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BE MAGICKA REGEN BUG AND IT'S +70% NOT +50%

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*EDIT: ZOS has already replied to my bug report and are creating a patch to fix the bugs. I realize now that I was too quick to judge ZOS's commitment to fix bugs. I am very impressed by how fast they have responded, and their sincerity has put my previous harsh statements to shame. Apologies to the devs and costumer service representatives.

Keep up the good work ZOS and my apologies again.*


If you are going to nerf BE with a 50% increase you MUST remove the magicka regen nerf (as you have already done in the tooltip). It was one or the other, and your removing the regen nerf from the tooltip is an admission you meant it to be ONLY the 50% increase.

My second bolt now costs over 450 magicka (that is with FULL light armor/trait reductions). The increase in cost is NOT affected by light armor passives making it closer to +78% increased cost and NOT +50%.
Edited by Vis on June 9, 2014 6:26PM
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  • Brutalis
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    Haha.. this guy ^^^^
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  • Vis
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    Brutalis wrote: »
    Haha.. this guy ^^^^

    Is it too much to ask for them to fix their bugs?
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  • Emohsnevar
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    Stop your whining Vis, I am also a sorc that uses bolt escape... But you must be one of those Streak morphs of the spell. My opinion it's a good fix.
  • Brutalis
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    Vis wrote: »
    Brutalis wrote: »
    Haha.. this guy ^^^^

    Is it too much to ask for them to fix their bugs?
    Is too much to ask to read existing threads?

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  • Vis
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    Emohsnevar wrote: »
    Stop your whining Vis, I am also a sorc that uses bolt escape... But you must be one of those Streak morphs of the spell. My opinion it's a good fix.

    Obviously you have yet to test it and see it has come with BOTH the regen nerf AND the 50% increase (which is not WAI). But I guess you did not bother reading the OP ... or the subject ... or the tooltip.
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  • Fairydragon3
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    Haha good, people were abusing this way to much, especially to get zoom across the map. i almost mistakenly reported some for hacking. This is a blink move and in no MMO oir any game is the Blink move allowed to be spammable
  • Emohsnevar
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    Uhhhh, Yes I tested it as soon as I logged in Vis! As soon as the server came up! Even used it while fighting to escape.
    Edited by Emohsnevar on June 9, 2014 4:27PM
  • Vis
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    Not to mention cost reduction not effecting the dam increase making it cost more like: +70% and not 50%. But I bet you tested that too Emohsnevar.
    Edited by Vis on June 9, 2014 4:35PM
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  • Vis
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    This change to Bolt Escape was so so so lazily implemented. Do they have anyone at ZOS that checks their work before publishing?
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  • crislevin
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    i see no problem pointing out the tooltip omitted magicka regen nerf.
    Edited by crislevin on June 9, 2014 4:37PM
  • Singular
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    Haha good, people were abusing this way to much, especially to get zoom across the map. i almost mistakenly reported some for hacking. This is a blink move and in no MMO oir any game is the Blink move allowed to be spammable

    It's a poor change. Now Bolt Escape functions as "move slightly to the left and don't have mana regen." In other words BE should be renamed as "Die Over There."

    The OP is right - this is ridiculous.
    Edited by Singular on June 9, 2014 4:38PM
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  • Emohsnevar
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    Vis wrote: »
    Not to mention cost reduction not effecting the dam increase making it cost more like: +70% and not 50%. But I bet you tested that too Emohsnevar.

    As I stated earlier I don't use the STREAK morph of Bolt Escape like you do.. Of course I can't test that. But as I stated before, Streak is broken anyway and it needed this fix!

    Did you not read my earlier posts.

  • Vis
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    It's the same dam nerf to BOTH morphs man! What do you mean you can't test it? It's very simple math. And how can you call something broken if you yourself do not use it? Or even have a clue about how morphs work?

    How is streaking away not broken when lightning ball away (with the shields) is okay? That's just too funny.
    Edited by Vis on June 9, 2014 4:41PM
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  • seitekisaki
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    If the magicka regen nerf is there then yea that is a good point(unless it was intended and the tool tip was unchecked), but I don't think people should post while they're angry.
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    IF the mana cost is going to IGNORE magicka reduce equipment/passives (which makes this spell a +70% mana cost nerf) I want my magicka regen BACK.


    Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
    Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
    Disable abilities while holding block.
    Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
    Remove PVP AoE CAP. It is ruining Cyrodiil.
    Fix/Remove Forward Camps. They are ruining Cyrodiil.
    Impenetrability needs to REDUCE CRIT DAMAGE. Not negate entire builds.
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  • TheBull
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    LOL welcome to ESO. I know it must be a shock after playing Sorc Scrolls Online.

    It cost 400 magicka for NB stealth too. I can't believe you guys got away with BE for so long.

    Edited by TheBull on June 9, 2014 4:47PM
  • FunkyBudda
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    Vis wrote: »
    FOR GOD SAKES FIX YOUR DAM GAME ZOS!!!

    If you are going to nerf BE with a 50% increase you MUST remove the magicka regen nerf (as you have already done in the tooltip). It was one or the other, and your removing the regen nerf from the tooltip is an admission you meant it to be ONLY the 50% increase.

    My second bolt now costs over 450 magicka (that is with FULL light armor/trait reductions).

    Bugs bugs bugs ... is there anything this company can do without adding more bugs?

    hmm,

    is it really a "bug' or just another one of their ninja nerfs...

  • Vis
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    Bug unless otherwise
    FunkyBudda wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    FOR GOD SAKES FIX YOUR DAM GAME ZOS!!!

    If you are going to nerf BE with a 50% increase you MUST remove the magicka regen nerf (as you have already done in the tooltip). It was one or the other, and your removing the regen nerf from the tooltip is an admission you meant it to be ONLY the 50% increase.

    My second bolt now costs over 450 magicka (that is with FULL light armor/trait reductions).

    Bugs bugs bugs ... is there anything this company can do without adding more bugs?

    hmm,

    is it really a "bug' or just another one of their ninja nerfs...

    Bug unless otherwise stated.

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  • Vis
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    TheBull wrote: »
    LOL welcome to ESO. I know it must be a shock after playing Sorc Scrolls Online.

    It cost 400 magicka for NB stealth too. I can't believe you guys got away with BE for so long.

    If you want it to be on par with stealth, than with all your armor cost reductions going into stealth SHOULD cost:

    446 magicka AND come with a -50% magicka regen for 4 seconds.

    Then you can welcome me to your world.
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  • Vis
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Welcome to the world of the Nightblade. Enjoy your stay.

    Shadow Cloak must come with no damage increase or debuff removal AND:

    Cost 446 magicka AND come with a -50% magicka regen for 4 seconds.

    Then you can welcome me to your world.
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  • Vis
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    I'm glad they added an animation so our opponents can see how long our debuff is up too. Very smart ZOS.
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  • Rylana
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    Vis wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Welcome to the world of the Nightblade. Enjoy your stay.

    Shadow Cloak must come with no damage increase or debuff removal AND:

    Cost 446 magicka AND come with a -50% magicka regen for 4 seconds.

    Then you can welcome me to your world.

    That is exactly what it does. The DOT removal doesnt work, it costs over 400, its broken by DOT damage, and the damage increase passive from stealth works maybe 1/4 of the time.

    Get with the times, nightblades been dealing with hardships for months, im sorry you relied on a one trick pony build while we adapted to make our profession work.

    Problem?

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  • stungateb14_ESO
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    BE needed to be hit and hit hard you cant have a pvp based game with outcomes based on an "I win" skill or in this case a "I deny you a win" skill.
  • Vis
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Vis wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Welcome to the world of the Nightblade. Enjoy your stay.

    Shadow Cloak must come with no damage increase or debuff removal AND:

    Cost 446 magicka AND come with a -50% magicka regen for 4 seconds.

    Then you can welcome me to your world.

    That is exactly what it does. The DOT removal doesnt work, it costs over 400, its broken by DOT damage, and the damage increase passive from stealth works maybe 1/4 of the time.

    Get with the times, nightblades been dealing with hardships for months, im sorry you relied on a one trick pony build while we adapted to make our profession work.

    Problem?

    So because one mechanic is broken all others should be too? Besides, where is your magicka regen nerf? Also, BE breaks all the time. Often the spell procs the cost without the teleport and other times is just stop working all together ... so bugs were already there bud.
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  • Aimelin
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    can all these baddie sorcs stop making QQ threads? sounds like you rerolled sorc just to BE all day

    reroll again baddies, the regen nerf & cost increase is fine, and im a sorc, learn to not depend on one skill please

    instead ppl need to be crying over resto NBs spamming funnel health all day & walking away with 100% hp

  • Rylana
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    How to play a sorcerer pre patch 1.1.4

    impulse impulse impulse crystal impulse impulse impulse... and losing......... bolt escape bolt escape bolt escape bolt escape bolt escape


    How to play a sorc post 1.1.4?

    Carefully managing how I attack, watching debuffs, ok theres the knock down, carefully putting out damage, there we go, now knockback, crap im losing, ok the negate is out, careful, hey look hes dead and i never needed BE at all.

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    Aimelin wrote: »
    can all these baddie sorcs stop making QQ threads? sounds like you rerolled sorc just to BE all day

    reroll again baddies, the regen nerf & cost increase is fine, and im a sorc, learn to not depend on one skill please

    instead ppl need to be crying over resto NBs spamming funnel health all day & walking away with 100% hp

    Sap essence is superior >_>
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  • Vis
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    Aimelin wrote: »
    reroll again baddies, the regen nerf & cost increase is fine, and im a sorc, learn to not depend on one skill please

    So because we want a skill to operate as ZOS intended we're baddies? They've added new bugs to the game and you think just because you're a lvl 18 pve sorc you can state it's all cool?
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  • magickats242cub18_ESO
    This is a pvp thing, right?
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