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The unnoticed secret of ESO that could change everything...
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PSLAnimal✭✭✭✭Animal (Ask me what the PSL stands for. Go on. Ask.)
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Kililin✭✭✭✭The Warrior Chronicles, Bernard Cornwell
If you want some real good stories, and its not too hard to understand.
Every story i read in this game is at best mediocre.
Just because someone writes lots of text does not mean it is a good or engaging story.1 -
jeradlub17_ESO✭✭✭
Well today is your lucky day. You will soon have the "joy" of being forced through two more faction's entire 1-50 content of the same storyline told from a different pov whether you want to or not on your main just to complete the main storyline. Yes, it gets boring it's the same story told different and it makes leveling a different class to completion to experience a different flavor of the game a total pita.I am almost level 47 (first play through) and im so happy I read the stories and everything. It's been more fun playing this any any other mmo I've played by far.
To be honest, I'm almost upset about hitting 50 soon because I just want to play through again. I think I may just do that sooner rather than later. Glad to see someone who raced to 50 is taking the time now to enjoy it.
I have some level 50 friends who whine and complain that they are bored but all they do is race race race to max level so they can pvp and they learn nothing along the way and they don't even enjoy it. Sad. Yes, I'm mostly talking about you, DJ.
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Reevster✭✭✭✭✭Ya all the so called hard core /redbull drinkers have go on to the next "rush to end game" type game to try and be number one while the smart players are taking the time and actually are doing most of the content, you dont even hear them cry much anymore about nothing else to do , so them must be all rushing to the top in another game, sad really.1
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HandofBane✭✭✭✭HandofBane wrote: »
Well, quite.
While I greatly enjoyed some of the messages I got from both my provisioner and clothier hirelings, there were far too many messages that were cut short. For some reason it almost always seemed to be the ones that were followups to cliffhanger multi-day messages. I never did find out what exactly happened with that hermit mage in the desert that my clothier hireling went to visit, except that after the fact some running away and being cheated out of something was involved. :'(2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »
Well today is your lucky day. You will soon have the "joy" of being forced through two more faction's entire 1-50 content of the same storyline told from a different pov whether you want to or not on your main just to complete the main storyline. Yes, it gets boring it's the same story told different and it makes leveling a different class to completion to experience a different flavor of the game a total pita.I am almost level 47 (first play through) and im so happy I read the stories and everything. It's been more fun playing this any any other mmo I've played by far.
To be honest, I'm almost upset about hitting 50 soon because I just want to play through again. I think I may just do that sooner rather than later. Glad to see someone who raced to 50 is taking the time now to enjoy it.
I have some level 50 friends who whine and complain that they are bored but all they do is race race race to max level so they can pvp and they learn nothing along the way and they don't even enjoy it. Sad. Yes, I'm mostly talking about you, DJ.
It's not at all the same story, especially since the main quest no longer plays out in VR zones. You get the new faction quests, new side quests, lots of fun new culture stuff from the races you never interacted with in your faction, etc.
It's fine if you don't like story and character in your RPG, but this game is part of a series that's fairly renowned for having fun and engaging characters. And many of us are specifically here because it's an MMO that doesn't reward people for grinding their way up to VR12 as fast as humanly possible.----
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Daethz✭✭✭Ya all the so called hard core /redbull drinkers have go on to the next "rush to end game" type game to try and be number one while the smart players are taking the time and actually are doing most of the content, you dont even hear them cry much anymore about nothing else to do , so them must be all rushing to the top in another game, sad really.
Im a redbull drinking game rusher, only i Rush completion aswell, I rapidly finish every quest in a zone.
Got bored in (Vet)Greenshade, quitting now, cant even muster up the effort to do one more quest.
Edited by Daethz on June 10, 2014 11:08PMWaiting, and watching, for the return of Melee Weapons.
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✭✭✭✭✭Ya all the so called hard core /redbull drinkers have go on to the next "rush to end game" type game to try and be number one while the smart players are taking the time and actually are doing most of the content, you dont even hear them cry much anymore about nothing else to do , so them must be all rushing to the top in another game, sad really.
Im a redbull drinking game rusher, only i Rush completion aswell, I rapidly finish every quest in a zone.
Got bored in (Vet)Greenshade, quitting now, cant even muster up the effort to do one more quest.
Again, you seem to have misunderstood the post you quoted.
If you rush through the content, you're going to get bored very quickly. If you actually take a tiny bit of time and get involved in the story/world, you'll stay engaged.----
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✭The AD ones are my favorites so far, but they're all good.
I started a Templar (I know) in the AD waiting on my acct to clear, and she did the quest where she had to act all big and bad and go to jail. I that that was funny. Then right before the scene ends, an NPC kicks her in the butt. Had to laugh at that one!"Billions upon Billions of Stars"1 -
Alazarz✭✭✭GrimlockSaves wrote: »After reaching V12 in a kind of vanity crazed rush, I decided to play the game differently... Two things:
- I started listening to quest givers and learning the story of what is going on.
- I started to read lore books.
Absolutely. Good for you (I mean that in a positive way).That is the only way to play ESO. ESO is just as I had imagined an ES-MMO would be well over a decade ago, after playing Morrowind. >> Buggy and clunky... but massive with alot of possibilities and deep, fantastic lore.
If anyone is going to play ESO and disregard the lore to rush to endgame, then they are playing the wrong game IMO. There are much better MMO's to play in that regard. Where the combat is fluid, there aren't many bugs, the graphics are great, and leveling to end game is fast... but lack lore anywhere near as fantastic as ESO lore. Lore!!! It IS the game! My motto thus far: Love lore or gtfo because we don't want to hear the complaints!
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Reevster✭✭✭✭✭Ya all the so called hard core /redbull drinkers have go on to the next "rush to end game" type game to try and be number one while the smart players are taking the time and actually are doing most of the content, you dont even hear them cry much anymore about nothing else to do , so them must be all rushing to the top in another game, sad really.
Im a redbull drinking game rusher, only i Rush completion aswell, I rapidly finish every quest in a zone.
Got bored in (Vet)Greenshade, quitting now, cant even muster up the effort to do one more quest.
Cya, have fun in Wildstar lol, or whatever other game that needs to be "rushed" "Rapidly" through...
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Kililin✭✭✭✭GrimlockSaves wrote: »After reaching V12 in a kind of vanity crazed rush, I decided to play the game differently... Two things:
- I started listening to quest givers and learning the story of what is going on.
- I started to read lore books.
Absolutely. Good for you (I mean that in a positive way).That is the only way to play ESO. ESO is just as I had imagined an ES-MMO would be well over a decade ago, after playing Morrowind. >> Buggy and clunky... but massive with alot of possibilities and deep, fantastic lore.
If anyone is going to play ESO and disregard the lore to rush to endgame, then they are playing the wrong game IMO. There are much better MMO's to play in that regard. Where the combat is fluid, there aren't many bugs, the graphics are great, and leveling to end game is fast... but lack lore anywhere near as fantastic as ESO lore. Lore!!! It IS the game! My motto thus far: Love lore or gtfo because we don't want to hear the complaints!
Do enough people like this kind of mmo to warrant the maintenance costs?
We will see...0 -
Paladin_echo1✭✭✭Ya this is a nice thread. I was reading through taking a break from being disgruntled at stamina. I hope those guys keep the stamina over there and the reading over here though.0
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✭✭✭✭✭GrimlockSaves wrote: »After reaching V12 in a kind of vanity crazed rush, I decided to play the game differently... Two things:- I started listening to quest givers and learning the story of what is going on.
- I started to read lore books.
Absolutely. Good for you (I mean that in a positive way).That is the only way to play ESO. ESO is just as I had imagined an ES-MMO would be well over a decade ago, after playing Morrowind. >> Buggy and clunky... but massive with alot of possibilities and deep, fantastic lore.
If anyone is going to play ESO and disregard the lore to rush to endgame, then they are playing the wrong game IMO. There are much better MMO's to play in that regard. Where the combat is fluid, there aren't many bugs, the graphics are great, and leveling to end game is fast... but lack lore anywhere near as fantastic as ESO lore. Lore!!! It IS the game! My motto thus far: Love lore or gtfo because we don't want to hear the complaints!
Do enough people like this kind of mmo to warrant the maintenance costs?
We will see...
The Elder Scrolls franchise has been going long enough to say that there's a built-in subscriber base. Once enough of the fans who were on the fence because of the MMO aspects of the game start to hear that the core of the game is the world/lore/characters, more of them will be coming over.----
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WhimsyDragon✭✭✭I actually think that many of the storylines are very well-written and appreciate that they seem more interesting than some other MMOs I've played. Some of my friends, however, disagree. Differing tastes, I suppose.
I'm sure developers know, however, that there are always folks who do not read at all or bits and pieces. It's just the way things go with MMOs--different play styles. There are a ton of books so not reading them all is understandable, but skipping out on this altogether seems like missing out on a big part of the game.2 -
Reevster✭✭✭✭✭Ya rushing through to the top as fast as you can after spending 60 to 80 bucks on a game just doesn't make much sense, kinda like buying a fancy $6 coffee and drinking 1/8 of it and throwing the rest away...go figure.2
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Kililin✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »GrimlockSaves wrote: »After reaching V12 in a kind of vanity crazed rush, I decided to play the game differently... Two things:
- I started listening to quest givers and learning the story of what is going on.
- I started to read lore books.
Absolutely. Good for you (I mean that in a positive way).That is the only way to play ESO. ESO is just as I had imagined an ES-MMO would be well over a decade ago, after playing Morrowind. >> Buggy and clunky... but massive with alot of possibilities and deep, fantastic lore.
If anyone is going to play ESO and disregard the lore to rush to endgame, then they are playing the wrong game IMO. There are much better MMO's to play in that regard. Where the combat is fluid, there aren't many bugs, the graphics are great, and leveling to end game is fast... but lack lore anywhere near as fantastic as ESO lore. Lore!!! It IS the game! My motto thus far: Love lore or gtfo because we don't want to hear the complaints!
Do enough people like this kind of mmo to warrant the maintenance costs?
We will see...
The Elder Scrolls franchise has been going long enough to say that there's a built-in subscriber base. Once enough of the fans who were on the fence because of the MMO aspects of the game start to hear that the core of the game is the world/lore/characters, more of them will be coming over.
No you cant say that, there is no evidence for it.
Also, do you realise that people have been subscribing the top MMO's for years, and i am talking 5 to 10 Years. Do you really think this game contains even nearly that much quest content? Even for levellers in slow mo with gimped builds its not so.
Just because a franchise exists does not mean a mmorpg will be successfull. It could be or not, i could be after f2p or never....0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »GrimlockSaves wrote: »After reaching V12 in a kind of vanity crazed rush, I decided to play the game differently... Two things:- I started listening to quest givers and learning the story of what is going on.
- I started to read lore books.
Absolutely. Good for you (I mean that in a positive way).That is the only way to play ESO. ESO is just as I had imagined an ES-MMO would be well over a decade ago, after playing Morrowind. >> Buggy and clunky... but massive with alot of possibilities and deep, fantastic lore.
If anyone is going to play ESO and disregard the lore to rush to endgame, then they are playing the wrong game IMO. There are much better MMO's to play in that regard. Where the combat is fluid, there aren't many bugs, the graphics are great, and leveling to end game is fast... but lack lore anywhere near as fantastic as ESO lore. Lore!!! It IS the game! My motto thus far: Love lore or gtfo because we don't want to hear the complaints!
Do enough people like this kind of mmo to warrant the maintenance costs?
We will see...
The Elder Scrolls franchise has been going long enough to say that there's a built-in subscriber base. Once enough of the fans who were on the fence because of the MMO aspects of the game start to hear that the core of the game is the world/lore/characters, more of them will be coming over.
No you cant say that, there is no evidence for it.
Also, do you realise that people have been subscribing the top MMO's for years, and i am talking 5 to 10 Years. Do you really think this game contains even nearly that much quest content? Even for levellers in slow mo with gimped builds its not so.
Just because a franchise exists does not mean a mmorpg will be successfull. It could be or not, i could be after f2p or never....
The most successful MMOs in the industry have gone through countless updates and expansions at this point. So yes, if you look at their vanilla release, I believe that this game has more than enough quest material to compete.----
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jeradlub17_ESO✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »
Well today is your lucky day. You will soon have the "joy" of being forced through two more faction's entire 1-50 content of the same storyline told from a different pov whether you want to or not on your main just to complete the main storyline. Yes, it gets boring it's the same story told different and it makes leveling a different class to completion to experience a different flavor of the game a total pita.I am almost level 47 (first play through) and im so happy I read the stories and everything. It's been more fun playing this any any other mmo I've played by far.
To be honest, I'm almost upset about hitting 50 soon because I just want to play through again. I think I may just do that sooner rather than later. Glad to see someone who raced to 50 is taking the time now to enjoy it.
I have some level 50 friends who whine and complain that they are bored but all they do is race race race to max level so they can pvp and they learn nothing along the way and they don't even enjoy it. Sad. Yes, I'm mostly talking about you, DJ.
It's not at all the same story, especially since the main quest no longer plays out in VR zones. You get the new faction quests, new side quests, lots of fun new culture stuff from the races you never interacted with in your faction, etc.
It's fine if you don't like story and character in your RPG, but this game is part of a series that's fairly renowned for having fun and engaging characters. And many of us are specifically here because it's an MMO that doesn't reward people for grinding their way up to VR12 as fast as humanly possible.
Say whatever you want but it is the exact same story dressed in different clothes unless a person failed to read between the lines the first time they went through it to consider the enemy's point of view there aren't any surprises you didn't already know. The main story quests are still there that is what leads you town to town through the vet zones minus the harborage portions which you have already done. Not sure why you think there is no reward for being at V12 now when content just got released for that and you need it to be on your game in pvp which is the real end story fighting over the imperial remnants and the upcoming pvp dungeon. No rushing was needed to hit v12. You can do it reading everything and doing all quests without being a turtle about it.- Dallamar, Sorc, EP
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Alazarz✭✭✭Do you really think this game contains even nearly that much quest content?
But that's the thing... it isn't just lore from the quests. Lore comes from everywhere and doesn't even have to be related to quests. I would say: Absolutely there is enough lore within ESO to sustain those who like lore.
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Moiskormoimi✭✭✭✭So basically, you think that everyone should be forced to play the way you do because YOU find it enjoyable? Accept the fact that there are people who enjoy questing, rping, grinding, pvping, power leveling, leveling only through dungeons, etc. and get over it.0
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Kililin✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »GrimlockSaves wrote: »After reaching V12 in a kind of vanity crazed rush, I decided to play the game differently... Two things:
- I started listening to quest givers and learning the story of what is going on.
- I started to read lore books.
Absolutely. Good for you (I mean that in a positive way).That is the only way to play ESO. ESO is just as I had imagined an ES-MMO would be well over a decade ago, after playing Morrowind. >> Buggy and clunky... but massive with alot of possibilities and deep, fantastic lore.
If anyone is going to play ESO and disregard the lore to rush to endgame, then they are playing the wrong game IMO. There are much better MMO's to play in that regard. Where the combat is fluid, there aren't many bugs, the graphics are great, and leveling to end game is fast... but lack lore anywhere near as fantastic as ESO lore. Lore!!! It IS the game! My motto thus far: Love lore or gtfo because we don't want to hear the complaints!
Do enough people like this kind of mmo to warrant the maintenance costs?
We will see...
The Elder Scrolls franchise has been going long enough to say that there's a built-in subscriber base. Once enough of the fans who were on the fence because of the MMO aspects of the game start to hear that the core of the game is the world/lore/characters, more of them will be coming over.
No you cant say that, there is no evidence for it.
Also, do you realise that people have been subscribing the top MMO's for years, and i am talking 5 to 10 Years. Do you really think this game contains even nearly that much quest content? Even for levellers in slow mo with gimped builds its not so.
Just because a franchise exists does not mean a mmorpg will be successfull. It could be or not, i could be after f2p or never....
The most successful MMOs in the industry have gone through countless updates and expansions at this point. So yes, if you look at their vanilla release, I believe that this game has more than enough quest material to compete.
The successfull games did not build on quest content. Quests in these games have been there either for levelling purposes or a few special quests. There was other content in all of them. This has nothing to do with vanilla or not, quest content is finite, and not a major selling point. Maybe people love to be able to do quest content well done, if its the only thing - single player games do it better.0 -
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✭It's not just the quest-givers you people should listen to. Often all sorts of NPC dialogue changes in and around the area you're questing depending upon what part of the mission you're up to.
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jeradlub17_ESO✭✭✭Ya all the so called hard core /redbull drinkers have go on to the next "rush to end game" type game to try and be number one while the smart players are taking the time and actually are doing most of the content, you dont even hear them cry much anymore about nothing else to do , so them must be all rushing to the top in another game, sad really.
Apparently you don't realize that most of the end game people did do ALL of the content and while it was bugged. They are also doing it right now in Crag and Cyro. You are being demeaning to the majority of the player base thinking you are the "smart" player going slow assuming others rushed and skipped content when in fact they simply did ALL the content faster than you. By the time you get to Crag there may not be enough around to do the content reliably and you could miss out on that part of the story thinking others have rushed to it depending on how slow you are taking it. Being slow does not equal intelligence or being smart.Edited by jeradlub17_ESO on June 10, 2014 11:39PM- Dallamar, Sorc, EP
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✭FrauPerchta wrote: »adamrussell52_ESO wrote: »Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »SWTOR had story too, guess story doesnt sell all that well.
SWTOR story was really awful though. None of the dialogue rang true to me.
Story depended on class. I loved the Agent story line
Yeah, the Agent story was my favorite.Crotchety Old Man Guild
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moXrox✭✭✭GrimlockSaves wrote: »After reaching V12 in a kind of vanity crazed rush, I decided to play the game differently... Two things:
- I started listening to quest givers and learning the story of what is going on.
- I started to read lore books.
I then went on to think, maybe there are a lot of bugs and issues, but maybe ZOS had a strong focus on delivering a beautiful MMO world with a rich RPG lore.
Perhaps ZOS has paid attention and realized in all MMOs, class balance and bugs are a constant, but good stories are few and far between. Have you noticed how fixing quests and story progression has taken a priority in many instances?
Maybe they DIDN'T expect fans to superficially disregard quests and story lines (except for when they are broken) to such a monumental degree.
For all the haters and power levelers who are rocking this like an MMO FPS, I highly recommend trying to play it like an MMORPG. Yes, there is no immediate "look at me and my shiny gear" rewards, but there are good stories.
Like ANY relationship in the entire world, if you focus on the negative seek to find faults, you will find them and they will make you a negative and unhappy person. If you focus on the positive and seek good things, you will find them and they will endow you with the patience to weather any puny storm of negativity.
You are quiete late with V12, starting to listening to quest giver/reading text and maybe discovering some books.
Thats how you actually many people play the game. Thats no secret.
My condolence to those who just rush through the content.
Edited by moXrox on June 11, 2014 12:56AMMusic Channel:
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Reevster✭✭✭✭✭jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »Ya all the so called hard core /redbull drinkers have go on to the next "rush to end game" type game to try and be number one while the smart players are taking the time and actually are doing most of the content, you dont even hear them cry much anymore about nothing else to do , so them must be all rushing to the top in another game, sad really.
Apparently you don't realize that most of the end game people did do ALL of the content and while it was bugged. They are also doing it right now in Crag and Cyro. You are being demeaning to the majority of the player base thinking you are the "smart" player going slow assuming others rushed and skipped content when in fact they simply did ALL the content faster than you. By the time you get to Crag there may not be enough around to do the content reliably and you could miss out on that part of the story thinking others have rushed to it depending on how slow you are taking it. Being slow does not equal intelligence or being smart.
Sure they did lol, thats why you saw guides on how to get through VR content the quickest way possible by bypassing most of the content. those same players were the first to whine about having nothing left too do....
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Rastaban✭✭✭I have to disagree. I think the quests could be better. The whole premise of the game's storyline is that we don't have a soul because it's been taken but we get back to Tamriel in our bodies anyway. What would be the repercussions of losing one's soul? In ESO, not having a soul seems to make no difference. It would have been much better for one's soul to mean something.1 -
MrDenimChicken✭✭✭✭✭People in this thread are treating the questing in here like it is some fine wine to be savored. Gimme a break.
The quests in this game are at times great, most of the time very average and repetitive. And yet people are calling it brilliant? really?
There aren't any cut scenes. Most quests are pretty anti climactic with limited effects, or with bosses that don't have any phasing or don't even say anything. There are so many times where all I can think to myself at the end of the quest is: really? that's it?
Main story quests are good. Main zone quests are good as well. The rest of the quests are mostly pretty repetitive, sometimes there is a gem in there that makes you feel for the character you are helping. But there are times when I just get so bored of the quests that I start pressing 1 1 1 1 because I already know the quest plot line and I know what will happen.6