ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »

HarryParatestes wrote: »

ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »

HarryParatestes wrote: »

OP, you should try out VR yourself and see how inferior it actually is compared to Talons. It needs to be aimed, takes about 2 seconds to hit and stun. It spreads enemies apart and does negligible damage. Spamming it is not an exploit, it's a sign of desperation. 30s cooldown is just plain unreasonable. Those irrational demands coupled with your insistence on the same debunked arguments as well calling people childish for disagreeing is the reason you are provoking insults. Textbook trolling

O well .... It's a shame you made a point but still had to place an insult in parenthesis - so close you were too - your first real point

So your saying it's not something that should be spammed as it is useless (I observed otherwise and others have admitted to it as well during this thread)
Despite this you think a nerf is unreasonable

Since you didn't read the posts discussing the cooldown I think 5 to 10 seconds is a good option

Others said greater magicka cost ( I don't like that as it takes it's panic button function away)

Another poster mentioned reducing it to only two (similar to the inhale nerf)

30 sec would be unreasonable not sure if that was an original thought but since the original post this was discussed

I don't know where you see insults or parentheses. Calling you out on your baiting methods is not an insult. Seems like projection kicking in again.

I did read the posts. You said 30s. Even 5 or 10s is ridiculous and you know it. Any cooldown past casting time is ridiculous and would destroy the smoothness of combat. "Useless" are your words. I said inferior compared to Talons. Big difference. It all boils down to you being upset that other classes have access to an AoE CC ability that doesn't even rival yours. Grow up!

Anyways I get that you're sour about the DK adjustments but why be so vindictive and try to ruin the game for others? Balancing is necessary. 10s VR cooldown is not balancing it's destroying a necessary CC ability every other class can rely on in tough situations. I hope you get over yourself and start seeing what's good for the game and all classes, not just yours,

Good job though creating a huge bitching thread over nothing. well played. bye

With a name like paratestes I am not surprised that you are childish and resorting to personal insults which are against CoC and not called for - time and again I have asked you to stop being rude and insulting - people who operate like you is what has ruined online communication

If someone disagrees with you they are a troll or any other random insult you can muster.

While the other trolls will laugh and agree with you the rest of us will sigh and remember a time when the internet was not like this

The pathetic thing about it is I would bet every dollar I have that in the real world you would be diminutive but hear your act with impunity and do nothing but insult .

I hope you find out why you are so angry and abusive when you don't get your way lest you become a tragic figure we hear about on the news

Who's insulting? Stay on topic please

Over 100 lols...

They're laughing at you not with you.

You are more irritating than the L2P'ers.

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As some other threads have cropped up there is a serious imbalance between swords , sword and board and bow as opposed to dress and stick.

The ability Volcanic Rune is prime example - with the passives maxed and with the ridiculous regen of LA this ability is available at will as often as is wanted and many actually just spam the ability over and over which is an AOE stun not snare like Talons.

This is OP beyond OP and needs to be nerfed ASAP .

No one has given one good reason not two . The many posts against have been
A) flame at myself and anyone else for suggesting it

a parallel with another ability as if that makes it ok (two wrongs don't make a right)

There is much wrong with the balance and it is imperative that issues like the OP nature of volcanic rune in the hands of a stick and dress build is one of the issues to address

NakedSnake wrote: »

I want the OP's next thread to be "Nerf Talons, Impulse and Combat Prayer-Enough Already".
Cooldowns for all, right OP? Do you agree or disagree?

Even though your being sarcastic if talons are OP then they should be nerfed . Shield bash was too OP it was nerfed - I had to change play style but I certainly didn't lose my mind.

Some reason this game has already demarcated on dress v armor lines and armor is the minority . I can't remember the lady time I passed armour in vet zones .

In my opinion posting should have a cooldown, post comment button needs nerfed badly.

Kililin wrote: »

In my opinion posting should have a cooldown, post comment button needs nerfed badly.

How about post limits. Force to put ALL gripes in daily post (me included) with 5 followups per day.

My experience in the sense of ESO community is this

If it wears a dress buff it - protect it - bay like rabid dogs at the idea of balancing it

If it wears armour nerf it into oblivion

This Volcanic Rune is the same as is other threads about OP light armour builds

Or OP magicka regen or OP sorcerers and DK dress wearers.

I sincerely hope that ESO gets the balance right before WoD because it wont last long if it doesn't

ZOS_LenaicR wrote: »

Please keep in mind that, per our Community Code of Conduct, it is never acceptable to insult/flame other members of the community, and that even heated discussions should remain constructive and civil.

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After a while it is hard to remain civil to someone who has created 5 nerf Sorcerer/staff/caster threads in a few days, all the while repeating the same opinion over and over.

4 of the current ones, and any additional threads created by the same poster related to the same argument should be immediatly locked.

Yankee wrote: »

ZOS_LenaicR wrote: »

Please keep in mind that, per our Community Code of Conduct, it is never acceptable to insult/flame other members of the community, and that even heated discussions should remain constructive and civil.

We would like to keep this discussion open, so we encourage everyone to please be respectful of one another’s opinions. Otherwise this thread will be locked.

After a while it is hard to remain civil to someone who has created 5 nerf Sorcerer/staff/caster threads in a few days, all the while repeating the same opinion over and over.

4 of the current ones, and any additional threads created by the same poster related to the same argument should be immediatly locked.

And by even saying this you are close to breaking the "Name Shaming" rule, which means you also can't call out ZOS "pet accounts" or the cousins and nephew's of the dev's for power abusing. You also can't call out cyberbullies or anyone really. This is the most orwellian set of policies like, ever.

Well that is another matter .

But what I'm hearing is it is hard for some to remain civil when they express an opinion contrary to theirs . While that might not be Orwellian it is frightening in a liberal democracy with free internet others opinions should be met with derision simply because it is contrary

Go figure

But let's hurry and start nerfing these dress builds

ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Kililin wrote: »

One constructive point: some people should not stop to take their medication.
For others the best medication won't help.

I think we should start name calling to get this thread locked.

Go for it I don't mind. After all it is digital communication not reality. Do your best or worst it only reflects poorly on you.

I am not quite convinced that this thread reflects poorly on me, do you understand what i mean?

Although i wouldnt mind if it did ;-)
Best part is ZOS employees declaring this as a discussion, fantastic...

How about we introduce a 5s cooldown to all abilities then? Would that make OP happy? /s

Cooldowns ruin the game. It would suck the life out of combat if you had to wait for cooldowns to come back up before using an ability again while mobs whale at you.

Look at what happened after the Puncturing Strikes ninja nerf. It hurt the game and the community. Devs acknowledged this and reverted it but increased magicka costs.

OP is upset about DKs getting nerfed and brought more in line with other classes He wants AoE CC to be DK exclusive. Blinded by rage he'll try anything to hurt other classes and therefore the game, even though DKs are still on top. That's the community's cancer. Players that can't see the greater good cause their tunnel vision and hypocrisy clouds their judgement.

Bottom line is cooldowns on any ability beyond casting time are detrimental to the game.

Nerf spam able AoE stun - no game has this ability that can be spammed.

There is a reason for this such an ability is silly and too overpowered .

You don't need to remove it just balance it .

ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »

@fleymark since your calling me out .... Let me clarify

If a toon can spam volcanic rune over and over for an entire battle with 3 mobs at vr7 level to the point where not one of them hits the player at all due to the ridiculous magicka regen and the very small cost of the ability then ...

That may not be intended
If that was intended than it is not exploiting flawed mechanics because they are not flaw but working as intended

If it is not working as intended than it is an exploit (please tell me you follow this)

It's the same as logging in and out to exploit a respawn of motifs.

But hey lets not get caught up in semantics. It is OP and it needs a

NEEEEEEEERF

Volcanic Rune costs 420 magicka to cast. Let's assume you've stacked magicka to the point where you have 2500, which is WELL into the soft cap, since our culprit spammer sorc is clearly fully specced into his clothy magicka build...and cause extremes are always fun to work with.

This allows our squishy sorc to cast this ability five times (as each cast takes 17.8% of his TOTAL resource pool...ie he is toast after he is OOM as he has no stamina based abilities, being a diehard clothy) for minimal damage (I don't have exact numbers but it should be between 300-400 damage) on a 1-sec cast and 1-sec activation.

The spell is also targeted. So our diehard clothy sorc needs to place this thing perfectly to continue being effective. Assuming our mobs started piggybacking each other, you could get three volcanic runes off before knocking them far enough away that you can now only hit 1-2 of them. I have never seen a triple stacked piggybacking group of mobs, so I'm going to assume they are standing normally spaced, which means you will get max 2 runes where they are at.

Now we have to look at composition. If the group is comprised of three melee you might get lucky. You can probably throw down another rune and kite then into it. If you have one or more ranged, you're screwed...you can't juggle mobs anymore.

With some serious kiting ability and no mistakes, you might be able to get the three meleers juggled...otherwise, good luck.

Bots aren't that good