All I kept hearing was Sorc was OP in PVP.....

Erock25
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So why are there zero sorceror in top 10 overall rank for pvp and only 2 in the top 20? PVP is dominated by NB and DK. NB was 12 of the top 20.
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  • Reykice
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    It was the NB`s saying it while crying they are weak... in truth NB is the nr. 1 class right now...

    Unless they are nerfed they will be the new DK... all because they made a ton of threads...
  • crislevin
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    curious, isn't it?

    I bet there is one super OP sorc, log on probably once every four weeks (so he/she doesn't get enough AP to be on the top list) and scared the crap out of all top 20 DK/NB/Temps.
  • Ser Lobo
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    Nightblades are a very effective class, especially in PvP. Our skills don't lend us well for PvE engagements, especially Trials and many dungeons, but they work great against players.

    The real hinderance for nightblades is dual wield, which many (like myself) just can't seem to make work efficiently.

    Nightmages, a light armor and staff version of the Nightblade class, work amazingly well and have very good sync, what with many of our class skills supporting magicka use and critical strikes.

    Archer Nightblades, as well, seem to do well, though many compare the damage output to nightmages and realize we are far less powerful than our light-armor brethren.
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  • Erock25
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    The real hinderance for nightblades is dual wield, which many (like myself) just can't seem to make work efficiently.

    This seems to be the basis of a lot of NB complaints, yet they fail to realize dual wield (or any physical dmg weapon) does not work efficiently compared to either staff.
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  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    I think mostly people were saying sorcs were op at running away. I don't think you get many points for running away.
    Erock25 wrote: »
    The real hinderance for nightblades is dual wield, which many (like myself) just can't seem to make work efficiently.

    This seems to be the basis of a lot of NB complaints, yet they fail to realize dual wield (or any physical dmg weapon) does not work efficiently compared to either staff.

    It does suck, I leveled one class with staves already I ain't doing another. My nb will be dual wield no matter how sucky I am! I'll drag all of the DC down with me!
    Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on June 10, 2014 2:48AM
  • jonal11_ESO
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    You see, running away and not getting points is overpowered. Standing still, killing everything around you, well that's just underpowered.

    Duh.
  • NordJitsu
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    You see, running away and not getting points is overpowered. Standing still, killing everything around you, well that's just underpowered.

    Duh.

    Pretty much this.

    NBs are one shotting things from stealth.

    DKs can just stand there and kill 20 players.

    Sorcs used to be able to run away, but now they're just as bad as Templars.
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  • jelliedsoup
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    What nb wants to play light armour and a staff?
    Edited by jelliedsoup on June 10, 2014 6:25AM
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    NordJitsu wrote: »
    You see, running away and not getting points is overpowered. Standing still, killing everything around you, well that's just underpowered.

    Duh.

    Pretty much this.

    NBs are one shotting things from stealth.

    DKs can just stand there and kill 20 players.

    Sorcs used to be able to run away, but now they're just as bad as Templars.

    Try doing 600 damage in PvP with an nb. Mark target + focussed aim from stealth might.
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  • Arsenic_Touch
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    So which campaign are you quoting these statistics from? funny, what I'm looking at the number one player is a sorc and the next one below that is a DK and the closest NB is 6 million points away. Go figure.

    Oh, did you think the leaderboards on your campaign represented anything about what you're discussing? oh, that's so precious.
    Edited by Arsenic_Touch on June 10, 2014 6:31AM
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  • bandage106rwb17_ESO
    So exactly how did a NB get buffed in PVP exactly? I barely see any NB's actually attempting to use Veil of Blades or Path of Darkness which is really the only two skills I can think of that got buffed.

    One of the skills we used for PVP, soul harvest got nerfed it can no longer 1 shot people from stealth like we use to be able to, so what're you talking about?
  • Uviryth
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    What nb wants to play light armour and a staff?
    What DK does? Yet the nerf is based on the overperformance of D/R-LightarmorDK
  • Erock25
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    So which campaign are you quoting these statistics from? funny, what I'm looking at the number one player is a sorc and the next one below that is a DK and the closest NB is 6 million points away. Go figure.

    Oh, did you think the leaderboards on your campaign represented anything about what you're discussing? oh, that's so precious.

    I can't get back to the screen but I had a notification pop up about a guildy of mine getting on the trial leaderboards. I clicked it and it brought up the overall leaderboards for both trials (all factions) and there was a tab to switch to PVP where it showed an overall leaderboard for pvp points (all factions). I could not find a way to get to this without that notification popping up.
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  • Eylith
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    When it's about nerfing an other class, it's OK, but nerf sorc is out of limit right ? This is pathetic. Stop winning, be strong, and adapt.
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  • crislevin
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    So which campaign are you quoting these statistics from? funny, what I'm looking at the number one player is a sorc and the next one below that is a DK and the closest NB is 6 million points away. Go figure.

    Oh, did you think the leaderboards on your campaign represented anything about what you're discussing? oh, that's so precious.
    indeed so precious! Now kneel before the fact and apologize! :smiley:

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    Edited by crislevin on June 10, 2014 11:34AM
  • crislevin
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    Eylith wrote: »
    When it's about nerfing an other class, it's OK, but nerf sorc is out of limit right ? This is pathetic. Stop winning, be strong, and adapt.

    increase cost by 100%? would you tolerate this type of absurdity?
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    I think those screenshots are a indication of time spent playing the campaign? I dont think it has as much to do with owning people.
  • Morbus2
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    So why are there zero sorceror in top 10 overall rank for pvp and only 2 in the top 20? PVP is dominated by NB and DK. NB was 12 of the top 20.

    Amazing isn't it?

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    Erock25 wrote: »
    So why are there zero sorceror in top 10 overall rank for pvp and only 2 in the top 20? PVP is dominated by NB and DK. NB was 12 of the top 20.

    Because they run from all the fights.
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    hk11 wrote: »
    I think those screenshots are a indication of time spent playing the campaign? I dont think it has as much to do with owning people.

    So sorcs don't play pvp as much? so why DKs/NBs/Temps cry sorcs OP?
    Edited by crislevin on June 10, 2014 12:21PM
  • egosumacunnus
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    There are 0 Sorcs at the top as 90% of Sorcs think that walking up to someone and spaming AOE spells is mad skills yo.
    Edited by egosumacunnus on June 10, 2014 12:24PM
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  • Erock25
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    So why are there zero sorceror in top 10 overall rank for pvp and only 2 in the top 20? PVP is dominated by NB and DK. NB was 12 of the top 20.

    Because they run from all the fights.

    But why did they have to run?
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  • BSGDevastator
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    How about you try killing someone rather than just Bolt Escaping away? Might yield a little more points, no? Damn. The only crybaby-class which runs away all the time is Sorcerer.
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  • crislevin
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    How about you try killing someone rather than just Bolt Escaping away? Might yield a little more points, no? Damn. The only crybaby-class which runs away all the time is Sorcerer.

    and how does that make them OP over you again?
  • pbtanashb16_ESO
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    Ok the leaderboard represents how strong a class is not the time spent in pvp...nice "facts".
  • Erock25
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    Ok the leaderboard represents how strong a class is not the time spent in pvp...nice "facts".

    So non-Sorc players spend more time in PVP overall? I wonder why?
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  • fyendiarb16_ESO
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    *Looks frustrated at the sorcerer blinking away into the distance.*

    "Man those guys are OP, they can't be killed, bloody sorcerers!"

    *Walks away not realizing he's alive and the sorcerer just ran for his life*

    (I don't play a sorcerer btw, unless you count my lvl 7 alt)
  • crislevin
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    *Looks frustrated at the sorcerer blinking away into the distance.*

    "Man those guys are OP, they can't be killed, bloody sorcerers!"

    *Walks away not realizing he's alive and the sorcerer just ran for his life*

    (I don't play a sorcerer btw, unless you count my lvl 7 alt)

    yeah, funny how people thinks, lol
  • Luvsfuzzybunnies
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    You see, running away and not getting points is overpowered. Standing still, killing everything around you, well that's just underpowered.

    Duh.
    Yes you also deprive the other person who was fighting you the points as well which isn't a problem(except were all talking about PvP here and if one class can deny the reward of PvP to another or all then that class needs to be looked at and balanced) for you, you got away but they wasted their time beating you in a fight only to have you run and them not get points. All because you have the only ability in the game that guarantees escape if you aren't half brain dead face rolling. Sure that's fair game play. I will propose a fix and we can give you back your precious bolt escape. Anytime you engage in fights with sorcs they deal damage to you or you them, if said sorc tries to run using bolt escape more than 3 times the player(s) they are fighting receives AP's equal to the amount they would have had you died. Then it would be worth fighting your class with that ability. Ill use the /wave counter all day long. As this will not be an acceptable fix we will have to make due with the fix they implemented for the ability as is.
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