Sorceror solo Craglorn video! Crit Surge = strongest self heal in the game
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This Sorceror "L3loodraid" on youtube has made several videos of soloing different bosses in Craglorn. Kudos to him!
I have not made this video, and I do not take credit for it.
If anyone disagree that Crit Surge is the best self heal in the game, or that Sorcerors don't have self healing....Watch this and see for yourself...
If you're a sorc, don't whine on other heals in the game without looking at your own disposal. You already have the most efficient, cheapest, strongest and longest self heal in the game with Crit Surge.
Crit Surge lasts 20 seconds as a buff, so you can hotbar it on secondary weapon, and get heals with 5 dps abilities freed up on main bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFjx1RxIqgk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmAqjl9xZOg&list=UUr0_5SRiwcFwgJUgzuWEHUA
Edited by monkeymystic on May 31, 2014 2:10PM I have not made this video, and I do not take credit for it.
If anyone disagree that Crit Surge is the best self heal in the game, or that Sorcerors don't have self healing....Watch this and see for yourself...
If you're a sorc, don't whine on other heals in the game without looking at your own disposal. You already have the most efficient, cheapest, strongest and longest self heal in the game with Crit Surge.
Crit Surge lasts 20 seconds as a buff, so you can hotbar it on secondary weapon, and get heals with 5 dps abilities freed up on main bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFjx1RxIqgkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmAqjl9xZOg&list=UUr0_5SRiwcFwgJUgzuWEHUA 4
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DK on Ini and Trial Trash, healthbar not even moves (after initial dmg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F-AihITyYqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pODBGHKF2VUEdited by andreas.rudroffb16_ESO on May 31, 2014 2:00AM1 -
Thunderchief✭✭✭I'm guessing you need high crit stat, luck and skill.
(In the first video)
Also if you are kiting you don't need a tank and if you aren't getting hit anymore than if you were in a group you don't need a healer.
It isn't crit surge so much at fault here as the ability to kite it around. The only way to fix this is to have the boss reset if it gets too far away from spawn location or have the boss cast a moderate snare occasionally.2 -
monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭You are a sorceror trying to deny that crit surge is the best self heal in the game?
Crit Surge is amazing, and it doesnt even cost much magicka. Its a buff that heals for a ton as you dps.
Sorcerors actually have the best mobility and best self healing in the game that comes from a cheap long lasting buff, along with range spells like crystal shards.Edited by monkeymystic on May 31, 2014 11:08AM6 -
monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭Thunderchief wrote: »I'm guessing you need high crit stat, luck and skill.
(In the first video)
Also if you are kiting you don't need a tank and if you aren't getting hit anymore than if you were in a group you don't need a healer.
It isn't crit surge so much at fault here as the ability to kite it around. The only way to fix this is to have the boss reset if it gets too far away from spawn location or have the boss cast a moderate snare occasionally.
It's not news that Crit Surge is amazing.
Everyone with a brain knew this was OP with crit rating since beta.
The fact that you can buff yourself with it, and it automatically heals as you do crit damage with high spellcrit, makes it extremely powerful in AoE situations.
Have you not seen how imba Crit Surge Sorcerors are in AoE pvp?
It's the fact that they dont need to click any heal ability except for a buff, and then they just need to spam DPS and heal for tons at the same time for "free".
Edited by monkeymystic on May 31, 2014 2:12AM4 -
monkeymystic wrote: »You are a sorceror trying to deny that crit surge is the best self heal in the game?
Crit Surge is amazing, and it doesnt even cost much magicka. Its a buff that heals for a ton as you dps.
I just think it's funny that sorcerors actually have the best mobility AND best self healing in the game that comes from a cheap long lasting buff, along with range spells like crystal shards.
that post made my day and i am still rofl
you , dear sir, can have my sorc and show me, how op it is, i take your DK
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Thunderchief✭✭✭monkeymystic wrote: »The fact that you can buff yourself with it, and it automatically heals as you do crit damage with high spellcrit, makes it extremely powerful in AoE situations.
Exactly. It becomes less amazing the less targets you have. My sorceror is focused more on single target dps and the self heals from Stampede (always crits) help but are not op because it is single target.Edited by Thunderchief on May 31, 2014 2:15AM0 -
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✭✭Never mind that you need to build entirely for crit for it to be any good and that you still need a target to heal.0 -
monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭Who wouldn't build some spellcrit in any dps build?
Sorcerors even have more spell crit than the other classes.
Of course this thread will consist of sorcerors defending Crit Surge, but denying that its very strong currently is lying. The best sorcerors spec spell crit and they use Crit Surge.3 -
Catflinger✭✭✭monkeymystic wrote: »Who wouldn't build some spellcrit in any dps build?
Sorcerors even have more spell crit than the other classes.
Of course this thread will consist of sorcerors defending Crit Surge, but denying that its very strong currently is lying. The best sorcerors spec spell crit and they use Crit Surge.
Well, yeah. But those videos aren't exactly proof of it being some unbelievably OP, crazy-through-the-roof, OMG-fix-it-NAO thing. The player is good, no doubt about it, but he has to work hard, he's kiting like a madman and at times, praying like a boss for a crit to heal him to stay alive. OP and imba would be if he sailed though the fights with a minimum of kiting and his health bar barely going below half.
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monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭Catflinger wrote: »monkeymystic wrote: »Who wouldn't build some spellcrit in any dps build?
Sorcerors even have more spell crit than the other classes.
Of course this thread will consist of sorcerors defending Crit Surge, but denying that its very strong currently is lying. The best sorcerors spec spell crit and they use Crit Surge.
Well, yeah. But those videos aren't exactly proof of it being some unbelievably OP, crazy-through-the-roof, OMG-fix-it-NAO thing. The player is good, no doubt about it, but he has to work hard, he's kiting like a madman and at times, praying like a boss for a crit to heal him to stay alive. OP and imba would be if he sailed though the fights with a minimum of kiting and his health bar barely going below half.
I'm not saying it should get nerfed, im simply saying "take a look at this before you cry nerf on everything else around you" as many sorcerors do right now.
Sorcerors have the best self healing with this ability alone, so they shouldnt exactly whine about other heals in the game..Edited by monkeymystic on May 31, 2014 11:18AM2 -
Selstad✭✭✭✭Sorcerers have 1 ability that is proc based and they are "the best healing spell in the game".
Dragon knights have countless (ultima, proc spells, passives) and a sustainable magica resource.
For my sake, I crit upwards of 800-1000 damage. That grants me around 520-650 healing towards me. Now compare that to the Dragon knight's self healing abilities, mitigation abilities and sustainable abilities, then come back to me and proclaim that Critical surge is the best self healing ability in the game. Recap, 1 spell on proc base Vs several that can be activated when necessary.3 -
Zaxq✭✭✭monkeymystic wrote: »Catflinger wrote: »monkeymystic wrote: »Who wouldn't build some spellcrit in any dps build?
Sorcerors even have more spell crit than the other classes.
Of course this thread will consist of sorcerors defending Crit Surge, but denying that its very strong currently is lying. The best sorcerors spec spell crit and they use Crit Surge.
Well, yeah. But those videos aren't exactly proof of it being some unbelievably OP, crazy-through-the-roof, OMG-fix-it-NAO thing. The player is good, no doubt about it, but he has to work hard, he's kiting like a madman and at times, praying like a boss for a crit to heal him to stay alive. OP and imba would be if he sailed though the fights with a minimum of kiting and his health bar barely going below half.
I'm not saying it should get nerfed, im simply saying "take a look at this before you cry nerf on everything else around you" as many sorcerors do right now.
Sorcerors have the best self healing with this ability alone, so they shouldnt exactly whine about other heals in the game..
Haven't seen any whines at all from sorcs about self-heals. Ever.
What I do see, quite regularly, is you posting about some non-issue pretty much every day.
And posting everything in bold still.
If your in-game ability is as strong as your forum tears, then you will be the one needing a nerf.
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DeLindsay✭✭✭✭✭
✭WOW, Monkey is seriously hard up to try and keep ZoS from nerfing his precious DK that he mains. How many different threads have you posted now trying to imply that every class BUT DK is OP and cannot be allowed to continue?4 -
So where is the Templar solo's craglorn boss video thats a video i want to see doubt it will happen though.0
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✭green dragon blood heals both health and stamina, AND you dont need ANY crit to use it.
complete OP. nerf that thing RIGHT NOW3 -
BrassRazoo✭✭✭✭✭How many of the "So and so Solos Craglorn" crap will we see.
Please be original next time and show a bloody NPC doing it.Edited by BrassRazoo on May 31, 2014 12:30PM0 -
monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭green dragon blood heals both health and stamina, AND you dont need ANY crit to use it.
complete OP. nerf that thing RIGHT NOW
ehm no? dragon blood is the most expensive ability they have, and is only situational. It's useless if you are over 50% health. Remember its not 33% of total health, but 33% of LOST health, which is not nearly as good.
It gives a small bonus to stamina and health *regen*, which is almost nothing since most are softcapped anyway. It's pretty much useless for anything except when you manage to stay out of CC and are low on health.
And again, the most expensive ability they have.
Crit Surge lasts a long duration, is cheap to cast, heals for tons even with 90% or 30% health, and heals as you do damage for "free". It is also the strongest self-heal in the game. Crystal Shard crit = 800+ heal alone from crit surgeEdited by monkeymystic on May 31, 2014 12:35PM2 -
McDoogs✭✭✭✭Sorcerers have 1 ability that is proc based and they are "the best healing spell in the game".
Dragon knights have countless (ultima, proc spells, passives) and a sustainable magica resource.
For my sake, I crit upwards of 800-1000 damage. That grants me around 520-650 healing towards me. Now compare that to the Dragon knight's self healing abilities, mitigation abilities and sustainable abilities, then come back to me and proclaim that Critical surge is the best self healing ability in the game. Recap, 1 spell on proc base Vs several that can be activated when necessary.
Explain the dk class skill for magicka sustain mechanic please.1 -
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✭As mentioned in the same nightblade thread, these videos probably contributed a lot to DKs getting nerfed.
And now it turns out that all classes can do it - except templars (still to be proven).
It's like I've been saying all along. Sorcs have amazing self sustain and these videos (the sorc and nightblade) actually puts all those cries for green dragon blood nerfs into perspective.
In PvP with a sorc, I can run into a cluster of players and use inner light + lightning form+ critical surge + impulse + streak and do the same thing DKs used to be able to with dark talons and standard. And I can heal myself for more than players usually can damage me... and I have a fool-proof escape if things go wrong.
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DeLindsay✭✭✭✭✭
✭Guys, try to understand the ONLY reason Monkey is posting all this crap is to deflect ZoS from nerfing his DK main, that's it. He doesn't even understand the mechanics of the classes he's posting videos of, just "so-and-so solos something" so it has to be nerfed (you don't see him posting DK videos, like the one of a DK solo'ing a RAID).4 -
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✭monkeymystic wrote: »green dragon blood heals both health and stamina, AND you dont need ANY crit to use it.
complete OP. nerf that thing RIGHT NOW
ehm no? dragon blood is the most expensive ability they have, and is only situational. It's useless if you are over 50% health. Remember its not 33% of total health, but 33% of LOST health, which is not nearly as good.
It gives a small bonus to stamina and health *regen*, which is almost nothing since most are softcapped anyway. It's pretty much useless for anything except when you manage to stay out of CC and are low on health.
And again, the most expensive ability they have.
Crit Surge lasts a long duration, is cheap to cast, heals for tons even with 90% or 30% health, and heals as you do damage for "free". It is also the strongest self-heal in the game. Crystal Shard crit = 800+ heal alone from crit surge
I know exactly what it is, My DK spam it too.
At 2.5k health, even with 50% health, it still heals 400points INSTANTLY, and keep you alive for next 20 seconds, RELIABLY.
Which other skill remotely close to do that?
Not to mention, CS costs almost 30% more magicka than dragon blood. And is NOT 100%.Talk about expensive, Dragon blood should at least cost as much as CS, if not more.
The idea is DK will put more attri points in health and Sorc will put more in magicka, in reality, almost all Vet put ALL the points i health, so this "idea" is practically meaningless.
If you love CS that much, LETS SWAP with dragon blood! I would LOVE THAT. I am sure you would be happy too, right?Edited by crislevin on May 31, 2014 12:45PM1 -
monkeymystic✭✭✭✭✭Guys, try to understand the ONLY reason Monkey is posting all this crap is to deflect ZoS from nerfing his DK main, that's it. He doesn't even understand the mechanics of the classes he's posting videos of, just "so-and-so solos something" so it has to be nerfed (you don't see him posting DK videos, like the one of a DK solo'ing a RAID).
I'm playing a Templar actually. And I do rather well with it too, check out my templar build in pve section.
But the point is to let people know Destro/resto is the key to doing all this, not the "classes being op".
Also this post was to show that sorcerors have some sick self healing as well.Edited by monkeymystic on May 31, 2014 12:43PM0 -
DeLindsay✭✭✭✭✭
✭So show us any class with any gear/weapon combo that can solo Trial trash and THEN you might have a valid argument that DK shouldn't be nerfed and instead it's the 'Light Armor+Staff' that should be nerfed.2 -
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✭Ah, don't worry. I doubt DKs will get nerfed much further. They are designed to be the best choke-hold class and that ability took an unprecendented big hit in the latest patch.
Talons are a joke now as any skilled player will escape it 100% and inhale doesn't give you enough sustain for you to stick your head out. They have been beaten well into submission at this point.- The Psijic Order
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Kayira✭✭✭✭@monkeymystic
If I just look at your discussion start history more than half of the threads are about things to be OP. Sorcerer is OP, NB Cloak is OP. Everything seems to be OP to you.
Except of DK. I guess you are one of those players that go through the world die most of the time and get jealous to see players more skillfull than you. If any of the classes are OP it is DK. Yes sorcerer is one of the better classes still but seriously not as OP as DK. So get a grip and stop spamming the forum with your crap just because you are jealous that there are players better than you.
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Crit Surge only heals you at crit. You can only achieve enough crit with a precise staff, magic light and a ton of luck. Also have you realised that most of the skills on his bar were utility?He only had 1 attack spell, impulse, the rest was for defense, magicka replenishing and getting crit. DK can solo it without that many utility slots.
If I were to solo it I would switch between resto and destro staff. Stack rapid regneration on myself and kite him with my destro staff. I tell you switching around would let me kill that thing in half of the time.
All the guy had was luck and skill. Critical surge is definitely not OP. In order to achieve the healing you need a lot of Crit.
So seriously stop spamming threads about classes you don't really understand out of jealousy or other petty reasons.6 -
BrassRazoo✭✭✭✭✭So you are crying about Crit Surg .. and only way to fix it is to just basically get rid of the entire skill?
If crit is a percentage chance and the health give back is half of the crit damage, what is the room for adjustment?
Tool Tip "If you happen to cirt maybe occasionally you can get between half or zero of the damage done back in heath?"2
