Atleast currently it provides the only way to lvl up your Undaunted Guild xp.

Darkstorn42 wrote: »

Yep, I agree. I remember reading something about this somewhere. They are working on ideas but haven't said anything specific. If someone can find a link can you please post it? (I think it was in the Road Ahead post a week ago)

We have lots more planned for ESO beyond the above—Update 3 is scheduled to arrive sometime in July. It will focus on player customization systems like armor dyeing, guild insignias and tabards, and it will also be the start of the rework of our delves (smaller dungeons) to make them much larger and give them more worth exploring.

http://dulfy.net/2014/06/04/eso-june-4-the-road-ahead/

dungeons should reward the best gear
too bad the market is already ruined by gear from anomaly farm.

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

What currently dungeons offer:

- There are achievements for most dungeons as well as mob types slain, and it sounds like soon, achievements will give dye colors.
- The mobs drop a little loot and some gold.
- Dungeons aren't quests, which mean you can group up and run them just fine (unlike quests, which phase you).
- Running dungeons builds toward Undaunted guild levels.

What dungeons could offer:
- Complete every achievement, get a new emote of you walking away from explosions for bragging rights.
- Earn a companion that carries a torch around for you.
- Earn a companion from the Undaunted who fights with you and can be called at will (though not controlled and not in Cyrodiil).
- Earn access to a new type of armor motiff for each factions 'dungeon delver' achievement, giving us Ebony, Glass and Dwemer style options.
- Earn points toward learning new weapon and armor traits which allow would be unique from the current crafted/looted sets.
- Earn new housing options.
- Access to unique crafting stations at the end of the dungeon which provide special set stats.

What I personally don't want to see offered:
- Better gear drops.
- More gold drops.
- Token to buy new gear.
- Anything which might take the crafter further out of the loop or support another gear-grind game.

Its a really nice idea and I agree with most of it.
But how about useing tokens which then could be exchenged for houseing options, new traits and stuff. As long as Zeni wouldnt put tokens to game shop it could be nice idea.

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

Domperidon wrote: »

ruze84b14_ESO wrote: »

What currently dungeons offer:

- There are achievements for most dungeons as well as mob types slain, and it sounds like soon, achievements will give dye colors.
- The mobs drop a little loot and some gold.
- Dungeons aren't quests, which mean you can group up and run them just fine (unlike quests, which phase you).
- Running dungeons builds toward Undaunted guild levels.

What dungeons could offer:
- Complete every achievement, get a new emote of you walking away from explosions for bragging rights.
- Earn a companion that carries a torch around for you.
- Earn a companion from the Undaunted who fights with you and can be called at will (though not controlled and not in Cyrodiil).
- Earn access to a new type of armor motiff for each factions 'dungeon delver' achievement, giving us Ebony, Glass and Dwemer style options.
- Earn points toward learning new weapon and armor traits which allow would be unique from the current crafted/looted sets.
- Earn new housing options.
- Access to unique crafting stations at the end of the dungeon which provide special set stats.

What I personally don't want to see offered:
- Better gear drops.
- More gold drops.
- Token to buy new gear.
- Anything which might take the crafter further out of the loop or support another gear-grind game.

Its a really nice idea and I agree with most of it.
But how about useing tokens which then could be exchenged for houseing options, new traits and stuff. As long as Zeni wouldnt put tokens to game shop it could be nice idea.

I'm not against tokens per se (though I do dislike having too many forms of currency), but I don't like the grind mentality they are based on.

Run this dungeon 300 times to get enough tokens. Sure, loot doesn't work much differently (only we're hoping for that random drop).

I don't personally enjoy running content more than once, every now and then. AI is procedural, which means it's predictable, and the fights end up becoming VERY boring. What is a fun experience becomes a dull one the third, fourth, or 100th time you run it.

Then you start customizing your character to focus only on speed runs (instead of experiencing the content at your preferred pace), so you can earn enough tokens to get that thing you want.

Sure, that's content generation, right there. Gerbils on a treadmill. And I hate that type of content. Would rather get a reward for killing a boss so quickly, or performing some ridiculously hard side mission, or fighting some mob that is almost unbeatable, etc, etc.

It'd be nice if we could leave the multiple forms of currency and grindfests to other games. The quoted portion is absolutely correct. I recall having to change and respec all 16 of my characters from another game to meet the meta grind fest for tokens. And it wasn't fun overall. Had a great time hitting record fast completion times. But running the same thing over and over every playing session was maddening. Not to mention that my streamlined characters were now unfit to run other content with that I actually liked.

Seems like 4 man dungeons have a problem where the incentive to run them more than once doesn't exist. In this game I have 3 active characters. I felt bad that people were spamming chat or sending me whispers asking my healing type or my tank to help them run stuff in Stormhaven/Rivenspire/Bankorai. But there is no gain involved in doing so. After running it once, there is literally nothing to be had for running it again. So those folks were out of luck.

Design like this does not encourage grouping in my opinion. It actually discourages it. What about adjusting the xp given for running the dungeons past the first? I know that in my case, and other players I've met, it would be enough to at least provide some incentive for repeating a dungeon delve.