Allow All Zones to have PVP in it. PVE-only servers still accessible for everyone.

Ajyn · May 2014

Each Alliance would have a safe area on each map, just like Cyrodiil. Allowing more terrain to have PVP would help to create more varied skirmishes and tactics. Wayshrines would be even more important to explore and tension overall would be higher.

To get around group camping in important areas, you could phase to another PVP server, or phase into an PVE-only server.

SilverWF · May 2014

Agree - sometimes I want to kill someone ally

Solanum · May 2014

This would be awesome, if they balanced the classes a bit more for PVP.

samcharles77_ESO · May 2014

I don't usually play on PVP enabled servers but I might just to kill some gold sellers.

Ragnar_Lodbrok · May 2014

No. The only reason ANYONE would want this is to sit there and gank and grief low level players.

Ajyn · May 2014

It would compliment the Justice-System too. Some other faction kills a NPC from your Alliance, the bounty on them is higher.

Phantorang · May 2014

Yes please!

But we do need a couple of areas that is without PvP, specially newbie zones and certain cities and a few areas in all maps.

Some zones could even allow PvP against others in same alliance, you wouldnt be popular doing it, but should be possible.

Would be absolutely kick ass to have pvp in public dungeons etc.

SilverWF · May 2014

I will kill only that who trying to steal my chest/node while I'm fighting guarding it mob, or someone who just attacking my mobs.

Ragnar_Lodbrok · May 2014

Ajyn wrote: »

It would compliment the Justice-System too. Some other faction kills a NPC from your Alliance, the bounty on them is higher.

No it wouldnt, it would just encourage griefing and ganking.

Strigoimare · May 2014

i'd like that for a day or two, just to kill some bots and make them pay for the launch month madness.

Other than that, no. PVP servers are traditionally deserted in most games. Keep the population together, not separated.

Ajyn · May 2014

Ragnar - That low-level player can bypass that scenario by phasing to another PVP server, or PVE-Only server. They can't gank you if it's not allowed.

wllstrt75b14_ESO · May 2014

Griefers unite is what this thread is all about. And terrible idea. You want pvp go to cyrodill if you can't hang there cause you suck then go find another game.

nerevarine1138 · May 2014

Ajyn wrote: »

Ragnar - That low-level player can bypass that scenario by phasing to another PVP server, or PVE-Only server. They can't gank you if it's not allowed.

The whole point of the megaserver system is to avoid having people segregated like that.

And I have to agree that the only people who really seem to love the idea of open-world PvP are the people who get their rocks off by killing low-level characters. There's plenty of room in Cyrodiil. You don't need the entire map.

redspecter23 · May 2014

As proposed, the pvp servers would be populated by high level players looking to gank low levels who will all have left to do their leveling up on the pve servers. It would be similar to 1000 guys going to the nude beach to check out the naked women and finding nothing but a giant v12 sausage fest.

Ajyn · May 2014

No player is forced to play on the PVP server. By default, it should be PVE.

If players are ready to have All-Zone PVP, they can choose to do so and phase in.

It doesn't stop PVE players from their experience. Cyrodiil is still available.

PVP segregates players already with multiple campaigns.
The population on all of them is extremely low.

theyancey · May 2014

NO

YourNameHere · May 2014

I'll pass.

david271749 · May 2014

Yeah. Good luck with that.

FrauPerchta · May 2014

Bad idea that will drive away most players.

Ajyn · May 2014

For those that don't like the idea, how do other players playing on a PVP server affect you if you are still playing on a PVE server, with access to Cyrodiil?

david271749 · May 2014

Ajyn wrote: »

For those that don't like the idea, how do other players playing on a PVP server affect you if you are still playing on a PVE server, with access to Cyrodiil?

For one, less people to group with in PVE.

tengri · May 2014

No, we dont need PvP wannabes roaming freely outside of Cyrodiil.

Ajyn · May 2014

If there is a lot less people to group in PVE, that means there would be a significant amount of people that would prefer to play on PVP server. PVP is not more popular than PVE, so that is not the case. If the Megaserver is doing it's job, there will still be a solid population on your server.

For guilds that are PVP-based, this will provide variety.

For guilds that are PVE-based, nothing has changed.

Rhoric · May 2014

Not gonna happen. There is two servers. NA and EU. They are megaservers so they are not gonna change that now. Go play another game if you want to play on a PvP server.

david271749 · May 2014

Ajyn wrote: »

If there is a lot less people to group in PVE, that means there would be a significant amount of people that would prefer to play on PVP server. I don't believe that is the case, but if the Megaserver is doing it's job, there will still be a solid population on your server.

For guilds that are PVP-based, this will provide variety.

For guilds that are PVE-based, nothing has changed.

And massive guilds that have a mix of both types?

Ajyn · May 2014

They will have people to group with on either server.

You would not be relegated to playing on one or the other exclusively.

It's just to have the option.

MaxBat · May 2014

No. And again no.

As you suggest, it probably wouldn't effect me initially as a PVE player. What I see is a resource cost issue: is Zeni willing to maintain two sets of servers, one for PVP and one for PVE? I'm guessing no - and if the decision was made then I would expect, at some point, the PVE would be abandoned. Or there would be an increased resource cost which would lead to an increased cost to the game.

But that comment just pretends Zeni would actually listen to your idea. The real problem here is that it is beyond the scope what Zeni has clearly said is the mission for this game.

There are other games that allow this that you can play. Why don't you play those?

david271749 · May 2014

Ajyn wrote: »

They will have people to group with on either server.

You would not be relegated to playing on one or the other exclusively.

It's just to have the option.

Just like you have the choice to go quest in Cyrodil or not?

david271749 · May 2014

Just start a poll on it. See what happens. Make sure it's not obviously biased, and make it so the options leave room for discussion in the comments.

badmojo · May 2014

Options can be good, but not when they split the population between instances. Some zones are already starting to thin out, I don't want to see it get worse. No matter what side of the coin you favor, it will hurt the population.

RDMyers65b14_ESO · May 2014

I don't PVP and when I have tried to PVP in Cyrodil, it was very frustrating because of the VRs would kill you before you saw them. Please leave the main world PVE or make it where you could perhaps toggle if you are willing to PVP. My toggle would stay no but it would let others do what they want.