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Oil POTS = godmode
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leewells✭✭✭ok I would like to says oil pots need to be looked at
1.you can put them down on any flat surface like in a house, at a door, etc?
2. you can put mutli ones down very close to each other?
3. you can dump you at your feet on a fat surface and not get hurt?
this is making taking a keep etc almost impossible. I hope this is brought down to a more sensible level. A hand full of people are able now to hold off And farm kills on a horde of people.
What are your thoughts on this? I am kind of looking at this as an exploit.
Beedles
Purge, Purity, Slip Away, Roll, are just a few things that come to mind that completely neutralize the effects of oil. The best way to neutralize it is to kill the player on it, it really is that simple. If you pop a barrier and 1v1 a player on oil, you will win because the oil is only a burst dps with a long cool-down between pouring.2 -
Takanami✭✭✭Animus0724 wrote: »
Nope. I just have enough knowledge to know where or where not to go. I guarantee people complaining are the ones gathering outside the main door waiting to be the hero to charge inside the fort so they can type: FIRST!3 -
Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭The ONLY time I find oil annoying is inside resource keeps because of the door lag.
Everywhere else you can see it, time your purge/negate/purify/banner/etc.
It would be nice if it wasn't possible to use it on the immediately adjacent ground, but otherwise it's fine."nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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Halrloprillalar wrote: »The ONLY time I find oil annoying is inside resource keeps because of the door lag.
Everywhere else you can see it, time your purge/negate/purify/banner/etc.
It would be nice if it wasn't possible to use it on the immediately adjacent ground, but otherwise it's fine.
I acctually think that was the OP's entire point, ppl didnt understand him that's all. He doesnt want you to be able to use it on flat ground and pour it at your feet. He means there should perhaps be a height minimum?
I don't think its a priority but it is kinda weird pouring the oil straight at your feet.
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Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭james_vestbergb16_ESO wrote: »Halrloprillalar wrote: »The ONLY time I find oil annoying is inside resource keeps because of the door lag.
Everywhere else you can see it, time your purge/negate/purify/banner/etc.
It would be nice if it wasn't possible to use it on the immediately adjacent ground, but otherwise it's fine.
I acctually think that was the OP's entire point, ppl didnt understand him that's all. He doesnt want you to be able to use it on flat ground and pour it at your feet. He means there should perhaps be a height minimum?
I don't think its a priority but it is kinda weird pouring the oil straight at your feet.
I feel like that would be a fantastically difficult thing to code for some reason...
INB4 bosmer can't use oil cuz too short jokes"nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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frwinters_ESO✭✭✭✭Regardless on how they can be avoided, the idea that you can pout the oil on a flat surface was not intended. Thats not what oil pots were made for historically. This needs to be changed.1 -
frwinters_ESO wrote: »Regardless on how they can be avoided, the idea that you can pout the oil on a flat surface was not intended. Thats not what oil pots were made for historically. This needs to be changed.
This game isnt based off history... this is fictional.
By that logic lightning ballista's should be taken outEdited by the.dzeneralb16_ESO on June 10, 2014 6:49PM2 -
frwinters_ESO✭✭✭✭the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »frwinters_ESO wrote: »Regardless on how they can be avoided, the idea that you can pout the oil on a flat surface was not intended. Thats not what oil pots were made for historically. This needs to be changed.
This game isnt based off history... this is fictional.
By that logic lightning ballista's should be taken out
The basic thought of all siege weapons in every game is based off of history cause they existed and all had a purpose. which mimic the use in the game. Oil pots one purpose was to be poured over sides of castle and keep walls to protect the gates and burn those who try to climb the walls. The fantasy of the game adds the lightning, cold etc etc.
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frwinters_ESO wrote: »the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »frwinters_ESO wrote: »Regardless on how they can be avoided, the idea that you can pout the oil on a flat surface was not intended. Thats not what oil pots were made for historically. This needs to be changed.
This game isnt based off history... this is fictional.
By that logic lightning ballista's should be taken out
The basic thought of all siege weapons in every game is based off of history cause they existed and all had a purpose. which mimic the use in the game. Oil pots one purpose was to be poured over sides of castle and keep walls to protect the gates and burn those who try to climb the walls. The fantasy of the game adds the lightning, cold etc etc.
You're right, they mimic the use. Oil pots purpose was to, well, pour oil on the enemy and that is exactly what they do.0 -
frwinters_ESO✭✭✭✭the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »frwinters_ESO wrote: »the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »frwinters_ESO wrote: »Regardless on how they can be avoided, the idea that you can pout the oil on a flat surface was not intended. Thats not what oil pots were made for historically. This needs to be changed.
This game isnt based off history... this is fictional.
By that logic lightning ballista's should be taken out
The basic thought of all siege weapons in every game is based off of history cause they existed and all had a purpose. which mimic the use in the game. Oil pots one purpose was to be poured over sides of castle and keep walls to protect the gates and burn those who try to climb the walls. The fantasy of the game adds the lightning, cold etc etc.
You're right, they mimic the use. Oil pots purpose was to, well, pour oil on the enemy and that is exactly what they do.
Ok....ill feed the troll once more.
Oil pots were not mean to be ground level and just poured on the ground in front of you. they were designed to be poured down over the edge of a keep.
Still hungry come at me again im bored at work, got 20 minutes left.0 -
ThyIronFist✭✭✭✭✭Mad cuz bad.
/threadThe Elder Zergs Online
Sainur Ironfist - DK - EU - Ebonheart Pact
Retired2 -
frwinters_ESO wrote: »the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »frwinters_ESO wrote: »the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »frwinters_ESO wrote: »Regardless on how they can be avoided, the idea that you can pout the oil on a flat surface was not intended. Thats not what oil pots were made for historically. This needs to be changed.
This game isnt based off history... this is fictional.
By that logic lightning ballista's should be taken out
The basic thought of all siege weapons in every game is based off of history cause they existed and all had a purpose. which mimic the use in the game. Oil pots one purpose was to be poured over sides of castle and keep walls to protect the gates and burn those who try to climb the walls. The fantasy of the game adds the lightning, cold etc etc.
You're right, they mimic the use. Oil pots purpose was to, well, pour oil on the enemy and that is exactly what they do.
Ok....ill feed the troll once more.
Oil pots were not mean to be ground level and just poured on the ground in front of you. they were designed to be poured down over the edge of a keep.
Still hungry come at me again im bored at work, got 20 minutes left.
Anyone who disagrees with you is a troll? Great way to live.
The simple truth is they were, in this game, designed to be placed on the ground, ledges, floors,etc...
Many people have stated, they are not OP, they are easily avoidable, and they can be stopped in many ways. If anything I'd say they need a slight buff to reload time or turn rate.1 -
TheGrandAlliance✭✭✭✭OIlpots==Bug mode
They are worthless vr vr10+ (that know what they are doing). Might as well be a bug cause u are gonna get smashed.Edited by TheGrandAlliance on June 11, 2014 12:34AMIndeed it is so...0 -
cjmarsh725b14_ESO✭✭✭✭Oil Pots are awesome. For going to Celarus and wiping out groups of Emperor farmers.0
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InvictoNZ✭✭✭This game seriously needs friendly fire.
"Oh look, I'll just deploy an oil during combat, and burn the guy next to me, but not myself, cause I'm immune to my own burning".
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TheGrandAlliance✭✭✭✭This game seriously needs friendly fire.
"Oh look, I'll just deploy an oil during combat, and burn the guy next to me, but not myself, cause I'm immune to my own burning".
Doesn't work when you cannot deal with griefers. FUthermore whole AoE cap situation as well.Edited by TheGrandAlliance on June 11, 2014 1:22AMIndeed it is so...0 -
This game seriously needs friendly fire.
"Oh look, I'll just deploy an oil during combat, and burn the guy next to me, but not myself, cause I'm immune to my own burning".
Friendly fire may be, by far, the worst suggestion for PvP. Cant take a keep? Hop on any of your ults, travel to the keep, burn your entire team while the other faction rushes in. There have already been people going on an alt and pulling people up walls for keeps for easy invasions and such. That is just one example.2 -
InvictoNZ✭✭✭the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »This game seriously needs friendly fire.
"Oh look, I'll just deploy an oil during combat, and burn the guy next to me, but not myself, cause I'm immune to my own burning".
Friendly fire may be, by far, the worst suggestion for PvP. Cant take a keep? Hop on any of your ults, travel to the keep, burn your entire team while the other faction rushes in. There have already been people going on an alt and pulling people up walls for keeps for easy invasions and such. That is just one example.
Friendly fire has been done in many games, and it works. There are penalities for abuse, including not being able to use any abilities for a time (timeout for babies).
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cjmarsh725b14_ESO✭✭✭✭
I cannot think of a single game where friendly fire has been used well.the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »This game seriously needs friendly fire.
"Oh look, I'll just deploy an oil during combat, and burn the guy next to me, but not myself, cause I'm immune to my own burning".
Friendly fire may be, by far, the worst suggestion for PvP. Cant take a keep? Hop on any of your ults, travel to the keep, burn your entire team while the other faction rushes in. There have already been people going on an alt and pulling people up walls for keeps for easy invasions and such. That is just one example.
Friendly fire has been done in many games, and it works. There are penalities for abuse, including not being able to use any abilities for a time (timeout for babies).0 -
InvictoNZ✭✭✭Eve Online, Planetside 2.
Imagine if you had to use your brain to deal with any combat situation.
Good teams would still run around AEing (each other) and still living. Bad teams would all die to each others AE.
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cjmarsh725b14_ESO✭✭✭✭
Ok, you got me. I've even played both those games, should have thought of it.Eve Online, Planetside 2.
Imagine if you had to use your brain to deal with any combat situation.
Good teams would still run around AEing (each other) and still living. Bad teams would all die to each others AE.0 -
the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »This game seriously needs friendly fire.
"Oh look, I'll just deploy an oil during combat, and burn the guy next to me, but not myself, cause I'm immune to my own burning".
Friendly fire may be, by far, the worst suggestion for PvP. Cant take a keep? Hop on any of your ults, travel to the keep, burn your entire team while the other faction rushes in. There have already been people going on an alt and pulling people up walls for keeps for easy invasions and such. That is just one example.
Friendly fire has been done in many games, and it works. There are penalities for abuse, including not being able to use any abilities for a time (timeout for babies).
I can't think of a single game that friendly fire has worked well in (I obviously am talking MMO's specifically)
edit: Haven't played those, but I'm going to assume that they don't have the type of PvP we do. Instead of having to deal with reporting, hoping people get punished, etc.. (Which would be pointless because even if they were punished the keep would be taken, the points would be lost, and the person who did it already succeeded).
How about: Learn not to charge into enemy territory blindly and just beat them with strategy?Edited by the.dzeneralb16_ESO on June 11, 2014 2:02AM0 -
Gumbicus✭ok I would like to says oil pots need to be looked at
1.you can put them down on any flat surface like in a house, at a door, etc?
2. you can put mutli ones down very close to each other?
3. you can dump you at your feet on a fat surface and not get hurt?
this is making taking a keep etc almost impossible. I hope this is brought down to a more sensible level. A hand full of people are able now to hold off And farm kills on a horde of people.
What are your thoughts on this? I am kind of looking at this as an exploit.
Beedles
We had Pact doing that to our premade, they got us the first time.
Came back the next day with our organised group, had 1 DK spam fragmented shield and we all stood ontop of the oil.
He got obliterated.0 -
Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭If they are camping keep doors with them, break thru the walls, if they are inside a resources tower, simply retreat, wait for them to come out, and kill them. If they are on stairs, or other chokepoints, bait them, then charge them. You can also get some archers and some mages to range kill them, there are many ways to deal with oil. Heck, its not like they can just set it down and leave it for 30 mins. The oil pots decay quick, iv seen oil pot health drop fast(unless the latest patch changed that)
Edited by Cody on June 11, 2014 4:57AM0 -
DrizztSoul ShrivenThe only problem with oil is the ground level. The damage is ok, you can avoided if it is above you but if it's everywhere even if there is nothing above you there is a bit of a problem. I have seen people putting down 3 or 4 oil behind the wall we where destroying and even if you don't rush in, you have to fight that player who just run between two of his oil pots, and burn everyone except him and spam shield&heal and keep running between his oil pots at ground level.
That's the major issue with oil pots, the ground level and the fact that the guy can just walk in his own boiling oil without any problem. There should really be a minimum height at which you can throw your oil. You can already put like 4 oil pots around a inner wall that's destroyed and cover almost the same area. You don't need to have 4 more at ground level we're you are and if the other players are gonna fight you they will go obivously in the oil.Drizzt - DK DPS/Tank v14 Drizzt Daermon - Templar Heal v14 Wulfgar Beorngar - Nightblade Dps lvl38 S'renji0 -
frwinters_ESO✭✭✭✭the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »frwinters_ESO wrote: »the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »frwinters_ESO wrote: »the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »frwinters_ESO wrote: »Regardless on how they can be avoided, the idea that you can pout the oil on a flat surface was not intended. Thats not what oil pots were made for historically. This needs to be changed.
This game isnt based off history... this is fictional.
By that logic lightning ballista's should be taken out
The basic thought of all siege weapons in every game is based off of history cause they existed and all had a purpose. which mimic the use in the game. Oil pots one purpose was to be poured over sides of castle and keep walls to protect the gates and burn those who try to climb the walls. The fantasy of the game adds the lightning, cold etc etc.
You're right, they mimic the use. Oil pots purpose was to, well, pour oil on the enemy and that is exactly what they do.
Ok....ill feed the troll once more.
Oil pots were not mean to be ground level and just poured on the ground in front of you. they were designed to be poured down over the edge of a keep.
Still hungry come at me again im bored at work, got 20 minutes left.
Anyone who disagrees with you is a troll? Great way to live.
The simple truth is they were, in this game, designed to be placed on the ground, ledges, floors,etc...
Many people have stated, they are not OP, they are easily avoidable, and they can be stopped in many ways. If anything I'd say they need a slight buff to reload time or turn rate.
You must be the guy who just drops these on the ground, gets 10 kills in a few dumps then says im awesome at PvP, i got mad skillz yo.0 -
frwinters_ESO wrote: »the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »frwinters_ESO wrote: »the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »frwinters_ESO wrote: »the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »frwinters_ESO wrote: »Regardless on how they can be avoided, the idea that you can pout the oil on a flat surface was not intended. Thats not what oil pots were made for historically. This needs to be changed.
This game isnt based off history... this is fictional.
By that logic lightning ballista's should be taken out
The basic thought of all siege weapons in every game is based off of history cause they existed and all had a purpose. which mimic the use in the game. Oil pots one purpose was to be poured over sides of castle and keep walls to protect the gates and burn those who try to climb the walls. The fantasy of the game adds the lightning, cold etc etc.
You're right, they mimic the use. Oil pots purpose was to, well, pour oil on the enemy and that is exactly what they do.
Ok....ill feed the troll once more.
Oil pots were not mean to be ground level and just poured on the ground in front of you. they were designed to be poured down over the edge of a keep.
Still hungry come at me again im bored at work, got 20 minutes left.
Anyone who disagrees with you is a troll? Great way to live.
The simple truth is they were, in this game, designed to be placed on the ground, ledges, floors,etc...
Many people have stated, they are not OP, they are easily avoidable, and they can be stopped in many ways. If anything I'd say they need a slight buff to reload time or turn rate.
You must be the guy who just drops these on the ground, gets 10 kills in a few dumps then says im awesome at PvP, i got mad skillz yo.
No, but nice try... if you were still in highschool. I carry all sieges, and many camps. I tend to place them down for members to use while I gank and scout if you're curious.
on the flip side, I bet youre the moron rushing into the flag first thing when the wall breaks.
edit: Then complains that they die to sieges.Edited by the.dzeneralb16_ESO on June 11, 2014 7:10PM0 -
CheesyDaedra✭✭✭You just proposed the fix, let the oil pots damage the users if they simply splat it on the ground. The way people have been using it is ridiculous and totally immersion breaking, they can completely negate a spot if they begin spamming these on the ground.Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick, it's a very delicate state of mind.0
