now as they were at game launch, as the core systems are still crap and cant handle the playerbase, I mean, they got rid of deer thinking it would make a difference to pvp lag.
And no you would not have won any debate, the facts speak for themselves, even on consoles, the same issues that plague the game, plague console players of this flawed yet great game.
Feedback is feedback.
No, the fan boi usage is a cop out people use to attempt to label or insult someone when the one using the term has no better argument. Wanna be taken more seriously? Then argue more maturely and don't resort to personal attacks.
That said, we are done here. Have a nice day
P.S. Debates are intellectual and reasonable arguments. The moment you resort to insulting is the moment you lose, period.
And yet not once in this thread have you contributed to the OP,every single one of your posts in her has been to argue how someone feels in THIER opinion. I Think you need to go have a good day.
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.
So contribute or goUltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
As long as Zenimax is still adding new content, stuff is going to get delayed. Then again, some stuff is just plain difficult as *** to fix. Doesn't mean they stopped trying though. After all, can you PROVE they stopped trying? If not then you cannot adequately accuse them of it. Far as face value is concerned, yes Zenimax tends to be two-faced in which they say one thing and then turn around and say another and for that reason nothing is ascertain anymore, but there is no reason to believe they stopped trying to fix bugs and lag, whether it takes a few months or 10 years.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Since ESO is the only game published by ZOS to date they are one in the same.
I would completely erase the forums. It would increase everyone's enjoyment of the game 100%.
The only change that would come from taking Zenimax out of the picture is the removal of the entire game. Singling out employees to fire is also considered bashing and more likely to get this thread locked. So, once again, it's best anything directed directly at Zenimax not be involved. Besides, they don't have GMs so they cannot be in their game anyway, except as players
Also the forums take nothing away from my enjoyment of the game lol in fact I get people occasionally acting all like OMG IT'S ULTIMAJOE777 THE CREATOR OF THREADS and stuff
Aye to a point, but its also a right of the consumer to point the blame, if somethings incompetent, get rid.
They are only letting themselves down and a lot of of their playerbase, some issues plaguing the game, have been in since the closed betas of 2013 ...
Its simple, they can do their damned job and do whatever is required to make the game right for everyone, e.g, lag free would be amazing.
If I find a company is incompetent I simply stop playing their game. I've quit games with good potential I actually enjoyed because the devs did something with it to ruin it, usually P2W stuff. Same case here: Don't like what the devs are doing? Don't play their game, simple as that. I get people hang on because it's The Elder Scrolls but sometimes you just gotta know when to decide "it's not worth it" if it truly isn't for you.clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
If the forums had a spam folder he would be a heavy hitter in it.
That makes no sense, in more ways than one.
Lol ok, you must be one of these tortoise shell fan bois, who are militantly against any form of feedback about the game, its not a case of me having to prove anything, e.g, they said it would be a lag free megaserver way back in 2013.
Still waiting, apart from periods where there has actually been no lag, its generally ok but with amazing pings over a rock solid connection, all ports open, so its not client based issues, its them.
Again, no offence, but you are a console player, which is a lot easier to code for than for PC, with the myriad of different configurations, and even on console, there is reports of lag.
So hide your head in the sand all you want, the issues exist, so again, its not a case of proving that they are doing or not doing anything, its a case of a almost consisitent level of service since the game launched , for PC anyways, all they done was warp the same flawed engine and megaserver tech over to console players, and funnily enough a lot of issues are the same.
There is nothing wrong with feedback, and if its negative, then it shows that work needs done, and especially if a number of players have ranted from varying platforms over issues, which plague us all, either a lot, or intermittently.
I can see what you are saying, but the issues do exist, they might not exist for you, but for many, it does, and nothing gets done that actually proves to be consistent.
Latency lag exists, it does not matter on the strength of your net speed, or w/e, its their tech, it just cannot handle it.
Your argument lost credibility when you resorted to "fan boi". Feedback is feedback, but hating is hating. If this were a debate, I would've won when you made this comment hands down. It isn't though, so I'll just say have a nice day and walk away knowing you were unable to present a proper point kthxbaiUltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.
in reality WoW is a superior mmo, if you put the team of blizzard on this with the intent of learning from wows mistakes and keeping it eso then eso would be a far better mmo, the zos team just isnt competent
Then go play WoW if you think it's so much better and Zenimax is so incompetent.
Facts speak for itself, and the fan boi usage, is used in conjuncton for those who cant see issues when they exist, and I am not remotely interested whether you accept truthful points or not, you are actually a fan boi, its not hating, its fact.
So walk away and bury your head in the sand all you want, what I said was factual, the games been out for 2 odd years and some issues are still prevalent now as they were at game launch, as the core systems are still crap and cant handle the playerbase, I mean, they got rid of deer thinking it would make a difference to pvp lag.
And no you would not have won any debate, the facts speak for themselves, even on consoles, the same issues that plague the game, plague console players of this flawed yet great game.
Feedback is feedback.
No, the fan boi usage is a cop out people use to attempt to label or insult someone when the one using the term has no better argument. Wanna be taken more seriously? Then argue more maturely and don't resort to personal attacks.
That said, we are done here. Have a nice day
P.S. Debates are intellectual and reasonable arguments. The moment you resort to insulting is the moment you lose, period.
And yet not once in this thread have you contributed to the OP,every single one of your posts in her has been to argue how someone feels in THIER opinion. I Think you need to go have a good day.
This man has saved me from making my own post
Yeah, yeah, you're all in your little Zenimax hate club, I get it. And guess what? I don't care You've honestly said more than you need to here, so par for the course. Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Change the people who are in charge of fixing the lag.
If you only have people who play the game from the same office or area, then what do they know about lag?
They actually play the game outside the office, so I'm sure they know. Also if it were so easy to fix it'd be fixed by now. Sure it sucks and we all want it fixed but harping them about it constantly won't change anything lolEdited by UltimaJoe777 on September 6, 2016 10:46PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
As long as Zenimax is still adding new content, stuff is going to get delayed. Then again, some stuff is just plain difficult as *** to fix. Doesn't mean they stopped trying though. After all, can you PROVE they stopped trying? If not then you cannot adequately accuse them of it. Far as face value is concerned, yes Zenimax tends to be two-faced in which they say one thing and then turn around and say another and for that reason nothing is ascertain anymore, but there is no reason to believe they stopped trying to fix bugs and lag, whether it takes a few months or 10 years.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
Since ESO is the only game published by ZOS to date they are one in the same.
I would completely erase the forums. It would increase everyone's enjoyment of the game 100%.
The only change that would come from taking Zenimax out of the picture is the removal of the entire game. Singling out employees to fire is also considered bashing and more likely to get this thread locked. So, once again, it's best anything directed directly at Zenimax not be involved. Besides, they don't have GMs so they cannot be in their game anyway, except as players
Also the forums take nothing away from my enjoyment of the game lol in fact I get people occasionally acting all like OMG IT'S ULTIMAJOE777 THE CREATOR OF THREADS and stuff
Aye to a point, but its also a right of the consumer to point the blame, if somethings incompetent, get rid.
They are only letting themselves down and a lot of of their playerbase, some issues plaguing the game, have been in since the closed betas of 2013 ...
Its simple, they can do their damned job and do whatever is required to make the game right for everyone, e.g, lag free would be amazing.
If I find a company is incompetent I simply stop playing their game. I've quit games with good potential I actually enjoyed because the devs did something with it to ruin it, usually P2W stuff. Same case here: Don't like what the devs are doing? Don't play their game, simple as that. I get people hang on because it's The Elder Scrolls but sometimes you just gotta know when to decide "it's not worth it" if it truly isn't for you.clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
So they have been saying since game launch on PC , since you are console, you wont have endured it as much as the rest of us.
Stonewalling and lying only goes on for so long before the truth becomes clear, and that is simple, lag will never be fixed, cos they dont want to put the money in to actually make the reality of the lag free megaserver which was promised pre game launch in 2013.
It is called lying and stonewalling, and general misinformation.
I applaud your optimism, but many here saw the writing on the wall a long time ago.
ZoS instead blames everything but themselves, seemingly the blanket answer is reset your router and it must be our rigs, our net connections, which to be fair can account for some issues, but not everything.
Take lag in VmA, a solo instance, theres no excuse.
Maybe you can stop taking what they say on face value, and actually look for results, words are easy, go by actions.
See if you still feel as positive in 2 years time.
If the forums had a spam folder he would be a heavy hitter in it.
That makes no sense, in more ways than one.
Lol ok, you must be one of these tortoise shell fan bois, who are militantly against any form of feedback about the game, its not a case of me having to prove anything, e.g, they said it would be a lag free megaserver way back in 2013.
Still waiting, apart from periods where there has actually been no lag, its generally ok but with amazing pings over a rock solid connection, all ports open, so its not client based issues, its them.
Again, no offence, but you are a console player, which is a lot easier to code for than for PC, with the myriad of different configurations, and even on console, there is reports of lag.
So hide your head in the sand all you want, the issues exist, so again, its not a case of proving that they are doing or not doing anything, its a case of a almost consisitent level of service since the game launched , for PC anyways, all they done was warp the same flawed engine and megaserver tech over to console players, and funnily enough a lot of issues are the same.
There is nothing wrong with feedback, and if its negative, then it shows that work needs done, and especially if a number of players have ranted from varying platforms over issues, which plague us all, either a lot, or intermittently.
I can see what you are saying, but the issues do exist, they might not exist for you, but for many, it does, and nothing gets done that actually proves to be consistent.
Latency lag exists, it does not matter on the strength of your net speed, or w/e, its their tech, it just cannot handle it.
Your argument lost credibility when you resorted to "fan boi". Feedback is feedback, but hating is hating. If this were a debate, I would've won when you made this comment hands down. It isn't though, so I'll just say have a nice day and walk away knowing you were unable to present a proper point kthxbaiUltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
its called new devs, and id put blizzard on this
Then you might as well call it World of Warcraft: Not The Elder Scrolls.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It's his one thing to change, not really open for discussion.
Except it's not in ESO, so it really isn't even possible FOR discussion.
in reality WoW is a superior mmo, if you put the team of blizzard on this with the intent of learning from wows mistakes and keeping it eso then eso would be a far better mmo, the zos team just isnt competent
Then go play WoW if you think it's so much better and Zenimax is so incompetent.
Facts speak for itself, and the fan boi usage, is used in conjuncton for those who cant see issues when they exist, and I am not remotely interested whether you accept truthful points or not, you are actually a fan boi, its not hating, its fact.
So walk away and bury your head in the sand all you want, what I said was factual, the games been out for 2 odd years and some issues are still prevalent now as they were at game launch, as the core systems are still crap and cant handle the playerbase, I mean, they got rid of deer thinking it would make a difference to pvp lag.
And no you would not have won any debate, the facts speak for themselves, even on consoles, the same issues that plague the game, plague console players of this flawed yet great game.
Feedback is feedback.
No, the fan boi usage is a cop out people use to attempt to label or insult someone when the one using the term has no better argument. Wanna be taken more seriously? Then argue more maturely and don't resort to personal attacks.
That said, we are done here. Have a nice day
P.S. Debates are intellectual and reasonable arguments. The moment you resort to insulting is the moment you lose, period.
Again, you are ignoring wide ranging issues that many of the playerbase suffer from, and you ignore them, and keep saying oh give zos time, or w/e, some of us have been here since the very beginning, how much time do you think we should give, even you said yourself, that Zos are two faced, so theres hope for you yet.
Pointing out the issues, is how the issues get fixed, well in most game developers cases, in Zenis case, they just lie and stonewall and a lot of people, mainly newer players just eat their lies.
Believe it or not, I was not insulting you, the truth is not insulting, neither are terms to define the truth.
And as said a few times now, its not a case of a better argument, the facts speak for themselves.
Lag, some bankers needing repeat accessing before finally logging into your bank or guild bank, hell that issue has been in the game since launch on PC, and many other issues.
Its never been a case of banging heads off each other and presenting arguments or the need for proof, the proof is in the game.
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[Deleted User]Soul ShrivenHello everyone,
We noticed that the thread has gotten a bit heated recently. Please be sure to remain civil with one another while discussing this topic, and refrain from labeling others harshly for how they feel about the game. Now if there was one thing I could change, it would be the Skeleton Polymorph making my Nord character shorter when being used 6 -
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✭✭✭ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »Hello everyone,
We noticed that the thread has gotten a bit heated recently. Please be sure to remain civil with one another while discussing this topic, and refrain from labeling others harshly for how they feel about the game. Now if there was one thing I could change, it would be the Skeleton Polymorph making my Nord character shorter when being used
At least you know you're not big boned
...Wait is that bad? Not sure now Edited by UltimaJoe777 on September 6, 2016 11:43PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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[Deleted User]Soul ShrivenUltimaJoe777 wrote: »ZOS_AntonioP wrote: »Hello everyone,
We noticed that the thread has gotten a bit heated recently. Please be sure to remain civil with one another while discussing this topic, and refrain from labeling others harshly for how they feel about the game. Now if there was one thing I could change, it would be the Skeleton Polymorph making my Nord character shorter when being used
At least you know you're not big boned
...Wait is that bad? Not sure now
How the Skeleton Polymorph makes my character feel:
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