Can't Rank Up

Kerberos3 · November 2014

So, I just ran into this issue today. Stuck @VR6 (NA server). Found this thread about it, so I thought I'd add a 'me too' post. Looking forward to finding new hidden features introduced by corrective patch....

NotSo · November 2014

After the fix tomorrow and the xp requirement drops to 1,000,000xp will the xp rollover apply to only the current vr level or apply to all vr levels between now and when update 5 launched (when vr points changed to xp)?

i.e.

currently 1,500,000 (aprox) XP per VR
x 10 VR's (assuming you're vr10)
______________________________________
15,000,000 XP
= 14 VR with 1,000,000 XP surplus after thursday

or, because I'm currently vr8 with around 100,000 XP surplus, would I end up as vr9 with 100,000 XP?

babylon · November 2014

The problem is, after the two last patches we actually lost a bunch of xp. Before the 1.5.3 failed patch I had over 2.4 million xp, or 50% of the VR level out of a total of 5 million xp...after the patch that reset our stats and skillpoints I suddenly had only 700,000xp which was shown as being 50% of the vet level out of the new total of 1.4 million...then after the latest patch (the one that failed to apply) I still had 700,000xp but now it was only 18% of the total (out of 4 million needed).

So...where did my other 1.7 million xp go, and do I get it back?

Before patches:

Last week:

After 1.5.3 failed patch:

Basically, do I have 2.4 million xp on my bar (like I should have and had earned) or do I have only 700,000xp on my bar now?

Or (even worse) when you lower the requirement to 1 million xp will I then only have 500,000xp (being 50% of the level) on my bar?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Enodoc · November 2014

babylon wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Heartcarver wrote: »

Let me amend my question, I mean for the patch to reduce XP needed for level, not for the fix that will be instituted for the current bug. When they drop the level requirements down to 1mil instead of 1.45m per level, will that excess be a applied to our XP to knock us ahead levels...?

Yes, that's correct. Here's how everything is going to work:

When we release patch 1.5.4 (tomorrow), we'll be reducing the amount of XP required to earn a Veteran Rank to 1,000,000 XP. We are also fixing the issue where you are not gaining any Veteran Ranks, even though you've earned enough XP.

If you have 999,999 XP before tomorrow's patch, you'll just need to gain 1 XP to rank up. This is all as expected.

If you have over 1,000,000 XP, you will automatically level up to the correct Veteran Rank, and any additional XP will rollover once 1.5.4 is released. That said, there is a known UI issue where your bar will show you need 4,000,000 XP to gain a rank. This is wrong, and is only a visual error. So, let's say you're VR2 with 2,500,000 XP before we have tomorrow's maintenance. When you log in after patch 1.5.4 is published, you will automatically be VR4 with 500,000 XP toward VR5. However, due to the UI issue, your progress bar will only be 1/8 full. Don't worry, you will still gain the next rank when it reaches 1/4 . This issue will be fixed in our next patch.

Hope that makes sense and helps explain what you can expect!

(edited because math)

The problem is, after the two last patches we actually lost a bunch of xp. Before the 1.5.3 failed patch I had over 2.4 million xp, or 50% of the VR level out of a total of 5 million xp...after the patch that reset our stats and skillpoints I suddenly had only 700,000xp which was shown as being 50% of the vet level out of the new total of 1.4 million...then after the latest patch (the one that failed to apply) I still had 700,000xp but now it was only 18% of the total (out of 4 million needed).

So...where did my other 1.7 million xp go, and do I get it back?

Before patches:

Last week:

After 1.5.3 failed patch:

Basically, do I have 2.4 million xp on my bar (like I should have and had earned) or do I have only 700,000xp on my bar now?

Or (even worse) when you lower the requirement to 1 million xp will I then only have 500,000xp on my bar?

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_GinaBruno

@babylon You had 2.4 million VP, not 2.4 million XP. The VP to XP conversion was not 1-to-1.

Garetth wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Arandear wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno, this is good news about reducing XP, at least in my opinion, but when you said it will be in next patch do you mean as in Update 6 or the Thursday's Fix/Patch?

Thanks

I was wondering the same thing, or indeed whether it'll be Monday (1.5.4) rather than Thursday (1.5.3 part 2). Also if by having a patch on Thursday whether they are still going to patch on Monday as well.

A question for anyone who has said that there's not enough content to gain one Vet Rank per Zone who tried to rank up between 1.5.2 and 1.5.3 - was the value of 1,432,550 working at that time, and you could not get that much XP within one zone, or was it unintentionally (invisibly) set to 4,000,000 already, and that's why you couldn't rank up in one zone? I think it's a very odd coincidence that 4,000,000 is 2.7 times 1,432,550 and it was taking 2 to 3 zones to rank up, which is why I suggested that maybe 4,000,000 had been in the back-end since 1.5.2.
I'd just be interested in knowing whether that theory has any backing. If so, then the proposed change to 1,000,000 would mean that you'd gain a rank about 2/3 the way through a zone, which is on par with the intention that levelling will be faster; if not, then you'd gain a rank after 1.8 zones, which is still under-level for the content and still takes "too long" (content-wise, not time-wise).

Thought I'd add on to this with some numbers:

Under VPs, it took 456,000 VP to get from VR1 to VR2. That's 300 instances of 1520 VP, a common VP reward.
Under XPs, it will take 1,000,000 XP to get from VR1 to VR2. That's 200 instances of 4990 XP, a common XP reward.
This suggests that, following this change, gaining a rank will be 2/3 quicker (content-wise) than it was under VP.

I'm curious where you are getting this information: That's 200 instances of 4990 XP, a common XP reward.

Everything I have see from others is that you barely get that amount of xp from finishing one of Caldwell's main quests let alone other quests which give less than a 1000xp, and everything after much less.

In this post, Jessica Folsom gave a breakdown of how XP is rewarded based on a multiplier applied to the XP granted by a quest. The "Standard" (multiplier =1) XP value from quests at VR 1 is 4990. I'm assuming that since 4990 is the "standard" reward, it is the most common, or that it is at least what quest rewards average out at.

babylon · November 2014

So I guess remaining question is will bar be at 700k or 500k?

NotSo · November 2014

@babylon How many maps did you work through?
I only ask because in the 3 maps I powered through this weekend, I got maybe 900,000xp. So, 2.4 million is basically 9 maps worth of xp (almost all of Cadwell's Silver & Gold).

*edit*
I rescind my question because of what @Enodoc pointed out

babylon · November 2014

ian92415b14_ESO wrote: »

@babylon How many maps did you work through?
I only ask because in the 3 maps I powered through this weekend, I got maybe 900,000xp. So, 2.5 million is basically 9 1/3 maps worth of xp (almost all of Cadwell's Silver & Gold).

I haven't touched anything since the past few patches.

Laerwein_ESO · November 2014

I'm having the same issue. My xp bar is currently showing 1,535,431, which is obviously over the 1.432m I need for the next level. I'm not complaining, just thought maybe I have a little insight that someone else might not have.

My questing partner is currently showing 1,217,823. The thing is, we have done all the same quests, except he has done the werewolf quest and I have not. We were running about 20k xp difference (with me having the lesser xp) and now suddenly, I've got about 300k more xp than him. I'm guessing that for some reason when they changed the vet points vs xp, something happened so that I'm showing way more xp than I should have.

It's just a little annoying that I get the lvl up splash across the screen after every kill and then it goes back to my previous lvl. If we get to the point where he actually lvls up and I don't, then I might complain.

5 hours later.......
My questing partner now has enough xp to lvl up but he's still showing as VR9 with more than enough xp to be VR10. Now I'm getting a little concerned. Hopefully, tomorrow will fix it for both of us.

Natjur · November 2014

Anywhere we can see how much exp we have stored pasted V14 (that is getting converted into Champion points so time in the future?

Hazadus76 · November 2014

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This is wrong, and is only a visual error.

This is not only a visual error if I'm not receiving my skill and attribute points.

ZOS_GinaBruno · November 2014

Hazadus76 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This is wrong, and is only a visual error.

This is not only a visual error if I'm not receiving my skill and attribute points.

You will still receive your skill and attribute points when you level up. The only thing that won't be appearing properly is progression on your XP bar.

ZOS_GaryA · November 2014

Hey there @Hazadus76,

You will receive you skills and attribute points when you gain your next experience point after the patch. From there, the experience bar will say you need 4 million EXP to level up, but this is a visual issue. You will hit your next veteran rank at 1 million XP, or when the bar reaches approximately 25%.

Hazadus76 · November 2014

Thank you for answering so quickly. Greatly appreciated!

babylon · November 2014

So the addons reporting xp was set to 4 million yesterday really were correct, and ZOS actually set the xp to 4 million.

Because today those same addons are correctly reporting xp is set to 1 million to rank up, and they haven't been updated since today's patch.

So yesterday the game's default xp bar was a visual error when it said xp was set to 1.4 million, but our addons were correctly reporting we all needed 4 million xp to level. And today the game's default xp bar is still a visual error, yet our addons again, are correctly reporting xp required.

Hanzus · November 2014

I'm V2, was half way to V3, I come on tonight and see that I am down to less then a quarter full on my V2 xp bar

, did we have a roll back or something?

This totally bites, its so darn hard to get xp as it is, let alone mysteriously losing a big chunk of it $:\$

Enodoc · November 2014

Hanzus wrote: »

I'm V2, was half way to V3, I come on tonight and see that I am down to less then a quarter full on my V2 xp bar , did we have a roll back or something?

This totally bites, its so darn hard to get xp as it is, let alone mysteriously losing a big chunk of it $:\$

@Hanzus It's a known bug reported in the patch notes. The bar shows that you need 4 million, but you actually only need 1 million and will rank up when the bar is 1/4 full.

Hanzus · November 2014

Enodoc, Thanks so much for the info! , sadly, I didn't see that in the patch notes.

Now lets hope the fix for this comes soon

Razour · November 2014

Skill XP still seems to be a problem post 1.5.4

cyberjanet · May 2017

@ZOS_GinaBruno This thread is from 2014 and relates to Veteran ranks. What happens when a new character is just not levelling properly (between levels 1-10)? I have done a post in bug reports but nobody from ZOS has responded and it's impossible to submit a ticket about this. Essentially, one of my guildies has done two dungeons, a dolmen, a delve (part of the Friend in Need quest) and ALL OF THE MAIN STORY QUESTS up to Chapter 3.5: The Tharn speaks. But he's level 10. All those quests and dolmens, and still level 10. It doesn't make sense.

He made another character who also did a pile of main story quests, I think up to chapter 2.0, but was kinda stuck on level 6 or 7, just making no progress.
These characters are all wearing full gear with training traits that I crafted. We are playing on PC on the EU server.

If I read what you said, he is earning the XP still, and just needs to actually roll over into a new level with skill points and then the problem will fix itself? I am hoping this is the case. I played with him, and he was about 50% through his level bar. We did two dolmens and a delve, and he went up to 72% of his level bar. 6901/9500 XP. Then we did one more dolmen, and his character levelled quite dramatically, which kinda ties in with my take on what you said.

I can try a similar tactic with his character that is stuck on level 10. But how can he contact someone in support for a proper look at this? It has really taken some coaxing to get him into the game and I'd hate him to wander off because he just can't level in a satisfying way.

ZOS_Bill · May 2017

We've closed this thread as it is two years old and contains outdated information. You are welcome to start a new thread on this subject however.