I find it hilarious some people say VR dungeons are too hard, when most gamers find them TOO EASY!

You must be doing something terribly wrong or your group is terrible, or you simply haven't understood the game mechanics.

Oh and btw, it's not "cheating" the trials to continually farm the first boss: the instance has to be reset, group reformed and trial done all over again to first boss. Clearly not an exploit. Second, the best gear DOESN'T drop from the first boss, in fact, NO epic set pieces EVER drop from the first boss. Epic set pieces (aether pieces, etc.) only drop from the LAST boss, which is the hardest in Aetherian Archive.

The worm cult set pieces that drop in VR5 and VR10 dungeons are great set pieces and were the best-in-slot for casters till VR12 came out. Even now, they're still very viable and wanted in trials group. So no idea where the heck you get "unrewarding" from.

First, I agree that veteran level content is too difficult. I am able to beat it solo without much challenge, but I am only able to do so while using one of a handful of builds, so the skill experimentation that I really enjoyed in the level 1-50 game is gone after that point. I'm left playing the game the same way over and over as a result. I'm finding it interesting on my first characters (two so far as I'm not playing my Templar post Biting Jabs nerf) who are seeing the other empire's content for the first time, but I won't enjoy it on my alts unfortunately. Also, there are occasionally solo bosses who are immune to CC and who hit like a truck that I cannot beat unless I'm playing a character with amazing self-heals (DK or Templar) and burning potions.

As for dungeons, I can help you with that. Here is how you beat every dungeon and trial in the game.

Templar Ultimate: Nova
Sorcerer Ultimate: Storm Atronach
Dragon Knight Ultimate: DK Standard
Nightblades: Reroll as another class if you want to do dungeons (sorry)

Everyone in the group quip a restoration staff and level it up and skill it up until you have Regen and Combat Prayer unlocked. Spam these heal skills as you go through the dungeon. the group should all stand close together for stacked group heals. Pop ultimates as you get them on large groups of adds (do ranged pulls where the whole group hides from LoS to gather even the ranged mobs). Stack your ultimates and watch things burn while also stacking resto staff heals on your group and blocking heavy attacks so that your health never lowers below 50%.

Rinse and repeat.

Now, that doesn't help a lot because you still get terrible progression in dungeons as you did from levels 1-50, loot still isn't worth getting excited about, AND even the first vet dungeons drop vet 5 gear which you obviously can't equip until you are halfway through the veteran content (other than Craglorn).

They'll likely nerf these abilities (or at least resto-staff's ability to earn Ultimate), and this will also mean having to rebalance the endgame content since the people using this "I win" strategy will no longer have it available, but it's currently around should you choose to use it.

I personally loved the vet areas. I enjoyed the fact I actually had a hard time doing them. I think games these days are too easy, and I love the challenge. especially the vet dungs. they are VETERAN DUNGEONS, they are SUPPOSED TO BE HARD, same with the vet areas. im not saying its perfect, as I too expected more, but I don't think its anywhere near as bad as you think.

Point is if u like vet levels you're a very small minority .

nalan87sb14a_ESO wrote: »

Gorthax anyone who has anything positive to say aboutabout vet levels obviously has no life outside this game ,because if u find vet levels easy and entertaining . you're definitely in need of some outdoors time and sunlight.

True gamers live off vitamin D pills, coffee, Adderall, and a tinch of mary jane. Who needs sunlight when you have all that?

No but seriously, you must be a terrible gamer to think Vet dungeons are hard LOL. I have 7 pieces of worm cult, 5 ebon pieces, 5 savior pieces, all from farming VR5-VR10 dungeons. You do one of each dungeon per day and within a month ull get at least 5 pieces.

It is MEANT to be RARE because it is/was the best-in-slot gear piece in the game. Personally, I don't want to see bad gamers like you wear this set just because they can down some easy-ass boss a couple of times.

It took me EFFORT & SKILL to farm those pieces and continually do those dungeons every single day. What you're asking for is OH GIVE ME EASY DUNGEONS AND HIGH LOOT CHANCES FOR BEST GEAR. No just no.

IMO, less than 10% of the population should have access to the top-level gear. This is to maintain RARE status. Whole point of rare gear is to be, guess what, RARE!

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

Oh well the one trick ponies will soon be gone and hopefully they will find something.

I am pleased with this game.

Gagg!

bean19 wrote: »

As for dungeons, I can help you with that. Here is how you beat every dungeon and trial in the game.

Templar Ultimate: Nova
Sorcerer Ultimate: Storm Atronach
Dragon Knight Ultimate: DK Standard
Nightblades: Reroll as another class if you want to do dungeons (sorry)

Everyone in the group quip a restoration staff and level it up and skill it up until you have Regen and Combat Prayer unlocked. Spam these heal skills as you go through the dungeon. the group should all stand close together for stacked group heals. Pop ultimates as you get them on large groups of adds (do ranged pulls where the whole group hides from LoS to gather even the ranged mobs). Stack your ultimates and watch things burn while also stacking resto staff heals on your group and blocking heavy attacks so that your health never lowers below 50%.

Rinse and repeat.

@Prettiboi‌ This is "effort" and "skill"?

Its not difficulty I have problems with!! Its replaybility, value, entertainment, and options of a game !! And vet lvls suck ! They don't have any of it!

Why do so many people need to be patted on the head and given awesome gear without any real challenge at all these days? If you want good gear, work for it. Craft it. Feel the challenge rather than just quitting when it gets a bit tough.

The problem is they make 1-50 faceroll content, then hit u hard with vet content, they need to incress difficulty slowly as you gain cc abilities

inspiral1 wrote: »

The problem is they make 1-50 faceroll content, then hit u hard with vet content, they need to incress difficulty slowly as you gain cc abilities

this - i think.
I ran through 1-50 without using any CC at all (except for trying them out). I just went full dps skillbar.
Now i am VR1 and it took me 10 minutes of questing to slot a CC.

I start NOW to actually think about my build and i am having a hard time because the game was so easy up until now, that you really didn't need any CC or defensive abilitys (except the fight against molag bal for me). Now i am stuck with a sorc full of DPS skills and having a hard time to decide what i actually need in the skillbar - if jsut weapon swap wouldn't be that sloppy... (i have the same problem in PvP).

So.. i am tired as *something* and what i am actually trying to say is, that the difficulty level of the game just explodes suddenly and people aren't used to that.
I like it. I didn't play much of VR yet, but i really think i will like it. Even the dungeons were far to easy up until now. Except fungal grotto we just rushed through every dungeon so far, when visiting them on the according level.

JD2013 wrote: »

Why do so many people need to be patted on the head and given awesome gear without any real challenge at all these days? If you want good gear, work for it. Craft it. Feel the challenge rather than just quitting when it gets a bit tough.

Bro its not that we even want the awesome gear its the lack of gear, its the lack of that kills this game. This game was unfinished from the start and its really starting to hurt zeni now.

In all honesty, there is a way to beat all Vet dungeons at the suggested level ranges. You just need to work in sync together as a group and that may take some time to make happen. If you want a game that you can just walk into and stomp everything in sight without using some real tactics, this isn't the game for you.

With that said, I love the difficulty. In fact I had a lot of fun when the enemies had double health and dealt a lot more damage. It would be nice to be able to toggle that on or lower for others... with scaling chances of better loot. To each their own...