AltusVenifus wrote: »

well that is a tough build to max DPS on because you won't have the magicka regen to pump out a lot of class skills. Melee crit should be your focus, impale, concealed weapon are based of melee crit. Other than that make sure you are weapon canceling and closing the distance to burn through your magicka of weapon crit skills, then use the knockback from stamina to kite.

What? Shadow, not assassin, and I use a bow. I don't have any melee abilities.

Hamfast wrote: »

david271749 wrote: »

AltusVenifus wrote: »

well that is a tough build to max DPS on because you won't have the magicka regen to pump out a lot of class skills. Melee crit should be your focus, impale, concealed weapon are based of melee crit. Other than that make sure you are weapon canceling and closing the distance to burn through your magicka of weapon crit skills, then use the knockback from stamina to kite.

What? Shadow, not assassin, and I use a bow. I don't have any melee abilities.

in the scheme of things there are stamina based attacks (Melee and bow) and Magicka based attacks (Staves and Class abilities) melee Crits (Stamina based) also effect Bow damage...

Ok. That makes more sense than the previous comment, but it still doesn't help much. I'm ranged dps, so I won't be closing distance. He also mentioned assassin abilities that I don't have. I'm looking for advice on changes I need to make to my build without changing shadow/bow. Advice on which abilities to use is appreciated too.

thomas.k.grayb14_ESO wrote: »

With the current state of things, relying primarily on your bow for damage is gonna get shaky real soon. You may want to bump up some of your other skill lines and for overall effectiveness while still maintaining the bow/shadow base.

Volcanic rune is a good CC spell in the mages guild line and works wonders for keeping you from being overwhelmed.

One thing that would help is if you would specify exactly where you believe the issue is with your build or where you are finding yourself having problems. It would be easier then for us to give insight.

Well, that's hard to explain. It feels like I'm just not doing as much damage as I'd like. I'll definitely try out volcanic rune. I've seen some people complaining about that one being too strong. Let me find a way to post my exact build. That might help.

I'll take screenshots and post when I get home too.

Just one thing: I would make sure, dark shades works. Last time I tried the unmorphed version, it lost aggro as soon as I attacked something, so no use for tanking at all. Could be different for the morph.

Edit: I think this will be fixed somewhen. Just until then I'm not sure of how useful the shades are.

Lalaeith wrote: »

Just one thing: I would make sure, dark shades works. Last time I tried the unmorphed version, it lost aggro as soon as I attacked something, so no use for tanking at all. Could be different for the morph.

Edit: I think this will be fixed somewhen. Just until then I'm not sure of how useful the shades are.

Dark Shades isn't meant as a pet-tank ability. It's extremely useful for the damage reduction alone, and you get a bit of extra damage out of the shades too.

As to the overall build, OP: looks good to me, but you won't know until you try.

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yiasemi wrote: »

I have a medium armor dw nord nb and I just 2 shotted (well 3 if you count the buff) Doshia. I'd say NBs are doing fine lol. (I'm still recovering from the shock).
Sneak, Shadow cloak, Surprise Attack, Killers Blade, Sudden Silence as Doshia is rather dead. Mr Bal intones you have failed me, and Merrick says ow my head or whatever. I am too surprised to move. Finally I managed a donkey guffaw of disbelief that I haven't uttered since the last time I was married. This fight took me 5 levels with a similar character 2 months ago. I'd say laugh like a donkey and reap half of Tamriel. It's harvesting time.

Isnt Doshia level 10 or something?
Now i dont want to sound an ass and tell you get to VR12 but... a level 10 encounter doesnt really count.

Last I heard she has also been majorly nerfed. She does not even summon the healing spheres anymore.

In fact if you are fast enough I think you can kill her before she turns. Accidently happened to me in beta too.

I am a Woodelf Nightblade Shadow with bow and dualwield. Stamina build that works:

I wear three pieces of jewelry with reduce stamina cost of skills. Combined with a very high stamina regeneration I can keep using alot of stamina skills.

Basic passive skills:

* Racial Skill 'Vigor' (9% more stamina regen in combat)
* Medium Armor Skills 'Dexterity' and 'Windwalker' (Increase critical strike and stamina regen in combat)

Strategy I use with bow:

* Bow Skills (all morphed):
- 'Draining shot' (Knock back + disorient + snare)
- 'Bombard' (For crowd control; immobilizes targets 2 seconds)
- 'Scorched Earth' (Area damage to a group of immobilized targets)
* Shadow Skills (all morphed):
- 'Concealed Weapon' (Dealing high melee damage for close combat)
- 'Dark Cloak' (To get out of the area; invisible for 2.5 seconds)

Using all the shadow passives will grant you another huge bonus on stamina recovery when you use a Shadow skill. First I use the (stamina) bow skills. Those skills keep a group immobilized while doing damage to the group. When the stamina runs low, I switch to dealing damage with the magicka based concealed weapon skill. This usually kills the first target of a group, while it will regenerate the stamina about halfway. After that I can use concealed weapon for high damage or draining shot to interupt or move enemies away from me.
I always leave half my magicka around, so when I get too low on health I can use Dark Cloak 2 or 3 times, which is enough to get far away and prevent death. In group dungeons, the Dark Cloak makes enemies stop chasing me. This is usefull if the tank fails or everyone else is high on health.

Strategy I use with Dual Wield:

I use dual daggers with deal x magic damage and recover x stamina enchantment. While attacking I will keep receiving alot of stamina. Combined with the high stamina regeneration and reduce stamina cost jewelry I can keep using those DW skills. One skill I use is 'Blood Craze' which returns health. Using that skill every 8 seconds keeps me healing up for free.
Another skill I use is 'Heated Blades'. This blocks all melee damage from one target for 4 seconds, while my own next attack hits harder.



On mages and archers I pump out 10-20 draining shots in a row, with normal shots in between. They keep getting interrupted and die fast.

On melee units I use dual wield and heated blades, so they can not do any damage. Meanwhile I keep dealing damage ánd healing myself with the blood craze skill in between if a second enemy is hitting me from behind.

On groups I try the crowd control and area damage. If it fails, I slip away with dark cloak. I try to kill at least one target, to make the group smaller for my next round of attack.