Nerf Volcanic Rune - Enough Already ( ZOS tested this and found it to be working as intended)

PBpsy · June 2014

If one is dumb enough to step into the small blue circle then one deserves to be spamed with it until he gets to 60% health. It's not like you could kill somebody in less than half an hour with it.

GrimCyclone · June 2014

Opioid wrote: »

As long as Zenimax continues to design questing and dungeon content around requiring spammable AoE damage CC abilities, they need to leave Volcanic rune as is.

See, people keep making these obvious reasons why they need to leave it the hell alone. It's like a bombardment. The opposition has no ground to stand on. We win. They nerf it, they're idiots.

That won't surprise me.

Stratti · June 2014

I was talking about a Nerf for PVE it is astounding that this ability is able to be used spamming on player .... C'mon really people is that what we want

FunkyBudda · June 2014

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

GrimCyclone wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

I don't think this game can handle another nerf to the last good PvE crowd CC ability.

Amen. This hits everybody.
Not only that but people like V. Runes.
It's fun. All their nerfs are doing is taking fun away.

Agree and i don`t even slot it as i don`t need it...

I get nerfs to OP things like banner/magma armor and maybe even the mage teleport but the rune is available to everyone so why nerf it?

If its the stamina dudes trying to nerf everything to their level please ZENIMAX learn to say NO or even a *** you! to them as melee has a lot of avoidance they can slot if they so desire... magical builds have none so need more CC.

so nerfing class defining abilities is valid regardless of reason? But skills that are shared by all classes should not be touched, oh that's fair...

Tannakaobi · June 2014

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

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Although I could not care less about the subject in this thread, this comment made me laugh. Why would care either way? There is no way you would spam this skill in PVE unless you really were brain dead. So the 'nerf' that was requested would not even be noticeable to PVE players.

You my friend get a LOL!

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

Stratti · June 2014

FunkyBudda wrote: »

alexandru987eb17_ESO wrote: »

GrimCyclone wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

I don't think this game can handle another nerf to the last good PvE crowd CC ability.

Amen. This hits everybody.
Not only that but people like V. Runes.
It's fun. All their nerfs are doing is taking fun away.

Agree and i don`t even slot it as i don`t need it...

I get nerfs to OP things like banner/magma armor and maybe even the mage teleport but the rune is available to everyone so why nerf it?

If its the stamina dudes trying to nerf everything to their level please ZENIMAX learn to say NO or even a *** you! to them as melee has a lot of avoidance they can slot if they so desire... magical builds have none so need more CC.

so nerfing class defining abilities is valid regardless of reason? But skills that are shared by all classes should not be touched, oh that's fair...

The nerf is for balance, it was never intended as a spam ability to control mobs for 30secs only pausing to reapply dots - I've seen to LA sorcerers doing this

I mean really most non DKs agreed with shield bash nerf this is much worse

GrimCyclone · June 2014

Tannakaobi wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

Although I could not care less about the subject in this thread, this comment made me laugh. Why would care either way? There is no way you would spam this skill in PVE unless you really were brain dead. So the 'nerf' that was requested would not even be noticeable to PVE players.

You my friend get a LOL!

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

I hate to break it to you, but giving him an LOL only gives his user rank points. LOL isn't a bad thing. Just because you guys want to think it is. So keep on LOLing. I like points.

babylon · June 2014

Can we do a citizen's arrest here on the OP?

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · June 2014

ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »

This ability is being exploited by players in LA with serious magicka regen and endurance to spam this over and over as part of a rotation . This needs a cooldown.

I was next to a V10 that had this on a 4 second rotation constantly juggling mobs.

It is ridiculous and makes the game unbalanced for non magicka based classes.

Please fix this

I bet you play a DK Vampire* that gets kicked nowadays by people who are exploring abilities out of their main class line.

What's next? Make Fighter guild abilities not spammable, because (after 1.2) going to kick the vampires back to their graves?

Huhuhu. Trolls like you are ruining the game since Beta.

(edit :you do actually play a Vampire DK. according to your earlier posts elsewhere. HYPOCRISY to a new level....... )

Mends_from_Shadows · June 2014

If you think an ability being used repeatedly by someone who has the equipment and stats to spam it is an exploit... you might be a moron.

Kililin · June 2014

Ridiculous OP, nerf threads without statistics, and detailed explanation and comparison should be worth an infraction. I just lost a few braincells and to much time... I dont even want to argue against this post, in fact i dont even care if they nerf it, but its just stupid.

Tannakaobi · June 2014

GrimCyclone wrote: »

Tannakaobi wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

Although I could not care less about the subject in this thread, this comment made me laugh. Why would care either way? There is no way you would spam this skill in PVE unless you really were brain dead. So the 'nerf' that was requested would not even be noticeable to PVE players.

You my friend get a LOL!

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming]

I hate to break it to you, but giving him an LOL only gives his user rank points. LOL isn't a bad thing. Just because you guys want to think it is. So keep on LOLing. I like points.

haha! No ***... The reason is because I don't disagree with him. I just don't understand the reasoning. So I don't want to agree even though I do.. you get me?

Stratti · June 2014

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »

This ability is being exploited by players in LA with serious magicka regen and endurance to spam this over and over as part of a rotation . This needs a cooldown.

I was next to a V10 that had this on a 4 second rotation constantly juggling mobs.

It is ridiculous and makes the game unbalanced for non magicka based classes.

Please fix this

I bet you play a DK Vampire that gets kicked nowadays by people who are exploring abilities out of their main class line.

What's next? Make Fighter guild abilities not spammable, because (after 1.2) going to kick the vampires back to their graves?

Huhuhu. Trolls like you are ruining the game since Beta.

I beg your pardon.....

I play a dk sword and board tank with a second spec bow.
I only PvP for fun...
And instead of reading the post like so many of you kiddies ... I am talking about an AOE exploit and a cool down timer that should already be there to be fair.

I am not going to repeat what I have said above. It needs a nerf plain and simple.

And you need to learn to read before responding

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · June 2014

ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Simple question - do you think a mass cc ability should be spam able for the duration of a 45 second fight ? SPAMMABLE

THINK ABOUT IT

You play a DK Vampire according to earlier posts. Enough said.

babylon · June 2014

This thread is now about cheese wheels.

Stratti · June 2014

Kililin wrote: »

Ridiculous OP, nerf threads without statistics, and detailed explanation and comparison should be worth an infraction. I just lost a few braincells and to much time... I dont even want to argue against this post, in fact i dont even care if they nerf it, but its just stupid.

...
Since you don't bother to read the explanation provided

I obey served to different sorcerers spamming volcanic rune on mobs of 3 .
They did this by having the regen etc to keep it up while popping dots in between
I observed this for a while at least 5 pulls where the mobs didn't touch the ground and where dps down a little slower but still faster than melee
The ability needs a cool down perhaps 30sec to avoid this exploit which by the way would be perfect for a bot

But hey it's a stupid nerf

Stratti · June 2014

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Simple question - do you think a mass cc ability should be spam able for the duration of a 45 second fight ? SPAMMABLE

THINK ABOUT IT

You play a DK Vampire according to earlier posts. Enough said.

?
Kids don't read these days they just post their opinion even if it has nothing to do with the nerf.

Bye troll boy

Opioid · June 2014

It doesn't need a nerf. It's one of the only useful AoE CC abilities that doesn't rely on Ultimate that exist in this game.

I would support nerfing it once they decide to also nerf groups of 5-10 mobs in dungeons to prevent them from wrecking the party due to lack of other effective AoE CC.

Birfreben_Kinghelred · June 2014

No cooldowns, maybe a target cap?

Stratti · June 2014

Nah target cap wouldn't stop the exploit

eNumbra · June 2014

You said you wouldn't repeat yourself yet you won't go away.

GrimCyclone · June 2014

Tannakaobi wrote: »

GrimCyclone wrote: »

Tannakaobi wrote: »

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

Yay! More nerfs because of pvp idiots.

Although I could not care less about the subject in this thread, this comment made me laugh. Why would care either way? There is no way you would spam this skill in PVE unless you really were brain dead. So the 'nerf' that was requested would not even be noticeable to PVE players.

So what you have done is read 'nerf' and hit your keyboard in rage and then had the cheek to call PVP players idiot's when you have clearly just shown a case of idiocy.

You my friend get a LOL!

I hate to break it to you, but giving him an LOL only gives his user rank points. LOL isn't a bad thing. Just because you guys want to think it is. So keep on LOLing. I like points.

haha! No ***... The reason is because I don't disagree with him. I just don't understand the reasoning. So I don't want to agree even though I do.. you get me?

No, i don't get it.
I think it's time for you to stop posting all together.
Cancel your account.

Just kidding. Here's come ice cream.

kitsinni · June 2014

Since when is it an "exploit" every time someone uses a skill in a way someone thinks it shouldn't be used? There is no exploit that is what the skill does and how it is used. Is it an exploit that you can spam Stamina skills because you are stamina based?

Kililin · June 2014

ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Kililin wrote: »

Ridiculous OP, nerf threads without statistics, and detailed explanation and comparison should be worth an infraction. I just lost a few braincells and to much time... I dont even want to argue against this post, in fact i dont even care if they nerf it, but its just stupid.

...
Since you don't bother to read the explanation provided

I obey served to different sorcerers spamming volcanic rune on mobs of 3 .
They did this by having the regen etc to keep it up while popping dots in between
I observed this for a while at least 5 pulls where the mobs didn't touch the ground and where dps down a little slower but still faster than melee
The ability needs a cool down perhaps 30sec to avoid this exploit which by the way would be perfect for a bot

But hey it's a stupid nerf

It is not a sorcerer skill. (If you call every class with robe and staff sorc, stop it.)
Nightblade can spam it even more.
There are no cooldowns on skills in eso.
I dont get what you are saying, it makes no sense, like not at all.

Stratti · June 2014

Exploit I think they have defined it somewhere. If you find a way to combine abilities to achieve an outcome that wasn't intended that is generally an exploit.
So if by virtue of class abilites and also guild abilities you can spam AoE CC while applying dps so that you can clean up mobsx3 very easily without breaking a sweat then ...

That could be an exploit in the eyes of ZOS... For me it is clearly an exploit as you are roflclearing

Kililin · June 2014

ok i c, you are trolling 9/10

Tannakaobi · June 2014

GrimCyclone wrote: »

Just kidding. Here's come ice cream.

As we have moved to random did you know Dolphins *** people?

http://askmenanswers.com/what-should-you-do-if-you-get-***-by-a-dolphin/

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · June 2014

ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »

This ability is being exploited by players in LA with serious magicka regen and endurance to spam this over and over as part of a rotation . This needs a cooldown.

I was next to a V10 that had this on a 4 second rotation constantly juggling mobs.

It is ridiculous and makes the game unbalanced for non magicka based classes.

Please fix this

I bet you play a DK Vampire that gets kicked nowadays by people who are exploring abilities out of their main class line.

What's next? Make Fighter guild abilities not spammable, because (after 1.2) going to kick the vampires back to their graves?

Huhuhu. Trolls like you are ruining the game since Beta.

I beg your pardon.....

I play a dk sword and board tank with a second spec bow.
I only PvP for fun...
And instead of reading the post like so many of you kiddies ... I am talking about an AOE exploit and a cool down timer that should already be there to be fair.

I am not going to repeat what I have said above. It needs a nerf plain and simple.

And you need to learn to read before responding

What is the cooldown on the Burning Talons?

You should not trying to post on the same forum contradictory posts, because some people might read them all.

here I quote youself, of your "humble melee" character

Use petrify to cc . Use power bash to cc and then lead with power bash which disorients the mob hit whip which makes it stunned hit it again which does the follow up attack then finish with a power attack - you may have to follow up with another hit,

Reapply power bash on the petrified target rinse repeat.

And you complain about the Volcanic rune?

Opioid · June 2014

ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Exploit I think they have defined it somewhere. If you find a way to combine abilities to achieve an outcome that wasn't intended that is generally an exploit.
So if by virtue of class abilites and also guild abilities you can spam AoE CC while applying dps so that you can clean up mobsx3 very easily without breaking a sweat then ...

That could be an exploit in the eyes of ZOS... For me it is clearly an exploit as you are roflclearing

Sorry, but an exploit is not defined as a functioning game mechanic that you don't like.

Birfreben_Kinghelred · June 2014

ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Nah target cap wouldn't stop the exploit

Yeah it would, if you capped it at 2 targets, people would have to cast it multiple times to cc more than 2 mobs. Costing double the magicka per rotation on 2+ enemy's. Not only that but you'd have to think about positioning a bit more. it'd still be useful, just not "aoe grind all the mobs without ever getting hit" useful

This can also be used by nightblades to cc indefinitely with siphoning attacks.

It needs a nerf.

This time pvp will suffer from pve's abuse. :O