BE MAGICKA REGEN BUG AND IT'S +70% NOT +50%

madstoogb16_ESO · June 2014

Singular wrote: »

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

Haha good, people were abusing this way to much, especially to get zoom across the map. i almost mistakenly reported some for hacking. This is a blink move and in no MMO oir any game is the Blink move allowed to be spammable

It's a poor change. Now Bolt Escape functions as "move slightly to the left and don't have mana regen." In other words BE should be renamed as "Die Over There."

The OP is right - this is ridiculous.

better than what is was before.

Oh attacked, blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink... etc.

you may actually have to stand your ground and fight now.

Vis · June 2014

magickats242cub18_ESO wrote: »

This is a pvp thing, right?

Yes. Pve is too easy to worry about any skills being taken. I would feel confident with any skill line-up in pve.

crislevin · June 2014

Aimelin wrote: »

can all these baddie sorcs stop making QQ threads? sounds like you rerolled sorc just to BE all day

reroll again baddies, the regen nerf & cost increase is fine, and im a sorc, learn to not depend on one skill please

instead ppl need to be crying over resto NBs spamming funnel health all day & walking away with 100% hp

open one and I will join in.

Rylana wrote: »

How to play a sorcerer pre patch 1.1.4

impulse impulse impulse crystal impulse impulse impulse... and losing......... bolt escape bolt escape bolt escape bolt escape bolt escape

How to play a sorc post 1.1.4?

Carefully managing how I attack, watching debuffs, ok theres the knock down, carefully putting out damage, there we go, now knockback, crap im losing, ok the negate is out, careful, hey look hes dead and i never needed BE at all.

you do realize impulse was nerfed in 1.1.2, right?

and your negate sure comes out fast, what if it doesn't?

Reykice · June 2014

Most people here don`t even understand what is going on... he is not asking them not to nerf the skill, he is asking them to remove the undocumented change aka bug.

Bolt Escape now costs more if you cast it within 4 seconds AND reduces magicka regen... it can`t be both. One or the other, its clear they went with the cost increase so remove the magicka regen penalty....

Bolt Escape is our magic absorb skill, so either give DK`s and Sword + shield + templar and so on the same magicka regen penalty or remove it from the Sorc skill.

martinhpb16_ESO · June 2014

Vis wrote: »

My second bolt now costs over 450 magicka (that is with FULL light armor/trait reductions).

Good

crislevin · June 2014

indeed, if the regen nerf, which was on tooltip post 1.1.2, is now removed from tooltip, it should be removed from reality too.

Vis · June 2014

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

Most people here don`t even understand what is going on... he is not asking them not to nerf the skill, he is asking them to remove the undocumented change aka bug.

Bolt Escape now costs more if you cast it within 4 seconds AND reduces magicka regen... it can`t be both. One or the other, its clear they went with the cost increase so remove the magicka regen penalty....

Bolt Escape is our magic absorb skill, so either give DK`s and Sword + shield + templar and so on the same magicka regen penalty or remove it from the Sorc skill.

Also, a second bug ... the increase is not affected by our armor cost reductions so it's closer to +70% and not +50%.

danreckerpreub18_ESO · June 2014

eh, move the ability to the Mage's guild tree and be done with it. Give Sorcs a utility they dont have to replace it.

... What don't they have, again?

crislevin · June 2014

danreckerpreub18_ESO wrote: »

eh, move the ability to the Mage's guild tree and be done with it. Give Sorcs a utility they dont have to replace it.

... What don't they have, again?

gap closer.

move chain, teleport strike to utility tree please.

demonlkojipub19_ESO · June 2014

Another thread said to check the 2nd cast cost without any magicka cost reduction on. Do that yet?

Vis · June 2014

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Another thread said to check the 2nd cast cost without any magicka cost reduction on. Do that yet?

I have only with light armor passives on. 251 Magicka on the first cast, 446 magicka on the second ... 78% INCREASE!

A nerf to cost that is not affected by any game passives is a bonus nerf!

OrangeTheCat · June 2014

Singular wrote: »

Fairydragon3 wrote: »

Haha good, people were abusing this way to much, especially to get zoom across the map. i almost mistakenly reported some for hacking. This is a blink move and in no MMO oir any game is the Blink move allowed to be spammable

It's a poor change. Now Bolt Escape functions as "move slightly to the left and don't have mana regen." In other words BE should be renamed as "Die Over There."

The OP is right - this is ridiculous.

I agree. It's way over the top. I'll give it a try to be sure, but I expect to be removing BE from my hotbar.

Bethesda has had a very long and sad history of buggie games. I know Zos is the dev but Bethesda's name is on it and they must have some say in the matter if just to set priorities. I guess they were allowed to get away with it because their games (thinking Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout here) were so popular. But heck, Skyrim STILL has many of the old bugs (the swimming on land one comes to mind as does broken pointer).

TheBull · June 2014

I think another round of tuning is needed. Why does NB stealth have a base cost of 463 but BE's base cost is 300? wtf?

Mykah · June 2014

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

Bolt Escape now costs more if you cast it within 4 seconds AND reduces magicka regen... it can`t be both.

Sure it can.

Vis · June 2014

TheBull wrote: »

I think another round of tuning is needed. Why does NB stealth have a base cost of 463 but BE's base cost is 300? wtf?

What are you talking about?

Base cost of bolt is 392 magicka has a +70% cost added AND a fraction of the utility/benefits of stealth.

Devlinne · June 2014

Kinda like how they nerfed bats BEFORE fixing any of the vamp passives, back then hmm? ^__^
(Ultimate reduction STILL bugged on vamp stage 4 btw)

Vis · June 2014

Mykah wrote: »

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

Bolt Escape now costs more if you cast it within 4 seconds AND reduces magicka regen... it can`t be both.

Sure it can.

I bet you "wish" it could. You're just looking for ez-mode farming.

RylukShouja · June 2014

Vis wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

LOL welcome to ESO. I know it must be a shock after playing Sorc Scrolls Online.

It cost 400 magicka for NB stealth too. I can't believe you guys got away with BE for so long.

If you want it to be on par with stealth, than with all your armor cost reductions going into stealth SHOULD cost:

446 magicka AND come with a -50% magicka regen for 4 seconds.

Then you can welcome me to your world.

I'm just gonna sit my Templar butt over here in the corner and continue casting no class spell ever for under 300 magicka while you two argue about your escape skill being too expensive.

rophez_ESO · June 2014

Good fix, if a little soft. I'd rather they left BE cost the same, but you receive a 50% damage debuff for 10 seconds after use.

Vis · June 2014

rophez_ESO wrote: »

Good fix, if a little soft. I'd rather they left BE cost the same, but you receive a 50% damage debuff for 10 seconds after use.

The fix has come with bugs (i.e. not 50% but 78% for light armor wearers) and a magicka regen penalty for also 4 seconds.

One fix two new bugs. Slow clap for ZOS quality of work.

Mykah · June 2014

Vis wrote: »

Mykah wrote: »

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

Bolt Escape now costs more if you cast it within 4 seconds AND reduces magicka regen... it can`t be both.

Sure it can.

I bet you "wish" it could. You're just looking for ez-mode farming.

Wish would mean that's not whats happened. I'm GLAD because it IS whats happened. Big difference. Goodluck with your balanced skill.

Vis · June 2014

RylukShouja wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

LOL welcome to ESO. I know it must be a shock after playing Sorc Scrolls Online.

It cost 400 magicka for NB stealth too. I can't believe you guys got away with BE for so long.

If you want it to be on par with stealth, than with all your armor cost reductions going into stealth SHOULD cost:

446 magicka AND come with a -50% magicka regen for 4 seconds.

Then you can welcome me to your world.

I'm just gonna sit my Templar butt over here in the corner and continue casting no class spell ever for under 300 magicka while you two argue about your escape skill being too expensive.

Not all skills are equal. Besides, find a post where I asked for templars to be nerfed. This thread is about BE's new bugs ... not about who has what.

Mortosk · June 2014

Vis wrote: »

Not to mention cost reduction not effecting the dam increase making it cost more like: +70% and not 50%. But I bet you tested that too Emohsnevar.

Sucks you got nerfed, but what you are experiencing is a small taste of what it is like to be a melee dps templar. All our skills cost insane amounts of magicka and we have no regeneration to speak of.

Vis · June 2014

Mortosk wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

Not to mention cost reduction not effecting the dam increase making it cost more like: +70% and not 50%. But I bet you tested that too Emohsnevar.

Sucks you got nerfed, but what you are experiencing is a small taste of what it is like to be a melee dps templar. All our skills cost insane amounts of magicka and we have no regeneration to speak of.

Again, where have I posted templars were OP and needed nerfs? In fact my comments have always been for buffing templars.

Just because one class is broken, it does not mean everyone should be bugged out and miserable. That logic is punitive and KILLs new MMOs.

Liquid_Time · June 2014

Oh.. so now you have a skill you cannot use effectively until the (unintended bug) is fixed? Lets hope they identify the issue quickly or you will be playing for a few months, get a class thread dedicated to sorc, and they will work around said skill for a few more week at least.

Vis · June 2014

Even opponents of sorcs in general can agree that bugging a skill out is NOT preferable to WAI nerfs. So either ZOS needs to either edit the tooltip to reflect the +70% cost and magicka regeneration penalty, OR remove those effects.

Mortosk · June 2014

Vis wrote: »

Mortosk wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

Not to mention cost reduction not effecting the dam increase making it cost more like: +70% and not 50%. But I bet you tested that too Emohsnevar.

Sucks you got nerfed, but what you are experiencing is a small taste of what it is like to be a melee dps templar. All our skills cost insane amounts of magicka and we have no regeneration to speak of.

Again, where have I posted templars were OP and needed nerfs? In fact my comments have always been for buffing templars.

Just because one class is broken, it does not mean everyone should be bugged out and miserable. That logic is punitive and KILLs new MMOs.

Pretty sure their vision is to make everyone suck as bad as templars. They don't mention us as weak in the road ahead like nightblades. So, they must think templars are balanced. Nightblades will be buffed up to our level, sorc and DK will be nerfed down. Then everyone will suck as much as we do and they will declare the game is balanced. YAY!

Ragekniv · June 2014

Why not add a GCD and make the skill cost more magicka!

It was Zenimax's failed response to the ninja nerf of Biting Jabs, you might get a kick out it!

FunkyBudda · June 2014

TheBull wrote: »

I think another round of tuning is needed. Why does NB stealth have a base cost of 463 but BE's base cost is 300? wtf?

if NB stealth have same cost increase effect as BE, I wouldn't mind they bump up the magicka cost...

Mortosk wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

Mortosk wrote: »

Vis wrote: »

Not to mention cost reduction not effecting the dam increase making it cost more like: +70% and not 50%. But I bet you tested that too Emohsnevar.

Sucks you got nerfed, but what you are experiencing is a small taste of what it is like to be a melee dps templar. All our skills cost insane amounts of magicka and we have no regeneration to speak of.

Again, where have I posted templars were OP and needed nerfs? In fact my comments have always been for buffing templars.

Just because one class is broken, it does not mean everyone should be bugged out and miserable. That logic is punitive and KILLs new MMOs.

Pretty sure their vision is to make everyone suck as bad as templars. They don't mention us as weak in the road ahead like nightblades. So, they must think templars are balanced. Nightblades will be buffed up to our level, sorc and DK will be nerfed down. Then everyone will suck as much as we do and they will declare the game is balanced. YAY!

Just make sure Temps, DKs, and Sorcs gang up on NBs later, payback!

SilverWF · June 2014

Vis wrote: »

Bugs bugs bugs ... is there anything this company can do without adding more bugs?

I think, they have too many subscribers and gonna lower this number asap ^^