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Can we get third-person fixed now? *Updated*

Attorneyatlawl
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We need an FOV for third-person + a max camera zoom distance preference slider now that first-person mode has been given the fov slider, when I can't even zoom out far enough to keep a boss from taking up 1/3 of my screen as a melee'r or see more than 10 feet to my sides, that's a problem in both raids and pvp for situational awareness. I also have a relative who has been able to only play a little because she gets motion sick being so tightly in on her character while other MMO's have allowed her to zoom out enough that she's 100% fine with them.

EDIT: Also just to clarify since people seem to not understand what is being asked for here:

Allow us to zoom further away from behind the character while in 3rd-person view. Allow us to choose to center the camera instead of having it in an over-the-shoulder off-to-the-right position, over our character. Allow us to adjust FOV for the third-person camera.

These are all very much-needed changes that have been asked for just as long as FOV for first-person was, and I am disappointed to see that they didn't touch third-person's problems here especially when one of them was shared directly with first-person view.
Edited by Attorneyatlawl on June 4, 2014 1:08PM
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  • Svann
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    Semi-OT, but Id like it if my 3rd person camera wouldnt swing around to the backside of a tree. It should always zoom in enough that I can still see myself.
  • Blackwidow
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    I'm still waiting on first person view, but by all means, good Sir, you make go ahead of me in line. :)
  • poodlemasterb16_ESO
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    We need an FOV for third-person + a max camera zoom distance preference slider now that first-person mode has been given the fov slider, when I can't even zoom out far enough to keep a boss from taking up 1/3 of my screen as a melee'r or see more than 10 feet to my sides, that's a problem in both raids and pvp for situational awareness. I also have a relative who has been able to only play a little because she gets motion sick being so tightly in on her character while other MMO's have allowed her to zoom out enough that she's 100% fine with them.

    Go in controls and look for the zoom in and out bit. I bind ^ and down. You can use a scrollwheel too.
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    We need an FOV for third-person + a max camera zoom distance preference slider now that first-person mode has been given the fov slider, when I can't even zoom out far enough to keep a boss from taking up 1/3 of my screen as a melee'r or see more than 10 feet to my sides, that's a problem in both raids and pvp for situational awareness. I also have a relative who has been able to only play a little because she gets motion sick being so tightly in on her character while other MMO's have allowed her to zoom out enough that she's 100% fine with them.

    Go in controls and look for the zoom in and out bit. I bind ^ and down. You can use a scrollwheel too.

    It doesn't scroll out very far at all, I'm asking about the max distance allowed. Thanks though :). Personally I find it a gameplay annoyance but she literally has trouble playing due to it :(.
    Edited by Attorneyatlawl on June 4, 2014 10:29AM
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  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    They really need to fix the third person cross-hair; it's so offside, that I can't even bother trying to get used to third person, ignoring my character while trying to focus on the crosshairs to know if I'm going to hit something; every time I do try, I instantly turn into Clumsy Carp. FP crosshairs are more cut and dried for my brain.

    I dunno how third person players manage to not get constant headaches from the crosshair having nothing to do with your character.

    Hopefully, that will be next on their agenda.
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    They really need to fix the third person cross-hair; it's so offside, that I can't even bother trying to get used to third person, ignoring my character while trying to focus on the crosshairs to know if I'm going to hit something; every time I do try, I instantly turn into Clumsy Carp. FP crosshairs are more cut and dried for my brain.

    I dunno how third person players manage to not get constant headaches from the crosshair having nothing to do with your character.

    Hopefully, that will be next on their agenda.

    Definitely agree, I'd like to see an option for centered, over to the left, and over to the right (how it is now) as a preference setting as well. That's another annoyance of mine :(.
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  • zgrssd
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    I'm still waiting on first person view, but by all means, good Sir, you make go ahead of me in line. :)
    First person FOV slider is part of the PTS build. So we can asume it is going live with the 1.2 patch.
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  • Attorneyatlawl
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    Blackwidow wrote: »
    I'm still waiting on first person view, but by all means, good Sir, you make go ahead of me in line. :)

    Yeah, that's why I spawned this thread, because I was expecting them to fix both first and third person views not just one or the other :(.
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  • Attorneyatlawl
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    zgrssd wrote: »
    Blackwidow wrote: »
    I'm still waiting on first person view, but by all means, good Sir, you make go ahead of me in line. :)
    First person FOV slider is part of the PTS build. So we can asume it is going live with the 1.2 patch.

    Indeed, I just hope someone like @ZOS_GinaBruno or @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ can pass along that third-person needs some love too for 1.2. Third-person fixes were asked for alongside FOV for first-person way back in PTS for months and months but they only seem to be looking at first-person now that the time has finally come?
    -First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
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    -Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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  • remilafo
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    there are addon's that do what you are asking for.

    I don't think this feature will be added or improved anytime soon when third-party addons do it already..

    But anyways at least now you can just goto esoui.com and get the fix you want.
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    remilafo wrote: »
    there are addon's that do what you are asking for.

    I don't think this feature will be added or improved anytime soon when third-party addons do it already..

    But anyways at least now you can just goto esoui.com and get the fix you want.

    No addon can increase your maximum camera zoom distance. The API does not allow for it.
    -First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
    Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!

    -Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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  • mutharex
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    remilafo wrote: »
    there are addon's that do what you are asking for.

    I don't think this feature will be added or improved anytime soon when third-party addons do it already..

    But anyways at least now you can just goto esoui.com and get the fix you want.

    No addon can increase your maximum camera zoom distance. The API does not allow for it.

    You want to google "teso launcher" and distance draw; it might not do what you looking for (I don't use it so I don't know of all features) but still it improves the game looks :)
  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Just because it's an add-on now, doesn't mean devs can't, won't or shouldn't integrate the idea into the game at some point. WoW players no longer need QuestHelper, GearScore, or SpellFlash, for instance. We don't need DBM because of telegraphs and the little hint thing at the bottom that tells you when to block, interrupt, and dodge - even on trash.
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    mutharex wrote: »
    remilafo wrote: »
    there are addon's that do what you are asking for.

    I don't think this feature will be added or improved anytime soon when third-party addons do it already..

    But anyways at least now you can just goto esoui.com and get the fix you want.

    No addon can increase your maximum camera zoom distance. The API does not allow for it.

    You want to google "teso launcher" and distance draw; it might not do what you looking for (I don't use it so I don't know of all features) but still it improves the game looks :)

    No, it doesn't do what I'm asking about :). All that does is remove fog on distant objects. I'm talking about zooming further away from your character's back when in third-person ;). And a third-party hack executable (that is not an addon by the way) is not a solution to a gameplay issue that it doesn't even address regardless.
    Edited by Attorneyatlawl on June 4, 2014 12:26PM
    -First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
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    -Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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  • Attorneyatlawl
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    Also just to clarify since people seem to not understand what is being asked for here:

    Allow us to zoom further away from behind the character while in 3rd-person view. Allow us to choose to center the camera instead of having it in an over-the-shoulder off-to-the-right position, over our character. Allow us to adjust FOV for the third-person camera.

    These are all very much-needed changes that have been asked for just as long as FOV for first-person was, and I am disappointed to see that they didn't touch third-person's problems here especially when one of them was shared directly with first-person view.
    -First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
    Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!

    -Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
    ________________
    -In-game mains abound with "Nerf" in their name. As I am asked occasionally, I do not play on anything but the PC NA Megaserver at this time.
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    Just because it's an add-on now, doesn't mean devs can't, won't or shouldn't integrate the idea into the game at some point. WoW players no longer need QuestHelper, GearScore, or SpellFlash, for instance. We don't need DBM because of telegraphs and the little hint thing at the bottom that tells you when to block, interrupt, and dodge - even on trash.

    Yeah, that's a good point, but as I said this isn't an option with anything but cheat programs/3rd party hacks at this time. None of which I want to use for obvious reasons. Really would like to see a an @zos reply about these issues since 1.2 has one of its headlines as camera fixes, but 3rd person gets none so far.
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  • Attorneyatlawl
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    Anyone find any dev posts regarding this anywhere? Haven't found one myself.
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  • pinstripesc
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    They might not want you to zoom out any further. They designed everything with camera constraints in mind, I don't really see them changing it.
  • dafraorb16_ESO
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    No, we don't like playing ESO like GTA2 rofl
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    They might not want you to zoom out any further. They designed everything with camera constraints in mind, I don't really see them changing it.

    It already used to allow us to zoom out further, so that has nothing to do with it. Additionally there's no MMO on the planet that I've played other than this one that doesn't allow you to choose a max zoom distance.
    Edited by Attorneyatlawl on June 9, 2014 1:31PM
    -First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
    Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!

    -Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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  • Attorneyatlawl
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    No, we don't like playing ESO like GTA2 rofl

    Good for you, no one was asking for that though. Being allowed to zoom further out and have a centered camera doesn't have anything to do with if YOU like it or not personally.
    -First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
    Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!

    -Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
    ________________
    -In-game mains abound with "Nerf" in their name. As I am asked occasionally, I do not play on anything but the PC NA Megaserver at this time.
  • Smiteye
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    This needs doing already.
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