DKs....I'm truly sorry that your Hold shield up>Talons>Standard of might>talons>Dragon Blood>Eat a stamina pot "I win" routine may have taken a hit from this nerf.
Truly sorry.
Maybe now. A little THOUGHT will go into your playstyle.

Sorcs. Don't be too happy. Some people get away some of the time. NOONE gets away ALL OF THE TIME.

Your time will come.

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

Coggage wrote: »

Another tedious rant about a game mechanic which makes some pixels on a screen act differently from how they used to. Amazing what people rage about.

Good for you, your sorc isnt unplayable like DK's are.

Buddy, sorry to burst your bubble but your choice of heavy armor and whatever melee weapon you are using is just as under powered with every class.

ipkonfigcub18_ESO wrote: »

Name one game company that didn't have developers cater to the cloth ranged spell classes?

Every developer out there caters to these types of classes. Just give up like I did years ago.

They will never nerf this ability. Just get used too it

BioWare actually. Believe it or not they nerfed and balanced out Sorcs/Sages just fine, and I played a DPS Guardian that whole time, release to now. The only class that really got out of hand that was ranged was Gunslingers/Snipers, and they got balanced out too, and I quit recently for this game, so I don't know how much it's changed, but I'm pretty sure it isn't too far gone from the image left in my head.

So yea, it isn't exactly a forgone conclusion to get these damned classes nerfed and the other classes fixed, I mean for F***'s sake even Blizzed, after a few years of course (Don't you dare *** be like Blizzard ZoS) changed Ret Paladins for the better for an entire expansion, and even fixed them after barely improving them in the next xpac.

ZoS, you can do this guys, believe in yourselves.

And if you can't do that, then believe in me, who believes in you.

Well basically the DK changes make it even more of a purely ranged combat game.

Sorcs got nerfed before game even came out! Lightning form got nerfed, and bolt escape got nerfed 2ice! Cant believe you guys still crying about bolt escape. Ohh and in case you didnt know this, ult gen nerf hits sorcs very hard because all sorcs run crit builds.

Anyways, all the bad player out there will cry about things instead of figuring out ways to beat them. As a sorc if i run into a reflect spamming DK should i just cry on forums? No! I use a resto heavy atack even though i might want to run around with 2 destros i still carry a resto for that and for regen ult gen (that got nerfed now).

I die a lot to an "invasion" spam, do i cry about it? No! I block now like 24/7 unless i'm on a horse.

Yay templars spamming eclipse on anything that moves! So instead of running to the forums i simply switch to destro and aoe or break out of it over and over (which gets me killed by good old "invasion").

Good players don't whine they find ways around what hurts then the most and that's what makes them good players!

Has anyone even considered what sorc has for defense other than bolt? I mean Templar can heal till you get tired beating on him, DK can heal and kill anyting that gets near and gets passives for blocking, NB can shadow cloak (yes i know its broken but the skill exists and will get fixed) also NB can pop "Veil " for defense. Sorcs got nothing except bolt escape! They cant heal, they don't get defensive passives or ults that help take less damage. So i guess if you literaly want to gut the whole class and make it not worth playing go ahead and nerf bolt.

limeli8 wrote: »

Sorcs got nerfed before game even came out! Lightning form got nerfed, and bolt escape got nerfed 2ice! Cant believe you guys still crying about bolt escape. Ohh and in case you didnt know this, ult gen nerf hits sorcs very hard because all sorcs run crit builds.

Anyways, all the bad player out there will cry about things instead of figuring out ways to beat them. As a sorc if i run into a reflect spamming DK should i just cry on forums? No! I use a resto heavy atack even though i might want to run around with 2 destros i still carry a resto for that and for regen ult gen (that got nerfed now).

I die a lot to an "invasion" spam, do i cry about it? No! I block now like 24/7 unless i'm on a horse.

Yay templars spamming eclipse on anything that moves! So instead of running to the forums i simply switch to destro and aoe or break out of it over and over (which gets me killed by good old "invasion").

Good players don't whine they find ways around what hurts then the most and that's what makes them good players!

Has anyone even considered what sorc has for defense other than bolt? I mean Templar can heal till you get tired beating on him, DK can heal and kill anyting that gets near and gets passives for blocking, NB can shadow cloak (yes i know its broken but the skill exists and will get fixed) also NB can pop "Veil " for defense. Sorcs got nothing except bolt escape! They cant heal, they don't get defensive passives or ults that help take less damage. So i guess if you literaly want to gut the whole class and make it not worth playing go ahead and nerf bolt.

hmm maybe the most powerful heal in the game? critical surge or w/e? the solution is always grab a light armour set and staff. u dont notice this as its what youd normally do as a sorc. other classes dont want to have to wear this. as for reflective scales, u have a million othe great damage spells that are not considered projectiles. nice try tho

limeli8 wrote: »

Sorcs got nerfed before game even came out! Lightning form got nerfed, and bolt escape got nerfed 2ice! Cant believe you guys still crying about bolt escape. Ohh and in case you didnt know this, ult gen nerf hits sorcs very hard because all sorcs run crit builds.

they dont care ....

"Uhm i see teleports, must be black magic ..... BURN THE WITCHES"

"nerv flies .... they always escape my 1 hit hand"

Morbus2 wrote: »

Sorcs are fine. ZoS please don't listen to forum whiners crying for Bolt Escape nerfs. Believe me, once you nerf Bolt Escape they'll just find some other skill/class/ability to cry and whine about.

if sorcs are so fine why is literally everyone re-rolling a sorc? people who dont even usually like playing sorcs feel they HAVE to to be competitive in pvp?

when such a large number are going to sorcs something is wrong, youd have to be a moth priest not to see that

and yeah 300 ult for nova is broken, they need to buff nova for sure i understand your pain lol

Kronosphere wrote: »

the problem with sorcs is this. in most games, the high bursty characters are really squishy, and sometimes not even that mobile. on this game since tank counts for nothing. sorcs are nearly as sturdy as tanks but with that insane dps and utility at great range.

You want some cheese with all that whine?

CHEESE FOR EVERYONE!

One sided comments whining about my OP DK lack other class experience.

Grind up a sorc and experience how DKs will still spank your arse again and again, or how your sorc gets pwned in high VR areas by 3-pack trash mobs, The " I win" DK class still rules PVP and can out solo them all.

Go roll up a Templar, then you then perhaps have an excuse to complain.

Kronosphere wrote: »

the problem with sorcs is this. in most games, the high bursty characters are really squishy, and sometimes not even that mobile. on this game since tank counts for nothing. sorcs are nearly as sturdy as tanks but with that insane dps and utility at great range.

What a load of bull. DK tanks are the vast majority in PVP and can still solo Craglorn. Go play a light armor sorc with the so-called insane dps and then come back and whine how craptastic they are.

I suggest you go read up at Tamriel Foundry and note the posts and responses in the theorycrafting section per class.

People trolling the people upset about the DK nerf are forgetting something.....these are the people in the game with you....many of them already left, many are now leaving because not only did they nerf the DK's and let other things slip by, they did nothing to BOOST the other aspects of the game.

ZoS cornholed every DK into an AoE light armor and a staff build to be viable, and then they slammed them. When you go to try another build, it's still garbage. When you go to try NB or a Temp....they are garbage.

This game is beginning to thin out, and ZoS isn't helping at all. Do I agree the DK's needed to be reigned in? Absolutely. Do I agree they all need to wear a dress and play wizards? Absolutely not.

The upset players have every reason to be upset. ZoS has done nothing on the positive end to support the other builds. And the Nerf to Crit and Ult generation? LOL....best of luck crit built NB's.

Of course ZoS plays sorcs, thats why light armor and staves are so good in the first place. They probably have posters and crap of every known fantasy wizard posted around the offices.

Covyn wrote: »

People trolling the people upset about the DK nerf are forgetting something.....these are the people in the game with you....many of them already left, many are now leaving because not only did they nerf the DK's and let other things slip by, they did nothing to BOOST the other aspects of the game.

ZoS cornholed every DK into an AoE light armor and a staff build to be viable, and then they slammed them. When you go to try another build, it's still garbage. When you go to try NB or a Temp....they are garbage.

This game is beginning to thin out, and ZoS isn't helping at all. Do I agree the DK's needed to be reigned in? Absolutely. Do I agree they all need to wear a dress and play wizards? Absolutely not.

The upset players have every reason to be upset. ZoS has done nothing on the positive end to support the other builds. And the Nerf to Crit and Ult generation? LOL....best of luck crit built NB's.

Best words ever. Exactly what it is. You don't wear light armor and use staff, you aren't a good DK.

They refuse to nerf the armor because all those dopes at ZoS are wizard lovers.

Go light armor or go home.

Erock25 wrote: »

Covyn wrote: »

LOL....best of luck crit built NB's.

What is the other bonuses of crit for NB besides the extra damage? It seems everyone thinks this ult generation crit nerf hurts NB the most when literally every single sorceror in existence is stacking crit for critical surge self healing.

Crits give(gave) more ultimate. NBs, particularly single target focused NBs, are heavily reliant on building ultimate for veil of blades usually. A nerf to crit generating ultimate reduces a single target players gains more than an aoe spamming character. Single target player is gaining 1 ultimate, modified by skills/passives. An AoE player is gaining up to 6, modified by skills/passives.