Maintenance for the week of February 23:
· [COMPLETE] NA megaservers for maintenance – February 23, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)
· [COMPLETE] EU megaservers for maintenance – February 23, 9:00 UTC (4:00AM EST) - 17:00 UTC (12:00PM EST)
· [COMPLETE] ESO Store and Account System for maintenance – February 23, 4:00AM EST (9:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EST (17:00 UTC)

Eventually, I will quit

  • Allyah
    Allyah
    ✭✭✭
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.
    Explain.

    Look up "tautology."
    Will I find
    tautology: something useless
    ?

    If not, you should probably explain what you meant.
  • Phazzle
    Phazzle
    ✭✭✭
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.
    Explain.

    Look up "tautology."
    Will I find
    tautology: something useless
    ?

    If not, you should probably explain what you meant.

    I know what I'm talking about. If you can't figure it out with the abundant resources at your disposal then there is nothing that I can do to help you. But please, keep bumping my thread. Thanks!
    ESO Traveler
    1. Helping you get the most out of ESO!
    2. Veteran Ranking Guide
    3. Leveling Guide
  • ers101284b14_ESO
    ers101284b14_ESO
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.
    Explain.

    Look up "tautology."
    Will I find
    tautology: something useless
    ?

    If not, you should probably explain what you meant.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tautology
  • GreySix
    GreySix
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.
    Explain.

    Look up "tautology."
    Will I find
    tautology: something useless
    ?

    If not, you should probably explain what you meant.

    I know what I'm talking about. If you can't figure it out with the abundant resources at your disposal then there is nothing that I can do to help you. But please, keep bumping my thread. Thanks!
    Keep in mind that many who post here don't have English as a native language, so the poster may genuinely not understand what point you're attempting to make.
    Crotchety Old Man Guild

    "Hey you, get off my lawn!"
  • ThisOnePosts
    ThisOnePosts
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Save your over-dramatic rants for your personal blog and facebook status updates. This is General Discussion, not Customer Support. What you need to do, is start using /feedback /bug etc... also make threads in the appropriate areas of the forums --- including PTS since you bet Devs will be looking there. This is not constructive, it is the same crap in a different packaging that the general discussion is littered with and really Mods need to clean it up as it belongs in the Customer Support section --- or they need to make a new section called Suggestions/Complaints etc..
    Edited by ThisOnePosts on June 11, 2014 8:22PM
  • Phazzle
    Phazzle
    ✭✭✭
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.
    Explain.

    Look up "tautology."
    Will I find
    tautology: something useless
    ?

    If not, you should probably explain what you meant.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tautology

    Bam! #1

    Being a winner means you're a winner.

    Thanks for clearing that up.
    ESO Traveler
    1. Helping you get the most out of ESO!
    2. Veteran Ranking Guide
    3. Leveling Guide
  • Phazzle
    Phazzle
    ✭✭✭
    GreySix wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.
    Explain.

    Look up "tautology."
    Will I find
    tautology: something useless
    ?

    If not, you should probably explain what you meant.

    I know what I'm talking about. If you can't figure it out with the abundant resources at your disposal then there is nothing that I can do to help you. But please, keep bumping my thread. Thanks!
    Keep in mind that many who post here don't have English as a native language, so the poster may genuinely not understand what point you're attempting to make.

    I checked his recent posts. He's fluent.
    ESO Traveler
    1. Helping you get the most out of ESO!
    2. Veteran Ranking Guide
    3. Leveling Guide
  • Allyah
    Allyah
    ✭✭✭
    @Phazzle‌
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.
    Explain.

    Look up "tautology."
    Will I find
    tautology: something useless
    ?

    If not, you should probably explain what you meant.

    I know what I'm talking about. If you can't figure it out with the abundant resources at your disposal then there is nothing that I can do to help you. But please, keep bumping my thread. Thanks!
    So your argument is that you know what you are talking about but you won't explain yourself. Gotcha.

    In any case, why so serious?

    @ers101284b14_ESO‌
    Simplification of a word at its worst. Also, not the only definition.

    @GreySix‌
    Thank you for the attempted defense but really I was just asking him to explain why he thought tautologies are useless. Perhaps I asked too much of him.
  • Phazzle
    Phazzle
    ✭✭✭
    Allyah wrote: »
    @Phazzle‌
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.
    Explain.

    Look up "tautology."
    Will I find
    tautology: something useless
    ?

    If not, you should probably explain what you meant.

    I know what I'm talking about. If you can't figure it out with the abundant resources at your disposal then there is nothing that I can do to help you. But please, keep bumping my thread. Thanks!
    So your argument is that you know what you are talking about but you won't explain yourself. Gotcha.

    In any case, why so serious?

    @ers101284b14_ESO‌
    Simplification of a word at its worst. Also, not the only definition.

    @GreySix‌
    Thank you for the attempted defense but really I was just asking him to explain why he thought tautologies are useless. Perhaps I asked too much of him.

    If you wanted to have a discussion about the usefulness of tautologies then you should have framed your comment as a discussion about the usefulness of tautologies. Due to your brevity I assumed that you misunderstood the word, or that you were simply trolling me, imagine that?

    It is well within my capabilities to explain why the phrase "most useless thread is useless," is useless. I meant that it was useless in the sense that the tautology employed was intended to be pithy but didn't even qualify as smarmy, and was certainly not original or valuable. I suppose it depends on what your definition of useless is.

    Do you think tautologies are especially useful?
    Edited by Phazzle on June 11, 2014 8:33PM
    ESO Traveler
    1. Helping you get the most out of ESO!
    2. Veteran Ranking Guide
    3. Leveling Guide
  • WraithAzraiel
    WraithAzraiel
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I for one hope they got a little ground of thinkers locked in a room trying to figure out how to implement a BETTER Veteran system.

    This whole - "reincarnation" shenanigans where it forces you to the next factions area without so much as an inkling of a reason or good bit of storytelling behind it has got to go.
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

    "There's no such thing as overkill..."

    "No problem on the face of the Earth exists what can't be fixed with the proper application of enough duct tape and 550 cord."

    P2PBetaTesters
    #Tamriel_BETA_Team
    #BETA_TESTER4LYF
    DominionMasterRace
    #GOAHEADTHEYGOTCANDY
    #SEEMSLEGIT
  • Phazzle
    Phazzle
    ✭✭✭
    Save your over-dramatic rants for your personal blog and facebook status updates. This is General Discussion, not Customer Support. What you need to do, is start using /feedback /bug etc... also make threads in the appropriate areas of the forums --- including PTS since you bet Devs will be looking there. This is not constructive, it is the same crap in a different packaging that the general discussion is littered with and really Mods need to clean it up as it belongs in the Customer Support section --- or they need to make a new section called Suggestions/Complaints etc..

    Sheesh, what a day. Yeah, I've done all those things. So a thread about my experience with the game doesn't belong in the 'general' section? What does belong in the 'general' section? Be 'specific.'
    Edited by Phazzle on June 11, 2014 8:37PM
    ESO Traveler
    1. Helping you get the most out of ESO!
    2. Veteran Ranking Guide
    3. Leveling Guide
  • WraithAzraiel
    WraithAzraiel
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    GreySix wrote: »
    Keep in mind that many who post here don't have English as a native language, so the poster may genuinely not understand what point you're attempting to make.

    From their posts, looks like they got a pretty good handle on the language.
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

    "There's no such thing as overkill..."

    "No problem on the face of the Earth exists what can't be fixed with the proper application of enough duct tape and 550 cord."

    P2PBetaTesters
    #Tamriel_BETA_Team
    #BETA_TESTER4LYF
    DominionMasterRace
    #GOAHEADTHEYGOTCANDY
    #SEEMSLEGIT
  • Allyah
    Allyah
    ✭✭✭
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    @Phazzle‌
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.
    Explain.

    Look up "tautology."
    Will I find
    tautology: something useless
    ?

    If not, you should probably explain what you meant.

    I know what I'm talking about. If you can't figure it out with the abundant resources at your disposal then there is nothing that I can do to help you. But please, keep bumping my thread. Thanks!
    So your argument is that you know what you are talking about but you won't explain yourself. Gotcha.

    In any case, why so serious?
    If you wanted to have a discussion about the usefulness of tautologies then you should have framed your comment as a discussion about the usefulness of tautologies. Due to your brevity I assumed that you misunderstood the word, or that you were simply trolling me, imagine that?

    It is well within my capabilities to explain why the phrase "most useless thread is useless," is useless. I meant that it was useless in the sense that the tautology employed was intended to be pithy but didn't even qualify as smarmy, and was certainly not original or valuable. I suppose it depends on what your definition of useless is.

    Do you think tautologies are especially useful?
    I wasn't trolling or misunderstanding but why you might have thought so is fair.

    I'm inclined to agree that the tautology you called useless was useless but not that they are all useless. To be clear, which definition and/or structure (grammatical, logical, etc.) of tautology are you using?
    Edited by Allyah on June 11, 2014 8:45PM
  • Gedalya
    Gedalya
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    In b4 Good-Bye thread closed.
    Tear-with-good-Bye-.jpeg
    Edited by Gedalya on June 11, 2014 8:47PM
    Baskin Robbins always finds out.

    Check out my ESO name generator: eso.tamriel.org
  • Allyah
    Allyah
    ✭✭✭
    GreySix wrote: »
    Keep in mind that many who post here don't have English as a native language, so the poster may genuinely not understand what point you're attempting to make.

    From their posts, looks like they got a pretty good handle on the language.
    Um... thanks?
  • Phazzle
    Phazzle
    ✭✭✭
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    @Phazzle‌
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Allyah wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.
    Explain.

    Look up "tautology."
    Will I find
    tautology: something useless
    ?

    If not, you should probably explain what you meant.

    I know what I'm talking about. If you can't figure it out with the abundant resources at your disposal then there is nothing that I can do to help you. But please, keep bumping my thread. Thanks!
    So your argument is that you know what you are talking about but you won't explain yourself. Gotcha.

    In any case, why so serious?
    If you wanted to have a discussion about the usefulness of tautologies then you should have framed your comment as a discussion about the usefulness of tautologies. Due to your brevity I assumed that you misunderstood the word, or that you were simply trolling me, imagine that?

    It is well within my capabilities to explain why the phrase "most useless thread is useless," is useless. I meant that it was useless in the sense that the tautology employed was intended to be pithy but didn't even qualify as smarmy, and was certainly not original or valuable. I suppose it depends on what your definition of useless is.

    Do you think tautologies are especially useful?
    I wasn't trolling or misunderstanding but why you might have thought so is fair.

    I'm inclined to agree that the tautology you called useless was useless but not that they are all useless. To be clear, which definition and/or structure (grammatical, logical, etc.) of tautology are you using?

    Grammatical, in that it restates the same thing twice. You see! That right there is a tautology! It should read "Grammatical because it states the same thing twice." Ok?
    Edited by Phazzle on June 11, 2014 8:55PM
    ESO Traveler
    1. Helping you get the most out of ESO!
    2. Veteran Ranking Guide
    3. Leveling Guide
  • WraithAzraiel
    WraithAzraiel
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Allyah wrote: »
    GreySix wrote: »
    Keep in mind that many who post here don't have English as a native language, so the poster may genuinely not understand what point you're attempting to make.

    From their posts, looks like they got a pretty good handle on the language.
    Um... thanks?

    Any time, keep on keepin' on, killer! Life's a garden, plow it! Or something like that
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

    "There's no such thing as overkill..."

    "No problem on the face of the Earth exists what can't be fixed with the proper application of enough duct tape and 550 cord."

    P2PBetaTesters
    #Tamriel_BETA_Team
    #BETA_TESTER4LYF
    DominionMasterRace
    #GOAHEADTHEYGOTCANDY
    #SEEMSLEGIT
  • Huckdabuck
    Huckdabuck
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.

    So did you just get done with that intro to Philosophy class a couple of weeks ago? Bet you feel awesome about being able to actually use that word in a sentence!
    Texashighelf - VR16 Sorcerer EP NA - FILTHY BARBARIAN
    Texasimperial - VR16 Dragonknight EP NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas'Imperial - VR16 Dragonknight DC NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas-Imperial - VR16 Templar DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Highelf - VR16 Sorcerer DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Imperial - VR16 Nightblade DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    It's a very grey area.
  • magickats242cub18_ESO
    Eventually, this thread will be closed.
  • GreySix
    GreySix
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eventually, this thread will be closed.
    Not necessarily. It could be sunk instead.
    Crotchety Old Man Guild

    "Hey you, get off my lawn!"
  • Phazzle
    Phazzle
    ✭✭✭
    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.

    So did you just get done with that intro to Philosophy class a couple of weeks ago? Bet you feel awesome about being able to actually use that word in a sentence!

    Oh, another one. I just got through explaining exactly why grammatical tautologies are useless.

    Here's another example. "useless people like you are useless," vs. "you are useless." Which is the more useful phrase. If you answer one or the other, you're wrong.
    Edited by Phazzle on June 11, 2014 9:10PM
    ESO Traveler
    1. Helping you get the most out of ESO!
    2. Veteran Ranking Guide
    3. Leveling Guide
  • magickats242cub18_ESO
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.

    So did you just get done with that intro to Philosophy class a couple of weeks ago? Bet you feel awesome about being able to actually use that word in a sentence!

    Oh, another one. I just got through explaining exactly why grammatical tautologies are useless.

    You might also want to add a few ESO words to make this conversation on topic, according to the forum rules. Use plump rodent toes.

    I love plump rodent toes, they are so chewy and crunchy at the same time.
  • Phazzle
    Phazzle
    ✭✭✭
    Eventually, this thread will be closed.

    Why should it be? I didn't curse in my op, or threaten anybody. I tried, as best as possible to communicate my feelings about my experience, including how much I enjoy ESO despite its flaws. And yet, people are getting hostile and nit picking me to death. It's cool. I can handle it. The fact that no one has actually offered a cogent counter-point is telling. Am I over-reacting? If so, how and why?
    ESO Traveler
    1. Helping you get the most out of ESO!
    2. Veteran Ranking Guide
    3. Leveling Guide
  • Evergnar
    Evergnar
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    It wouldn't surprise me if they've had something in the works. The last several weeks we've seen changes to a bunch of place holders.
    Edited by Evergnar on June 11, 2014 9:48PM
  • magickats242cub18_ESO
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Eventually, this thread will be closed.

    Why should it be? I didn't curse in my op, or threaten anybody. I tried, as best as possible to communicate my feelings about my experience, including how much I enjoy ESO despite its flaws. And yet, people are getting hostile and nit picking me to death. It's cool. I can handle it. The fact that no one has actually offered a cogent counter-point is telling. Am I over-reacting? If so, how and why?

    It's no so much about your original post, but about the derailment of the original topic. Lets steer it back to your initial intent, and it will keep it from getting closed because it was no longer constructive. Just trying to help, is all.
  • Phazzle
    Phazzle
    ✭✭✭
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Huckdabuck wrote: »
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Most useless thread is useless.

    Tautologies are useless.

    So did you just get done with that intro to Philosophy class a couple of weeks ago? Bet you feel awesome about being able to actually use that word in a sentence!

    Oh, another one. I just got through explaining exactly why grammatical tautologies are useless.

    You might also want to add a few ESO words to make this conversation on topic, according to the forum rules. Use plump rodent toes.

    I love plump rodent toes, they are so chewy and crunchy at the same time.

    What? Quoting one of their quests isn't enough? ;)
    Edited by Phazzle on June 11, 2014 9:19PM
    ESO Traveler
    1. Helping you get the most out of ESO!
    2. Veteran Ranking Guide
    3. Leveling Guide
  • Nox_Aeterna
    Nox_Aeterna
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    OP ESO is full of bugs , that is just the way it is.

    I will probably not play for another week , because they broke another one of the skills i like to use and thus playing becomes annoying , it happens more than it should in this game.

    Still , i keep going foward.

    If the bugs are too much to you , that is fair , there are many , just leave for a while and hope that in a few months most of them will be fixed.
    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
    -Hanlon's razor
  • kirnmalidus
    kirnmalidus
    ✭✭✭✭
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Eventually, the sun will go nova. We'll all quit by then at the latest.

    Your premise is flawed. Even if you ignore the likelihood of another catastrophe befalling us you haven't accounted for the possibility of interstellar travel. ESO could be played until the end of the universe and scientists don't know if it even will end. Theoretically, your ancestors could play ESO for eternity.

    *Descendants
    Life of a Nightblade (Screenshot Tumblr)

    Attention Zenimax: Stamina builds don't hold up to magicka builds, and this is causing most of your class imbalance. It makes melee weapons and bows weaker than staves and class abilities. It makes medium and heavy armor less desirable than light armor. Fix this imbalance, and you'll address most of your balance issues.

    - @ruze84b14_ESO
  • GrimlockSaves
    GrimlockSaves
    ✭✭✭
    Phazzle wrote: »
    Eventually, I will quit ESO.

    That's all I read.
  • GreySix
    GreySix
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the bugs are too much to you , that is fair , there are many , just leave for a while and hope that in a few months most of them will be fixed.

    Not bad advice, and that's likely what many are doing and will be doing. The hope of course is that ESO is still around and has made sought-after improvements, so such folks can resubscribe a year or so down the road.
    Crotchety Old Man Guild

    "Hey you, get off my lawn!"
Sign In or Register to comment.