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Almost no visual difference - VR6 epic vs. VR6 normal light armor Barbaric style gear
Korereactor
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So I just created my first set of Barbaric style gear (light armor) yesterday. Out of curiosity, I decided to make a normal item just to see if there was any difference. The only difference I could see is a tiny bit more detail (sharper) on the chest part. That's it. No colors, extra detail, nothing. I know dyes are coming, but this is supposed to be EPIC. It should stand out quite a bit more. It does with the Dunmer style (my previous set). Why can't a much more rare piece of gear stand out? Is something wrong maybe? I mean, aside from a few more stats, why even make epic gear? Gotta say, very disappointed.
Here's a link to the comparison, see for yourself:
imgur.com/SjpKUxg
UPDATE: I'm also noticing the main difference in most styles from normal to epic is coloring, so adding dyes could end up making epic gear less special looking, especially if you can dye normal or fine quality gear.
Edited by Korereactor on June 8, 2014 4:43PM Here's a link to the comparison, see for yourself:
imgur.com/SjpKUxg
UPDATE: I'm also noticing the main difference in most styles from normal to epic is coloring, so adding dyes could end up making epic gear less special looking, especially if you can dye normal or fine quality gear.
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reggielee✭✭✭✭agreed. the cosmetic options in this game are very limited and underwhelming.
on a side note, your char does look awesomeMama always said the fastest way to a man's heart is through his chest.0 -
Korereactor✭✭✭on a side note, your char does look awesome
Thanks!
Just to be clear - I do like the Barbaric style, and understand it's supposed to be a bit "weathered". My point though is that there needs to be more of a difference between epic and normal. I feel like I wasted my mats, because I like the Dunmer epic look much more.0 -
stabbykitteh✭✭✭✭It would be nice if the color variation on the trim was a bit more noticeable.
Personally I like barbaric because light / medium isn't weirdly shiney at higher levels. It's a trade-off I guess.0 -
Morostyle✭✭✭✭They are adding armor dye
http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/05/01/the-road-ahead---may-1st0 -
Korereactor✭✭✭They are adding armor dye
http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2014/05/01/the-road-ahead---may-1st
I mentioned that in my original post, that won't help the issue. If you dye a normal piece of crafted gear red, and dye an epic piece of crafted gear red, they'll still look the same. Epic should look different from normal.Edited by Korereactor on June 8, 2014 3:16PM0 -
Korereactor✭✭✭Yeah! 14 different racial motifs that change appearance as you level and can be combined in any number of ways is so limited! I'm underwhelmed!
And I love that - and love ESO. My concern is that there may be a bug or something with the Barbaric style, going from normal to epic. I know some of the other styles do have a noticeable change in appearance from normal to epic, but this one clearly doesn't.0 -
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Its not really that its that the different levels between them don't look different. A level 1 nord helm looks almost exactly the same as a level 50 nord helm but maybe just some slightly different colors. The textures are different but so small you can barely tell.
Also there is no difference if its the same ore your using. So like VR 1,2,3 are all going to be the same thing then it will change only slightly for 4,5,6 ect ect
Edited by ers101284b14_ESO on June 8, 2014 3:34PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Korereactor wrote: »Yeah! 14 different racial motifs that change appearance as you level and can be combined in any number of ways is so limited! I'm underwhelmed!
And I love that - and love ESO. My concern is that there may be a bug or something with the Barbaric style, going from normal to epic. I know some of the other styles do have a noticeable change in appearance from normal to epic, but this one clearly doesn't.
I have noticed that this is the case for the veteran motifs (Primal, Barbaric, Ancient Elf and Daedric). I think it's because the motif itself is supposed to be rare enough that they're supposed to be better looking even without upgrades. Although I would like to see similar changes to the ones that you get with regular motifs between quality levels.----
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Korereactor✭✭✭I have noticed that this is the case for the veteran motifs (Primal, Barbaric, Ancient Elf and Daedric). I think it's because the motif itself is supposed to be rare enough that they're supposed to be better looking even without upgrades. Although I would like to see similar changes to the ones that you get with regular motifs between quality levels.
Is it the same issue for Primal and Ancient Elf as well? I don't have those so can't test them. If it is, then what you say may be correct. That's unfortunate though.
Edited by Korereactor on June 8, 2014 3:41PM0 -
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✭✭✭Korereactor wrote: »I have noticed that this is the case for the veteran motifs (Primal, Barbaric, Ancient Elf and Daedric). I think it's because the motif itself is supposed to be rare enough that they're supposed to be better looking even without upgrades. Although I would like to see similar changes to the ones that you get with regular motifs between quality levels.
Is it the same issue for Primal and Ancient Elf as well? I don't have those so can't test them. If it is, then what you say may be correct. That's unfortunate though.
http://eso-fashion.com/blacksmithing-by-style/ Its based off ore not off level. Like all iron looks exactly the same which is level 1-10 same for the vet ranks.0 -
Korereactor✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Korereactor wrote: »I have noticed that this is the case for the veteran motifs (Primal, Barbaric, Ancient Elf and Daedric). I think it's because the motif itself is supposed to be rare enough that they're supposed to be better looking even without upgrades. Although I would like to see similar changes to the ones that you get with regular motifs between quality levels.
Is it the same issue for Primal and Ancient Elf as well? I don't have those so can't test them. If it is, then what you say may be correct. That's unfortunate though.
http://eso-fashion.com/blacksmithing-by-style/ Its based off ore not off level. Like all iron looks exactly the same which is level 1-10 same for the vet ranks.
I'm talking about normal vs. epic, not level. Other styles have differences from normal to epic. This one doesn't.Edited by Korereactor on June 8, 2014 3:48PM0 -
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✭The big difference for some armors is not normal - epic, but epic - legendary. I wear all breton-style cloth. The change to epic was noticeable, but applying a pile of dreugh wax was a dramatic difference.Snit AD Sorc
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Korereactor✭✭✭Well, if you look at this site...
eso-fashion.com/ancient-elf-shadowspun/
...it looks like, at least with the Ancient Elf style, the difference is mostly in the coloring. Problem with this is, when they add dyes, epics won't stand out anymore at all then. That's a really bad thing.Edited by Korereactor on June 8, 2014 4:07PM0 -
Korereactor✭✭✭The big difference for some armors is not normal - epic, but epic - legendary. I wear all breton-style cloth. The change to epic was noticeable, but applying a pile of dreugh wax was a dramatic difference.
Hmmm...anyone have a screenshot of light armor Barbaric legendary (VR6 or above)?Edited by Korereactor on June 8, 2014 4:40PM0 -
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Korereactor✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »
Light armor, sorry didn't specify earlier.Edited by Korereactor on June 8, 2014 4:40PM0 -
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✭✭✭Korereactor wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »
Cloth, sorry didn't specify earlier.
Same site just click under armor in the upper right hand side and find cloth
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Korereactor✭✭✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Korereactor wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »
Cloth, sorry didn't specify earlier.
Same site just click under armor in the upper right hand side and find cloth
No legendary Barbaric light armor though.0 -
Korereactor✭✭✭Anyone have a screenshot they could share for Barbaric legendary light armor, VR6 or above?0
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✭Its barbaric. Not much style to begin with, in fact, it looks the same from a level 1 newbie to a veteran 5 player.
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Aeradon✭✭✭✭✭agreed. the cosmetic options in this game are very limited and underwhelming.
on a side note, your char does look awesome
Couldn't agree more, OP's character is smoking.
On a side note, should the armours glow based on grade?Edited by Aeradon on June 10, 2014 9:26AMPeople keep telling me they're gonna buy me an ale. They never do.
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