I have to agree.
Although maybe they could fix the issue via a trait which gives you a chance of harvesting multiple reagents, like the Green Thumb one in Skyrim.
This would mean those invested into alchemy would be able to find more reagents to use in potions but it wouldn't become a large farmable thing for everyone, although my fear is with that system it still wouldn't bring priced down enough or fill the demand from alchemists for the items.

Yes I started in the AD in early access intending to be an alchemist. Boy was I wrong. No mats, no profession. Now I see they put a price on them as a bounty for the gold sellers.

redspecter23 wrote: »

I'll admit that I don't personally see the issue. However, I do farm a lot for ingredients. I know what areas to hit that have lots of Mountain Flower, Columbine and Bugloss chances. I know where to go for my level appropriate water and I spend way more time than I should doing that. Even knowing that I spend way more time than most other people doing this, I still can't see a way to make any sort of profit out of this (not that it's necessarily a bad thing).

I guess the way I see it, for players that don't want to do the farming, they can always find a friendly alchemist and buy their potions. They really aren't all that expensive compared to what you'd pay for the raw ingredients anyway. If you're just looking to level up alchemy, you can use any old junk ingredient and get to 50 very efficiently.

The problem is less of not wanting to farm and more of there's just not enough nodes out there with the underground bot farmers and the slight absurdity that every other node except enchanting stones gives more than one item.

There's three or four ingredients that are highly desired, particularly the ingredients in the health/magicka/stamina super potion. People want to make their own, but aren't finding any in the field, and when they go to buy they're overpriced *because* of scarcity.

Before recently, the bots left the alchemy and enchanting nodes alone.

Now they take aspects and alchemy nodes.

I am not against farming for mats appropriately, but spending 8 hours a day doing so is so NOT on my todo list. Even then, the ingredients needed are far outstripped by demand. i have orders for hundreds of potions that i cant get the mats at any price let alone farm enough.

Sakiri wrote: »

The problem is less of not wanting to farm and more of there's just not enough nodes out there with the underground bot farmers and the slight absurdity that every other node except enchanting stones gives more than one item.

There's three or four ingredients that are highly desired, particularly the ingredients in the health/magicka/stamina super potion. People want to make their own, but aren't finding any in the field, and when they go to buy they're overpriced *because* of scarcity.

Before recently, the bots left the alchemy and enchanting nodes alone.

Now they take aspects and alchemy nodes.

I think you've hit on a huge part of the problem. For the vast majority of players, health/magicka/stamina are the only potions that matter much at all. The ingredients that don't factor into those potions are nearly useless. I say nearly useless because you can still use them to craft up trash pots specifically for xp.

Yes I could be invisible for 4 seconds or I could have a potion that restores a good chunk of my life and keeps on giving for 14 seconds after that. The 4 second invis is niche at best and even worse because it puts your health pot on a 30 second timer as well. It's a risk to use anything that doesn't restore your abilities because of the shared timer. Add to that the fact that poisons aren't implemented at all, making most of the mushrooms pointless and you have 20 something ingredients out there with 3 - 5 actually being wanted at all.

There is a problem with the system, but not necessarily not enough mats to go around. The problem is we have too many mats that don't measure up to the ones that are actually good. The bots are a problem throughout the game and that's another issue entirely. I'll be happy when they aren't a factor, but balancing against the bots is also a poor idea because then once the bots are no longer a factor, the mats need to be nerfed down and nobody will want to see that happen.

Ever since that damn patch,the number of columbine found has become non-existent for me!

Increase Runes first. I do all the crafts and Enchanting is the hardest to get mats for.

I'm not sure nodes need to be increased. Alchemy has a passive that gives you 4x the potions when crafting, so 1 node = 4 pots as long as you invest the skill points. I'm finding it difficult to find Columbine too, but it's not nearly as bad as other things such as purple recipes, oats, etc.

Columbine DOES have 3 stat increases and allows us to craft the mythical HP/MP/STA potions, so it's only fitting that it's relatively scarce.

[EDIT]This isn't to say there isn't a problem with bots farming nodes. I just mean that they should deal with the bots and THEN we could talk about scarcity.

Excellent request.
I always found it strange that you only harvest one but get three or four when harvesting Iron Ore.
Then again isn't there a passive in Alchemy and Food that alloys you to craft two items for the price of one anyway?

Nirnroot useless?!?
Wow.
You use Nirnroot to level up by making useless anti-stat potions.
With other plants that have limited or no other use.

Damm straight the game is starting to become a chore for me spending an hour walking round looking for plants is not a game I can do that at the park couldn't the in game merchants sell the plants to reduce the laborious task this is the first first time I've played an online game such as this and I just carnt be arsed playing it sometimes even tho I was addicted to oblivion skyrim and fallout 3. Might just wait for fallout 4 to arrive

I completely disagree. Getting max alchemy is cake.
I didn't get 50 in 4 days! So sad! :'(
Also, necro post!