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Nerf Volcanic Rune - Enough Already ( ZOS tested this and found it to be working as intended)

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Stratti
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This ability is being exploited by players in LA with serious magicka regen and endurance to spam this over and over as part of a rotation . This needs a cooldown.

I was next to a V10 that had this on a 4 second rotation constantly juggling mobs.

It is ridiculous and makes the game unbalanced for non magicka based classes.

Please fix this

Edit:
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Hey there, everyone. Just wanted to let you know that we tested this ability internally, and it is working as intended.

Thank you ZoS - I must have been mistaken in what I saw . I really appreciate ZOS response to mine and others concerns . It is amazing to see that the company cares what people think even if they are in the minority in the thread

I am man enough to admit I was wrong but as a consumer of 10 years in MMO I am more impressed with a company that allows the discussion , tests the ability and responds

You have restored my faith amidst all the complaints here.

Once again thank you

Edit :
Still a reasonable amount of people posting here so here is my latest update
I have got it now on my abilities and I'm glad for this thread having this much impact . It wasn't a troll etc but I know there is a lot of that happening . At least we have a clear statement it is working as intended so there is no way they can nerf it . The ability certainly makes things easier and more fun but is OP in my view . My concern was that it was an exploit but after ZoS tested it they said working as intended. Given the response on the forum we can be sure they will not nerf it anytime soon

There will be some readers who don't know about this ability it's easy to get just level Mage guild and morph fire run. You can put point to reduce the cost as well.
  • AlexDougherty
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    Ok, a countdown sounds reasonable.

    But all the the classes are Magicka based, class abilities use Magicka for all classes.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • babylon
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    Wait, so you're saying nerf a skill, because you stat stamina.
  • eNumbra
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    Abilities are spammable because of magicka regens and synergies, therefore, nerf the abilities.

    LOGIC.
  • Stratti
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    Yes correct
    You need to nerf it because it is being exploited - an internal cooldown would work

    And think a little more - do we want a mass cc ability spam able - really - these guys are juggling the mobs for 45 sec plus.

    NERF
    Edited by Stratti on June 4, 2014 3:25PM
  • AlexDougherty
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    babylon wrote: »
    Wait, so you're saying nerf a skill, because you stat stamina.

    No, he's saying it gets used repeatedly and therefore gives one class an advantage. A cooldown would force the sorcs to use a variety of abilities. It's a bit like templars and Biting Jabs. It's either a cooldown or an increased magicka cost.
    People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
    Wizard's first rule
    Passion rules reason
    Wizard's third rule
    Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
    Wizard's fifth rule
    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
    Wizard's tenth rule
  • eNumbra
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    ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »
    Yes correct
    You need to nerf it because it is being exploited - an internal cooldown would work

    And think a little more - do we want a mass cc ability spam able - really - these guys are juggling the mobs for 45 sec plus.

    NERF

    You're exploiting my oxygen, get out.
  • GrimCyclone
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    Someone shut this guy up. He's trying to mess with the one skill us VR soloers can use for CC and group stun.
  • babylon
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    ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »
    Yes correct
    You need to nerf it because it is being exploited - an internal cooldown would work

    Nerf Puncture and give it a cooldown - it can be spammed. Nerf Arrow Spray and give it a cooldown - it can be spammed. Nerf Hidden Blade and give it a cooldown - it can be spammed.

    Am I doing it right?
    Edited by babylon on June 4, 2014 3:28PM
  • Stratti
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    AlexDougherty wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    Wait, so you're saying nerf a skill, because you stat stamina.

    No, he's saying it gets used repeatedly and therefore gives one class an advantage. A cooldown would force the sorcs to use a variety of abilities. It's a bit like templars and Biting Jabs. It's either a cooldown or an increased magicka cost.

    Increase won't be good
    As an oh no button bigger increase will be bad
    Exploiters will still find a work around with regen or pots or w/e
  • Rosveen
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    AlexDougherty wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    Wait, so you're saying nerf a skill, because you stat stamina.

    No, he's saying it gets used repeatedly and therefore gives one class an advantage. A cooldown would force the sorcs to use a variety of abilities. It's a bit like templars and Biting Jabs. It's either a cooldown or an increased magicka cost.
    Volcanic Rune isn't a class skill.
    Imperial Trading Company (PC EU)
  • Dayv
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    AlexDougherty wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    Wait, so you're saying nerf a skill, because you stat stamina.

    No, he's saying it gets used repeatedly and therefore gives one class an advantage. A cooldown would force the sorcs to use a variety of abilities. It's a bit like templars and Biting Jabs. It's either a cooldown or an increased magicka cost.

    It's not a sorc ability, anyone can use it
  • AZRainman
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    All these calls for nerfs drive players away and soon you will have only a handful of diehards to even play with. It's already a ghost town atmosphere in VR zones.

    Time to ask for counter buffs to beef up weak classes...nerfs are for masochistic fools.
  • Maverick827
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    I don't think this game can handle another nerf to the last good PvE crowd CC ability.
  • babylon
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    AlexDougherty wrote: »
    A cooldown would force the sorcs to use a variety of abilities.

    This is not a sorc ability...unless you're saying all the sorcs are using an ability outside of their class over and over because their own class skills suck so much :3
  • Leesha
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    AlexDougherty wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    Wait, so you're saying nerf a skill, because you stat stamina.

    No, he's saying it gets used repeatedly and therefore gives one class an advantage. A cooldown would force the sorcs to use a variety of abilities. It's a bit like templars and Biting Jabs. It's either a cooldown or an increased magicka cost.

    Except it is not a class ability. Every class has access to it and all of the regen that allows people to spam it.


  • Phantorang
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    AlexDougherty wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    Wait, so you're saying nerf a skill, because you stat stamina.

    No, he's saying it gets used repeatedly and therefore gives one class an advantage. A cooldown would force the sorcs to use a variety of abilities. It's a bit like templars and Biting Jabs. It's either a cooldown or an increased magicka cost.

    Which class is that? Oh, you think this is a Sorcerer ability, but its not, its a Mage Guild ability, available to everyone in the game.

    And the only useful group CC I can use as a Templar.
    Fimbulwinter Recruiting true Vikings | Campaigns score | EU PC
  • Thechemicals
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    No cooldowns please.
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  • GrimCyclone
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    Maverick827 wrote: »
    I don't think this game can handle another nerf to the last good PvE crowd CC ability.

    Amen. This hits everybody.
    Not only that but people like V. Runes.
    It's fun. All their nerfs are doing is taking fun away.
  • Sangeet
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    Maverick827 wrote: »
    I don't think this game can handle another nerf to the last good PvE crowd CC ability.

    Without it, NB Tanks would suck in PVE. I never found it used frequently in PVP, damage is too low, area is too small, can be avoided.

  • SwampRaider
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    Someone volcanic runed me to death. they non stopped spammed it+soul strike
    crystal fragments-volcanic rune-volcanic rune-volcanic rune-crystal fragments-soulstrike
    Edited by SwampRaider on June 4, 2014 3:37PM
    Character: Eros, Eros I I, The Paw of Woe
    Class: Templar Healer/MagWarden/ Stam Sorc
    Alliance: DC
    Campaign: Vivec (pc/na)
    Guardians of Daggerfall
  • Leesha
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    Phantorang wrote: »
    AlexDougherty wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    Wait, so you're saying nerf a skill, because you stat stamina.

    No, he's saying it gets used repeatedly and therefore gives one class an advantage. A cooldown would force the sorcs to use a variety of abilities. It's a bit like templars and Biting Jabs. It's either a cooldown or an increased magicka cost.

    Which class is that? Oh, you think this is a Sorcerer ability, but its not, its a Mage Guild ability, available to everyone in the game.

    And the only useful group CC I can use as a Templar.


    This has all been pointed out to him in his other post. He's angry because his tank build with shield isn't putting out enough dps to aoe through 4+ enemies.

    He's on a spiteful witch hunt to bring every other build in line with his.
  • Stratti
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    It's not available to all - it is an exploit that certain builds can take advantage.

    It's being spammed repeatedly by high regen builds that can do it 5-6 times to juggle mobs

    This is wrong and needs a nerf to a timer cooldown timer .
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    SwampRaider wrote: »
    Someone volcanic runed me to death. they non stopped spammed it+soul strike

    You're a PC. You have a brain. Move.
    NPCs choose not to move.

    Edited by GrimCyclone on June 4, 2014 3:37PM
  • babylon
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    SwampRaider wrote: »
    Someone volcanic runed me to death. they non stopped spammed it+soul strike
    crystal fragments-volcanic rune-volcanic rune-volcanic rune-crystal fragments-soulstrike

    And they're probably going to do it to you again Eros, you listed your character name in your sig.
  • FunkyBudda
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    Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »
    Yay! More nerfs because of pvp idiots.

    you mean those that cried about Bolt Escape for the nerf? If you can't fight them, join them. Whine and cry about one of their class defining skill to be nerfed so they can have a taste of their own medicine.
  • Leesha
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    ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »
    It's not available to all - it is an exploit that certain builds can take advantage.

    It's being spammed repeatedly by high regen builds that can do it 5-6 times to juggle mobs

    This is wrong and needs a nerf to a timer cooldown timer .

    It IS available to you, you yourself said you shouldn't have to use light armor and a staff to do what the sorcs do. Grow up!

  • SwampRaider
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    You're a PC. You have a brain. Move.
    NPCs choose not to move.

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    its hard to mvoe out of it especially getting spamemd by other abilities+ volcanic rune.

    80% of the time i can roll dodge out of the way, sometimes they just spam it right under my flopping body and it keeps on going
    Character: Eros, Eros I I, The Paw of Woe
    Class: Templar Healer/MagWarden/ Stam Sorc
    Alliance: DC
    Campaign: Vivec (pc/na)
    Guardians of Daggerfall
  • Reykice
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    GrimCyclone wrote: »
    Maverick827 wrote: »
    I don't think this game can handle another nerf to the last good PvE crowd CC ability.

    Amen. This hits everybody.
    Not only that but people like V. Runes.
    It's fun. All their nerfs are doing is taking fun away.
    Agree and i don`t even slot it as i don`t need it...

    I get nerfs to OP things like banner/magma armor and maybe even the mage teleport but the rune is available to everyone so why nerf it?

    If its the stamina dudes trying to nerf everything to their level please ZENIMAX learn to say NO or even a *** you! to them as melee has a lot of avoidance they can slot if they so desire... magical builds have none so need more CC.
  • Opioid
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    As long as Zenimax continues to design questing and dungeon content around requiring spammable AoE damage CC abilities, they need to leave Volcanic rune as is.
  • Stratti
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    Leesha wrote: »
    ss.ioannidisnrb18_ESO wrote: »
    It's not available to all - it is an exploit that certain builds can take advantage.

    It's being spammed repeatedly by high regen builds that can do it 5-6 times to juggle mobs

    This is wrong and needs a nerf to a timer cooldown timer .

    It IS available to you, you yourself said you shouldn't have to use light armor and a staff to do what the sorcs do. Grow up!

    Simple question - do you think a mass cc ability should be spam able for the duration of a 45 second fight ? SPAMMABLE

    THINK ABOUT IT
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