Septima Tharn bug post 1.4.4

Vylas
Vylas
Soul Shriven
While fighting Septima Tharn at VR3, I finish killing the first wave of adds. Septima then stands on top of the pillar and is un-attackable. She just stands there. I have a constant 1 damage per second dot ticking on me that makes it impossible to leave combat. I have tried reloading the UI, relogging, everything I can think of to fix this issue. Nothing works. Occasionally, She comes down from the pillar only to go invisible when she attempts to jump to the next pillar for the second wave of adds. Again, I cannot attack her and she does not do anything while invisible. I am literally stuck in The Far Shores until this is fixed.

UPDATE: After waiting a while before relogging again, when I entered the game I was back outside the hall of heroes. I had to run all the way back through the dungeon(without having to redo quests for the spirits) and was able to finally finish killing Septima.
Edited by Vylas on September 26, 2014 8:28AM
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  • ZOS_GaryA
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    Hey there @Vylas,

    We're glad to hear that you were able to progress despite the oddities that you experienced. Your patience and persistence are much appreciated!

    If anyone else experiences this issue, please let us know in this thread and we'll be happy to take a further look into it.
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  • Mitrenga
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    I experienced the exact same issue. Force quit and abandoning the quest did not work. However, if you group up whit a player and enter Septima's zone, you can kill her without a glitch.
  • Santus
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    I experienced the exact same situation. The only difference is that after I logged off and the instance was reset (and I teleported outside), I didn't go back for a second try. There is definitely a problem there. Should I wait for a fix or try again?
  • ZOS_GaryA
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    Hey there @Santus,

    If you waited more than 10 minutes before logging back in, the instance will reset and you'll be forced outside. Give a shot to entering again and let us know if an instance reset fixes the issue.

    Also, do you folks happen to remember anything special about the fight that might have caused the issue? Were the adds kited extremely far away, do you have a summoned creature that might said "1v1 me m8" to one of the mobs in a corner somewhere, any abilities that may have pushed a mob out of bounds, etc? The more info we have, the better. Thanks for your patience!
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  • Santus
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    Thanks for the prompt answer @ZOS_GaryA‌ .
    In my case since I was unable to clear out all the Ghost soldiers without dying, I tried a kitting approach to succeed, taking advantage of the deep water around the place of the battle.
    I will give it another shot tonight and write back.
    PS: I was VR10 at the time of the first effort. I am VR12 now
  • Mitrenga
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    ZOS_GaryA wrote: »
    Hey there @Santus,

    If you waited more than 10 minutes before logging back in, the instance will reset and you'll be forced outside. Give a shot to entering again and let us know if an instance reset fixes the issue.

    Also, do you folks happen to remember anything special about the fight that might have caused the issue? Were the adds kited extremely far away, do you have a summoned creature that might said "1v1 me m8" to one of the mobs in a corner somewhere, any abilities that may have pushed a mob out of bounds, etc? The more info we have, the better. Thanks for your patience!

    In my case, the adds did now even spawn. Septima was teleporting herself up onto a pillar and she was spawning no adds. She was targettable, however not taking any damage. I tried siege equipment to target the top of the pillar but no luck :)

    By the way, she was not attacking to me from the pillar. My char was a NB, I did not spawn anything.
  • Santus
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    Hello again @ZOS_GaryA‌
    I re-tried the quest like I said and this time the following happened.

    I didn't kite the mobs this time. Instead I held my ground on the round pavement where the battle takes place.

    I cleared the first round of mobs and Septime came down from the Pilar and the battle continued but she killed me. I resurrected with a crystal (E) on the spot and started the fight again with the now re-set septima. I clear the first round of ghost mobs again but this time Septime does not come down even though I held my ground again!

    I force quit and reset the instance.

    After that I fought Septima and the mobs by holding my ground again and when I was dying (died twice) I used the shrine (R) to resurrect instead of a crystal and ran back to the fight which this time completed normally.

    I do not know if it was the reset or the fact that I was using the shrine instead of a crystal to resurrect but it worked. Clearly though the quest could use some polishing because neither kitting or resurrecting via crystals should be an issue, right?

    Hope this helps, cheers
    Edited by Santus on October 2, 2014 3:39PM
  • Sylinias
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    Ambush IV
    Swallow Soul IV
    Degeneration IV
    Blood Craze IV
    Rapid Strikes IV
    Soul Tether IV Ultimate

    I Ambush Septima, pop ST, SS, Degen, then get a couple of RS and BC's in before she flees to the top of the pillar.

    She then calls the Ghost army.

    I jump to the ghost mobs on ambush, get my ultimate up, pop ST in the group, and continue drain and stab rotation. Both groups take about 4 mins.

    Then she gets stuck and won't come off the pillar and I'm SIC and have to do a hard logout to get back in.
  • rwelshmub17_ESO
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    I have the same issue playing a lvl 41 NB. I kill all the mobs tried both kiting and DW result the same. Septima on a piller. I can target her butno damage to her. The only way to break this was to quit. I went back and still the same.

  • Teutobald
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    Same here. After killing the Ghost-Army Septima Tharn stands on top of the pillar and is doing nothing.
    Force quit ... killing the Ghost-Army again ... same thing.
  • Teutobald
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    Santus wrote: »
    I force quit and reset the instance.

    After that I fought Septima and the mobs by holding my ground again and when I was dying (died twice) I used the shrine (R) to resurrect instead of a crystal and ran back to the fight which this time completed normally.
    Don´t work either. Doesn´t make a difference to kill the ghost-army in the center, shrine etc.

    Can´t go on with the game, because it is the end of the main quest Cadwells Silver.
  • ZOS_GaryA
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    Hey there everyone,

    Thanks for providing this extra information. When you run into these issues in-game, please ensure that you also use the /bug command to create a bug report. This contains the information you provide us in your description, as well as information such as your character's location, completed and active quests, etc.
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  • AlnilamE
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    I had the same issue.

    VR6 NB

    First try:
    opened by sniping her from behind a few times, which got her health down enough that she jumped on the first pillar and stayed there.
    I filed a bug report and had to force-quit the game to be able to continue.

    Second and third tries:
    Tried a different opening, she jumped on the pillars and spawned the adds. I take out all adds but 4-5 and die. She resets, but the adds remain. I revive and kill the remaining adds and work on her again. When her health goes down, she jumps back on pillar and doesn't spawn adds.

    Give up for the time being. Get an e-mail back from CS with some advice (don't hit her too hard at first, kill remaining adds inside the pillar area) and go back to it a few days later with two friends, making sure we killed the final adds inside the pillar area and it worked.
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  • bugbearrwb17_ESO2
    I am having the issue with Septima camping on top of the pillar and not coming back down.
    NB, so no pets.
    No extreme kiting, I killed the ghosts off inside the square pretty much.
    Damn annoying.
    Have to Alt-F4 out and relog.
    Will try again after sleep.
  • Icy
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    @ZOS_GaryA‌

    Me too, and 3 /bug reported.

    VR9 NB

    I kill her to 65% then she jumps to the pillar and spawns adds. I AOE dual wield down all the adds in the square (no kiting) and she still refuses to come down.

    Tried reloadui, relogging, killing myself by jumping off the cliff multiple times but no luck. Will wait till tomorrow to see if an instance reset works.

    Edit:

    So, is everyone reporting this issue a NB?
    Edited by Icy on October 13, 2014 11:01AM
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  • bellanca6561n
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    I too experienced it two weeks ago, filed a report, and filed a follow-up when it finally worked.

    Well...mostly I filed the second one because I felt badly that my first was so...I wasn't happy ;)

    Fortunately several other players happened to be doing that quest when I was and I appeared to be the only one experiencing the problem on that occasion. It's rather more upsetting when a whole bunch of folks are stuck, as was the case with Firebrand Keep after one of the patches.
  • Wolfshade
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    I had this problem and reported it,too. NB (v6/v7)

    All what here is written happened to me. One time she stopped doing anything after she trapped in "Manifestation of Terror". She just stand there, doesn`t move/react/take damage.

    Yesterday i can beat her, i don`t used to attack her from stealth (Cloak, Ambush), and switched some skills. Maybe this problem appears with stealth-attacks or some skills.
    This comment is awesome!

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  • bellanca6561n
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    The trigger for me was one I'd experienced at other times: the host thinks I died. My client never got the message.

    I used to get this a lot....well....I used to die a lot too. The NPCs all go back to their business (odd how little concern they show for their dead comrades I managed to kill before my demise). But on my computer I am very much alive. Can't do anything to the baddies though.

    Relog to a dead me. Rez and carry on.

    Probably not related in this case though. Couldn't relog anyway. It said I was still in combat thus I couldn't. Killed the client and restarted it but had to leave the instance in this case to get it work....oh, and not die.
    Edited by bellanca6561n on October 13, 2014 12:24PM
  • ZOS_GaryA
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    Hey there everyone,

    Thanks so much for providing all of the additional information in this thread, it's a huge help. This bug will be fixed in a future patch, though we don't have an ETA on when the fix will hit the live server. Thanks for your patience with this issue!
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  • Teutobald
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    Icy wrote: »
    So, is everyone reporting this issue a NB?
    I´m a Nightblade yes.

  • ZOS_GaryA
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    Hey there everyone,

    A fix for the issue where Septima Tharn became stuck on top of the pillar went into today's patch. Please give a try to the quest again and let us know if you can complete it. Thanks for your patience!
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  • Teutobald
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    ZOS_GaryA wrote: »
    Hey there everyone,
    A fix for the issue where Septima Tharn became stuck on top of the pillar went into today's patch.
    Great, I'll try it.
  • Icy
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    ZOS_GaryA wrote: »
    Hey there everyone,

    A fix for the issue where Septima Tharn became stuck on top of the pillar went into today's patch. Please give a try to the quest again and let us know if you can complete it. Thanks for your patience!
    Yay! Thank you so much! It worked this time around. All good from my point of view.
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  • starkerealm
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    Still bugged. I died to the adds the first time. Came back in, Septima didn't deign to return to the fight, so I'm just stuck there, unable to do anything but quit out of the game.
  • ZOS_GaryA
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    Hey there @starkerealm,

    If you leave the area for 10 minutes, the area will reset. Give a shot to the quest after that and let us know if you're able to complete it!
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  • starkerealm
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    @ZOS_GaryA‌, it did. I actually finished it ~30 minutes after I posted that. Went back in and burned a bunch of Health/Stam/Magicka potions and popped a consummate honey brittle, and stood my ground.

    Getting waxed four or five times, followed by her just standing up there was infuriating and frustrating though.
  • ZOS_GaryA
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    @starkerealm, the victory must have been so satisfying though! Grats on sticking it out and taking her down. The Covenant is proud. o7

    EDIT:
    o7 is meant to look like a little dude saluting.
    Edited by ZOS_GaryA on October 26, 2014 2:18PM
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  • starkerealm
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    @ZOS_GaryA‌ ...but, I'm pact... not that Emeric could ever tell.

    Actually, I'll be honest, with this particular fight, because of how the mechanics work, taking her out wasn't really satisfying. It felt more like brute forcing a puzzle.

    Waxing the mammoth, and becoming a werewolf at level 12... not that was satisfying... maybe my zero point is seriously screwed up now. :\
  • ZOS_GaryA
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    @starkerealm Waxing a mammoth would take a lot of work. They have tons of fur.

    Ba-dum-pshhhh

    Joking aside, we'd love to hear your feedback on how to make the fight more satisfying! If you type /feedback in the chat box, you can provide your thoughts on how we can make Septima's fight more exciting. Our devs read each and every feedback ticket and we'd love to hear your thoughts.

    And your initial allegiance remains a secret, so Emeric is still beyond grateful!

    EDIT: Some words
    Edited by ZOS_GaryA on October 26, 2014 3:35PM
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  • radiostar
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    It is still bugged. Have to kill the game b/c it won't let you log in combat.
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