What You Don't Know About NightBlades (re:Trials)

kitsinni · June 2014

Worstluck wrote: »

Melee needs AoE. Cleave and Whirlwind don't cut it. !h/shield has none. Maybe if you equip a melee weapon and use Siphoning Strikes, the damage reduction would be gone or very small, that way we could you could use more stamina abilities. Nightblades need more stamina period imo. Heavy armor 5 piece could increase melee damage; let melee users take more damage using some heavy. Medium armor could use changes, not sure what.

Whirlwind + Path of Darkness + Power Extraction = quite a bit of AoE actually.

Worstluck · June 2014

I forget about path of darkness. It's getting buffed too, I should use it.

flo_wb16_ESO · June 2014

Hi I was also forced to switch to restro in full light as this spec is currently only way to be competitive in some way on progress raids.
I can confirm that with Siphoning + mage guild skills you can go over 900 DPS and even more ...

My max was 1.1k at third boss in archives.

See below screenshots of Endboss THE MAGE and second boss in Archives.
This is only running magicka buff food no crit spell dmg potions ...

So it is possible to reach such dps if you time your rotations right and you have the right Equip. As you can see my impale crit rate pretty sucks on mage fight so I can go even higher here ...

With next patch when shadow Ult can crit 1k+ DPS should be standard on each fight even if this includes some movement.

It's still pretty sad that RESTRO staff is the Ultimate Weapon choice because of the 10% dmg buff.

Before this I was running stamina spec with Flying Blade but maximum DPS I ever pulled was around 750 with no movement at all just dpsing

If you need more info on spec and Equip just let me know

wllstrt75b14_ESO · June 2014

besides the obvious which is the staffs are obviously OP compared to Melee..the DK usage in groups should start to see a balancing effect as their 2 ults one for tanking and one for damage dealing have been nerfed a tad.

Nut the 10 DK number was pretty accurate..you could really use 12 DK's and just have a few with the resto staff yet still dump out damage like crazy using DK skills and their ults and be very effective.

Therium104 · June 2014

flo_wb16_ESO wrote: »

Hi I was also forced to switch to restro in full light as this spec is currently only way to be competitive in some way on progress raids.
I can confirm that with Siphoning + mage guild skills you can go over 900 DPS and even more ...

My max was 1.1k at third boss in archives.

See below screenshots of Endboss THE MAGE and second boss in Archives.
This is only running magicka buff food no crit spell dmg potions ...

So it is possible to reach such dps if you time your rotations right and you have the right Equip. As you can see my impale crit rate pretty sucks on mage fight so I can go even higher here ...

With next patch when shadow Ult can crit 1k+ DPS should be standard on each fight even if this includes some movement.

It's still pretty sad that RESTRO staff is the Ultimate Weapon choice because of the 10% dmg buff.

Before this I was running stamina spec with Flying Blade but maximum DPS I ever pulled was around 750 with no movement at all just dpsing

If you need more info on spec and Equip just let me know

This is why... the last thing this game needs is a buff to NB.

Andy22 · June 2014

zenmogwai wrote: »

What do I need to do differently to get this much ult?

Nothing

you can get more than 200 ulti over 12 sec in a single target fight...

Won't work anymore:

Reduced the ultimate gain on all critical strikes to 1 from 3.

khele23eb17_ESO · June 2014

Therium104 wrote: »

flo_wb16_ESO wrote: »

Hi I was also forced to switch to restro in full light as this spec is currently only way to be competitive in some way on progress raids.
I can confirm that with Siphoning + mage guild skills you can go over 900 DPS and even more ...

My max was 1.1k at third boss in archives.

See below screenshots of Endboss THE MAGE and second boss in Archives.
This is only running magicka buff food no crit spell dmg potions ...

So it is possible to reach such dps if you time your rotations right and you have the right Equip. As you can see my impale crit rate pretty sucks on mage fight so I can go even higher here ...

With next patch when shadow Ult can crit 1k+ DPS should be standard on each fight even if this includes some movement.

It's still pretty sad that RESTRO staff is the Ultimate Weapon choice because of the 10% dmg buff.

Before this I was running stamina spec with Flying Blade but maximum DPS I ever pulled was around 750 with no movement at all just dpsing

If you need more info on spec and Equip just let me know

This is why... the last thing this game needs is a buff to NB.

Thats a NS not a NB...

flo_wb16_ESO · June 2014

Therium104 wrote: »

This is why... the last thing this game needs is a buff to NB.

LOL even this DPS is a joke when DKs can pull out twice as much and have superior defense abilties.

I also do not want to be forced into Light Armor with Heal staff.
I want to play a rogue doing equal single target dps as Magicka based classes...

So I disagree most needed thing in that game is a buff to melee builds especially for NBs ...

Comaetilico · June 2014

OkieDokie wrote: »

Comaetilico wrote: »

2) hom much power do you have? (you should be over 130 only with equip... prior to buff/consumable) what consumable are you using? (magika and health food are a must for trials and magika recovery + spellpower + spell critIs is what you should be using during trials) is your target debuffed? (we'r talking about the dps generated in a 12 man group... so you have to take into account buff and debuff from other sources than you alone) what weapon do you have equipped? (resto staff is what you should be using for 10% additional damage at full health)

4) just to begin with... you have at least 8/9% weapon crit... 2% from the assassination passive (assuming you only have impale in your bar... yep the passive is bugged... but the bug in the display in character page.. it is working you simply don't see the correct number)... 6/7% (based on the weapon being purple or gold rarity) from your weapon precise trait... add an additional 5% if you use the thief... an additional 7% you can get from PvP buff... and if you use a dedicated exeution bar (like many sorc do) you can get even higher crit rate... so you can get from a minimum of 8% (purple weapon and only impale) to a maximum of 31% (in a full assassination bar... probably not the optimal setup but you can squeze at least a couple assassination skill in this bar)... for the basic damage see point 2... especialy the power and resto staff are quite heavy in the damage output on skill as this...

again... if YOU can't get a result it doesn't mean that that result can't be achived ^^

How do you get over 130 spell power without potions? Base + 30 from jewelry enchants (gold vr 5-7?) + increase with magicka will not get you there (I might be wrong or it is not showing as it should on my display).

I don't think a bar for assassination skills is viable.

vr 10-14 gold enchant are 12 per enchant (so 36) plus PvP buff (don't rember the exact amount of PvP buff) this will get you past 130 with easy ^^

Nuitar · June 2014

Verified - still able to keep veil up indefinitely on AA trials bosses.

Now it does closer to 350+ DPS

Testing shadow path soon.

Tamanous · June 2014

Sadly you could post a similar through swapping out NB with DK or Sorc and see much larger numbers than listed here.

The larger fix for NB resides outside the class. Every single person playing a NB relies on it's inherent weaknesses riding on the coat tails of a very few powerful abilities.

"NB is ok! ... if you keep Consuming Darkness up time at 100%"

"NB is ok! ... if you are a Vampire."

"NB is ok! ... if you use a staff."

This contributes nothing toward the correct solution of issues and betterment of the entire game. Many of these issues apply to all classes.