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GeeYouWhy✭✭✭These number only account for what has been sold retail since launch and do not include any pre-orders or downloads from Zenimax. So although the number isn't big, it's likley only a fraction of what has been sold.Konrandir, Vampire Sorcerer0 -
Talmet✭✭✭Actually Zenimax sold 5.7 million copies directly which none of those charts have any way to monitor since it is a privately owned company and doesn't release financial information.
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Where did you hear that? Cause...Zeni actually sold over 50 million copies.
As you said, Zenimax is a privately owned company. Most of the time, when MMOs release sub/sales figures they do so at shareholder meetings.
Yeah, sometimes they do press releases...but we get most of the info on how many subs WoW/SWToR/etc have is by their quarterly shareholder meetings. Zenimax doesn't have quarterly shareholder meetings, therefore we won't get as much info.1 -
kasain✭✭✭.39 mil is nit that good. Ffxiv had over 1.2m at launch. Even after losing many, when ps4 came out it sits above 1m.0 -
Cimos✭✭✭LOL this is totally bogus. I would bet my ESO account on the fact that they sold well over this amount.0
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Mortosk✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »
1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.
If you look at the Global they break out the sales #'s by date.
Global First Ten Weeks (Units)
Week Ending Week Weekly Change Total
05th April 2014 1 253,316 N/A 253,316
12th April 2014 2 50,824 -79.9% 304,140
19th April 2014 3 27,175 -46.5% 331,315
26th April 2014 4 16,087 -40.8% 347,402
03rd May 2014 5 12,672 -21.2% 360,074
10th May 2014 6 11,922 -5.9% 371,996
17th May 2014 7 10,562 -11.4% 382,558
24th May 2014 8 9,027 -14.5% 391,585
Global Annual Summary (Units)
Year Yearly Change Total
2014 391,585 N/A 391,585
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✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »
1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.
If you look at the Global they break out the sales #'s by date.
Global First Ten Weeks (Units)
Week Ending Week Weekly Change Total
05th April 2014 1 253,316 N/A 253,316
12th April 2014 2 50,824 -79.9% 304,140
19th April 2014 3 27,175 -46.5% 331,315
26th April 2014 4 16,087 -40.8% 347,402
03rd May 2014 5 12,672 -21.2% 360,074
10th May 2014 6 11,922 -5.9% 371,996
17th May 2014 7 10,562 -11.4% 382,558
24th May 2014 8 9,027 -14.5% 391,585
Global Annual Summary (Units)
Year Yearly Change Total
2014 391,585 N/A 391,585
And since those numbers are completely fabricated, they mean... waaaait for it... nothing.----
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Mortosk✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.
If you look at the Global they break out the sales #'s by date.
Global First Ten Weeks (Units)
Week Ending Week Weekly Change Total
05th April 2014 1 253,316 N/A 253,316
12th April 2014 2 50,824 -79.9% 304,140
19th April 2014 3 27,175 -46.5% 331,315
26th April 2014 4 16,087 -40.8% 347,402
03rd May 2014 5 12,672 -21.2% 360,074
10th May 2014 6 11,922 -5.9% 371,996
17th May 2014 7 10,562 -11.4% 382,558
24th May 2014 8 9,027 -14.5% 391,585
Global Annual Summary (Units)
Year Yearly Change Total
2014 391,585 N/A 391,585
And since those numbers are completely fabricated, they mean... waaaait for it... nothing.
Well, what you said about them being pre-order only obviously isn't correct either.
I don't know how accurate they are, but I would think if they took the time to compile all this information and design a site with all this sales information about various games that gets over 12,000 hits a day, there might be some ring of truth to it, even if it is just an estimate.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/vgchartz.com"Now I stand, the lion before the lambs and they do not fear. They can not fear." --Arthas Menethil (aka, The Lich King)0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.
If you look at the Global they break out the sales #'s by date.
Global First Ten Weeks (Units)
Week Ending Week Weekly Change Total
05th April 2014 1 253,316 N/A 253,316
12th April 2014 2 50,824 -79.9% 304,140
19th April 2014 3 27,175 -46.5% 331,315
26th April 2014 4 16,087 -40.8% 347,402
03rd May 2014 5 12,672 -21.2% 360,074
10th May 2014 6 11,922 -5.9% 371,996
17th May 2014 7 10,562 -11.4% 382,558
24th May 2014 8 9,027 -14.5% 391,585
Global Annual Summary (Units)
Year Yearly Change Total
2014 391,585 N/A 391,585
And since those numbers are completely fabricated, they mean... waaaait for it... nothing.
Well, what you said about them being pre-order only obviously isn't correct either.
I don't know how accurate they are, but I would think if they took the time to compile all this information and design a site with all this sales information about various games that gets over 12,000 hits a day, there might be some ring of truth to it, even if it is just an estimate.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/vgchartz.com
As pointed out above, the Daily Mail let us know that aliens are among us. And they get millions of hits a day.
I can compile fake information too. But if I refuse to provide any sources for that information that makes me a fraud.----
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RianaTheBosmer✭✭✭All I know is I has 5 guilds ,and the amount of grayed out slots representing those who don't log in verses those in tha guild that are logged in is massive, the exodus hasn't begun, it's happened, it's done.
Unfortunately, I noticed that too. The guild I'm an RP officer for has more people who don't log in at all than those who do including the guild master.
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Selstad✭✭✭✭Ok, again; The numbers are estimates only. They literally stuck their finger up the end pipe, pulled it out and came up with a number. VGChartz has about 0 credibility as game market analysis goes and have several times been proven wrong. Their numbers are bogus and not even worth mentioning.0 -
Mortosk✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.
If you look at the Global they break out the sales #'s by date.
Global First Ten Weeks (Units)
Week Ending Week Weekly Change Total
05th April 2014 1 253,316 N/A 253,316
12th April 2014 2 50,824 -79.9% 304,140
19th April 2014 3 27,175 -46.5% 331,315
26th April 2014 4 16,087 -40.8% 347,402
03rd May 2014 5 12,672 -21.2% 360,074
10th May 2014 6 11,922 -5.9% 371,996
17th May 2014 7 10,562 -11.4% 382,558
24th May 2014 8 9,027 -14.5% 391,585
Global Annual Summary (Units)
Year Yearly Change Total
2014 391,585 N/A 391,585
And since those numbers are completely fabricated, they mean... waaaait for it... nothing.
Well, what you said about them being pre-order only obviously isn't correct either.
I don't know how accurate they are, but I would think if they took the time to compile all this information and design a site with all this sales information about various games that gets over 12,000 hits a day, there might be some ring of truth to it, even if it is just an estimate.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/vgchartz.com
As pointed out above, the Daily Mail let us know that aliens are among us. And they get millions of hits a day.
I can compile fake information too. But if I refuse to provide any sources for that information that makes me a fraud.
There's a difference with people who read fake tabloid news that talks about aliens for entertainment value or they have the IQ of a turnip and they really believe it (who knows?), and sites that aren't attempting to be fake.
You keep making libelous statements about this site, are you really that sure they just pulled these #'s out of a hat? They are low, I'll grant you that, I believe they aren't counting digital sales in these #'s and that is why they are low.
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ferzalrwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭ZOS needs to drastically improve their game if that's going to happen. Once the Exodus starts it is difficult to stop.
Unfortunately they don't seem to interested. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the talk there has to do with whether or not they're going to cancel the console release and what a F2P model will require. The initial bad press followed by no communication and slow reaction times to issues have almost shut the door on any sort of population recovery.
I understand that the game was a buggy pile of junk at launch but you could see the potential and enjoy it, side-stepping the occasional in-game cowpat. Granted it hasn't improved a whole lot since then and is actually drastically worse in some cases (pvp) but I don't understand some of the outrageous cannings it received in reviews.
Yes you could not rate this game highly numerically because it was a beta pushed out the door - unready. You simply cannot be complicit and give it a decent rating for that reason alone. But the negativity in reviews was relentless beyond the scores. Some of them were inaccurate - almost lies. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but... well... is it possible?
I've bagged this game internally absolutely and ZOS have been hopeless in fixing it but I would never have concocted reviews like some I've read. I was astounded. There's plenty to love about this game and the potential... the potential is delicious.
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✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.
If you look at the Global they break out the sales #'s by date.
Global First Ten Weeks (Units)
Week Ending Week Weekly Change Total
05th April 2014 1 253,316 N/A 253,316
12th April 2014 2 50,824 -79.9% 304,140
19th April 2014 3 27,175 -46.5% 331,315
26th April 2014 4 16,087 -40.8% 347,402
03rd May 2014 5 12,672 -21.2% 360,074
10th May 2014 6 11,922 -5.9% 371,996
17th May 2014 7 10,562 -11.4% 382,558
24th May 2014 8 9,027 -14.5% 391,585
Global Annual Summary (Units)
Year Yearly Change Total
2014 391,585 N/A 391,585
And since those numbers are completely fabricated, they mean... waaaait for it... nothing.
Well, what you said about them being pre-order only obviously isn't correct either.
I don't know how accurate they are, but I would think if they took the time to compile all this information and design a site with all this sales information about various games that gets over 12,000 hits a day, there might be some ring of truth to it, even if it is just an estimate.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/vgchartz.com
As pointed out above, the Daily Mail let us know that aliens are among us. And they get millions of hits a day.
I can compile fake information too. But if I refuse to provide any sources for that information that makes me a fraud.
There's a difference with people who read fake tabloid news that talks about aliens for entertainment value or they have the IQ of a turnip and they really believe it (who knows?), and sites that aren't attempting to be fake.
You keep making libelous statements about this site, are you really that sure they just pulled these #'s out of a hat? They are low, I'll grant you that, I believe they aren't counting digital sales in these #'s and that is why they are low.
I'm not making libelous statements about anything.
That site is providing numbers without citing a single source for those numbers. What am I to conclude?----
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Mortosk✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.
If you look at the Global they break out the sales #'s by date.
Global First Ten Weeks (Units)
Week Ending Week Weekly Change Total
05th April 2014 1 253,316 N/A 253,316
12th April 2014 2 50,824 -79.9% 304,140
19th April 2014 3 27,175 -46.5% 331,315
26th April 2014 4 16,087 -40.8% 347,402
03rd May 2014 5 12,672 -21.2% 360,074
10th May 2014 6 11,922 -5.9% 371,996
17th May 2014 7 10,562 -11.4% 382,558
24th May 2014 8 9,027 -14.5% 391,585
Global Annual Summary (Units)
Year Yearly Change Total
2014 391,585 N/A 391,585
And since those numbers are completely fabricated, they mean... waaaait for it... nothing.
Well, what you said about them being pre-order only obviously isn't correct either.
I don't know how accurate they are, but I would think if they took the time to compile all this information and design a site with all this sales information about various games that gets over 12,000 hits a day, there might be some ring of truth to it, even if it is just an estimate.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/vgchartz.com
As pointed out above, the Daily Mail let us know that aliens are among us. And they get millions of hits a day.
I can compile fake information too. But if I refuse to provide any sources for that information that makes me a fraud.
There's a difference with people who read fake tabloid news that talks about aliens for entertainment value or they have the IQ of a turnip and they really believe it (who knows?), and sites that aren't attempting to be fake.
You keep making libelous statements about this site, are you really that sure they just pulled these #'s out of a hat? They are low, I'll grant you that, I believe they aren't counting digital sales in these #'s and that is why they are low.
I'm not making libelous statements about anything.
That site is providing numbers without citing a single source for those numbers. What am I to conclude?
Don't worry, I don't work for vgachartz, and I'm not going to sue you.
But, if you are interested, this is the methodology they used to estimate sales data, seems pretty skewed towards retail #'s:
http://www.vgchartz.com/methodology.php"Now I stand, the lion before the lambs and they do not fear. They can not fear." --Arthas Menethil (aka, The Lich King)1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »nerevarine1138 wrote: »
1) Those are pre-order numbers only.
2) They don't cite a source, and since Zenimax hasn't released those numbers, that means they're making them up.
If you look at the Global they break out the sales #'s by date.
Global First Ten Weeks (Units)
Week Ending Week Weekly Change Total
05th April 2014 1 253,316 N/A 253,316
12th April 2014 2 50,824 -79.9% 304,140
19th April 2014 3 27,175 -46.5% 331,315
26th April 2014 4 16,087 -40.8% 347,402
03rd May 2014 5 12,672 -21.2% 360,074
10th May 2014 6 11,922 -5.9% 371,996
17th May 2014 7 10,562 -11.4% 382,558
24th May 2014 8 9,027 -14.5% 391,585
Global Annual Summary (Units)
Year Yearly Change Total
2014 391,585 N/A 391,585
And since those numbers are completely fabricated, they mean... waaaait for it... nothing.
Well, what you said about them being pre-order only obviously isn't correct either.
I don't know how accurate they are, but I would think if they took the time to compile all this information and design a site with all this sales information about various games that gets over 12,000 hits a day, there might be some ring of truth to it, even if it is just an estimate.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/vgchartz.com
As pointed out above, the Daily Mail let us know that aliens are among us. And they get millions of hits a day.
I can compile fake information too. But if I refuse to provide any sources for that information that makes me a fraud.
There's a difference with people who read fake tabloid news that talks about aliens for entertainment value or they have the IQ of a turnip and they really believe it (who knows?), and sites that aren't attempting to be fake.
You keep making libelous statements about this site, are you really that sure they just pulled these #'s out of a hat? They are low, I'll grant you that, I believe they aren't counting digital sales in these #'s and that is why they are low.
I'm not making libelous statements about anything.
That site is providing numbers without citing a single source for those numbers. What am I to conclude?
Don't worry, I don't work for vgachartz, and I'm not going to sue you.
But, if you are interested, this is the methodology they used to estimate sales data, seems pretty skewed towards retail #'s:
http://www.vgchartz.com/methodology.php
They have no basis to sue, but thanks for the reassurance.
And the methodology is skewed towards fabricated numbers. They do polls. They don't actually have access to hard data, so they do polls, and they don't reveal their actual polling methodology.
Made. Up. Numbers.----
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Munku✭✭✭If I used those links in any paper I wrote at university I would get an F. There is no real indication where the numbers came from and too many parts of sales are missing.
When citing something, especially numbers, always ask yourself how it would be perceived academically. If it wouldn't work in a paper, it should not be used.0 -
jpp✭✭✭The numbers there are really strange and looks like fabricated.
- there was never a Steam downloads - but it is listed.
- the first week starts at 5 may while I started to play 31 April and uploaded game a bit ealier - so looks all presales are missing
- ZOS never published their web site downloads
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Kiash✭✭✭Here's a helpful tip about VGchartz: They only report physical copies, all they have available on ESO is pre-orders, and their numbers are always wildly inaccurate. They report even WoW expansions and D3 selling only a fraction of the copies they actually sold.
Basically, it's a website that has no merit or place in any sort of viable attempt to quantify sales. Any time someone brings up VGchartz as a source, they are instantly discredited forever more in my eyes.0 -
isengrimb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »isengrimb16_ESO wrote: »I went to a website and found out Aliens already walk among us
Source
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535698/Aliens-walk-theyre-refusing-share-technology-change-warring-polluting-ways-claims-former-Canadian-defense-minister.html
Yes, folks, a fine example of what Canada has for politicians. Our best entertainment has always been Parliament. Too bad they evolved up to the level of teenagers when the cameras were put in, they were much more fun when they acted like drunken children.
ESO needs drunken children in the Nord areas, um.
Didn't a Japan Defense Minister, just a few years ago, tell the press that UFOs exists and that Japan is ready in case of attack??
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7150156.stm
But that's Japan. The Japanese have fun minds, judging from their entertainment.
Have you seen the stuff we put out? Bo-ring. Which is probably why our politicians are all nuts, they only grew up with one station on TV - the CBC. I'd go nuts too, if the only thing to watch was The Beachcombers.
(I grew up across the river from Detroit; we didn't need no stinkin' Beachcombers.)
When I think Canada these days, Bieber comes to mind. Unfortunately
I don't even know what he sounds like. I'm stuck in pre-90s classic rock/new wave lala land. Nelly Furtado was bad enough.
Don't blame us, blame the CRTC and it's culturally-protective (lol) "Canadian content" rules.
Edited by isengrimb16_ESO on June 5, 2014 5:33PM0 -
Kililin✭✭✭✭These numbers are not even discussion worthy. I am sure they sold way more.
Too bad they will never tell us how many, or how many subs.0 -
Azphira✭✭✭It sold so well it's going the way of defiance.
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/06/04/elder-scrolls-online-50-didnt-take-long/0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It sold so well it's going the way of defiance.
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/06/04/elder-scrolls-online-50-didnt-take-long/
They ran discounts the instant the pre-order was available. All online retailers do that.----
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Azphira✭✭✭I sometimes think Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf had a harem and all his offspring reside on these forums.0
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pahajuju✭✭And it's actually smart to drop the price, they could and should bring it down to 20 euros or so. It may bring on more people.EU server, and loosing interest in the game.0 -
Drasn✭✭✭✭The other day I came across a site that stated the total ESO sales (as of May 24th) were only .39 million. That includes all world wide sales in both digital and disk.
.39 million isn’t a whole lot. And unless those figures are incorrect ESO may not have much of a future at all.
Since launch (and even in beta) ESO has been plagued with problems. However, I have seen improvements worthy of a “thumbs-up”. And with that I have been inviting others I know to join in.
I haven’t given up my faith in ZOS / Bethesda simply because of what has been put out in the past. The entire Elder Scrolls chain has been awesome for me, and I can only hope that ESO will be just as equal, if not more.
ESO has the potential to be one of the greatest MMOs ever created. We just have to have some patients. As the old saying goes “Rome wasn’t built in a day”.
Despite it’s downfalls (and sometimes poor customer support) ESO is still a great concept with a great staff.
Every day I hear how people are quitting. I wish them well. Personally I’m in it for the long haul. I am hoping for good things ahead. I want those numbers to rise so that we can claim the title “king of the hill”. It can happen.
Who's with me?
I don't work in the medical field.0 -
whatever amount has been sold, they lost many people after 1. month and another batch after 2. month
looking at my 5 guilds ... out of around 1400 people just about 100 are playing now frequently .. still decreasingEdited by andreas.rudroffb16_ESO on June 5, 2014 6:30PM0 -
BitWise✭✭http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/01/09/forbes-eso-subscription-model-a-compounding-factor-to-risk/ and here http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/02/predicting-the-biggest-disaster-of-2014-the-elder-scrolls-online/ Pathetic? naa you just have another cup of coffee and have yourself a good day.
I have irrefutable proof that this Forbes blogger is wrong:
I quit playing the game because it was not fun, NOT because of the subscription. So, ESO will go F2P not because people won't pay subscriptions, but because the game wasn't fun. Same thing that happened to SWTOR.
Also, an interesting bit of trivia...when I clicked on the Forbes link to read the article, I was greeted with a popup add for ESO. >.<
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