DragonKnight now too weak to play.

  • Catflinger
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    To the OP: please just go skyshard hunting, spend an hour or so gathering up some more skill points that you've obviously missed, and put them into other skills. That's what this game is about; it's not about putting all your eggs into one basket and then freaking out when something like this inevitably happens.

    Look, I'm leveling a DK too, and I made sure that I had not one but two ultimates available to me by level ten. That's because that even when a class is so crazily and out-of-whack OP as DKs are now, you still want to give yourself options for different situations. You still want to learn how your class works and not assume you're going to always have an instant "I WIN!" button to press all the way to the top.

    Right?
  • Eivar
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    The other day as a joke I started a DK, I beleive he's around level 10 now, wears light armor(no armor on chest and shoudlers) uses no weapons, he just punches and uses class skills. While my dps may be generally a bit lower, I have yet to have any major issues or fights I couldn't get past, balreth was a joke, he didn't make it into the lava once to heal(obviously EP side).

    basically if someone can't play their class because shield bash got nerfed, then they're failing to see their options.
  • Desdemonte
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    elytham wrote: »
    Everyone,

    I've got a level 30 DragonKnight, and I've been using the ultimate DragonKnight shieldbash plan to level up and play the game. With the most recent patch the shield bash system was dramatically gimped, and my character now cannot kill even simplistic enemies anymore. Killing anything takes a long time, and doing a dungeon is impossible without piggybacking on others.

    I looked into resetting my stats, but the amount of gold required for this is nearly 10k, and I don't have anywhere near that amount of gold. I can't quest any gold because I'm too weak to kill the enemies, but I can gather resources, but selling to the NPC is impossibly slow, and there isn't any sort of Auction House system, so I don't know where to go to do any trading. Any guide I search for online either suggests the build I already am using, now obsolete, or there are guides requiring payment.

    I submitted a ticket, and this was the response I got from them.

    Response By Email (Victor) (05/27/2014 02:22 PM)
    Hail, Ceannlaidir Imperli, Defier of Molag Bal and Breaker of Anchors!

    Thank you for contacting The Elder Scrolls Online Team. My name is Victor, and I shall be assisting you on this issue!


    I am very sorry to hear that you are having this issue with your character and build. Unfortunately, with any patch to the game, abilities are likely to change as a balance is sought between all the various forces that fall into place to make characters what they are in The Elder Scrolls Online. Whenever an ability is to be changed, we will usually leave the ability points as they were allocated. If the ability has been changed drastically, we will free those points up so that they can be adjusted.

    You can make sure to know what is happening with each patch that occurs to The Elder Scrolls Online by going to our forums and reviewing any patch notes that are placed there. If we are planning to allow a reallocation of skill points, it will also be noted there for you to review.


    Obviously it's not like I'm saying it's unreasonable to change the skill, but all they did was remove my (2) skill points from the shield bash ability, leaving out the fact that all of my other stats are placed around this build, so ESO team wont help me reset my stats to correct for the change.

    Does anyone have any suggestions? Do I have to start over again?

    Thanks in advance-

    Are you Mother *** Kidding me?!?!?

    I don't even have the words........

    This has to be a troll. This is a perfect example where negative forum rep is needed to shame people away from here.
    Edited by Desdemonte on May 28, 2014 4:34PM
  • Tamanous
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    As a Night blade player I thank you for this absolutely hilarious thread.
  • MrDosu
    MrDosu
    MrDosu wrote: »
    Rofl...

    DKs need a massive nerfbat. Thats not even up for debate...
    "I think DKs are overpowered, but I can't defend that point, so I'm going to say that's not even up for debate."


    *looks at Cyrodiil leaderboards*
    *looks back at MaverickRandomnumber*
    *looks at Trials leaderboard*
    *looks back at MaverickRandomnumber*

    yeah.... debate really makes sense... let's ignore reality and throw dandylions and rainbows all over our imagined player skill for abusing mechanics!
  • blinded-no-moreb16_ESO
    blinded-no-moreb16_ESO
    Soul Shriven
    I'm currently a veteran 3 dragonknight. I've leveled my dk all the way to level 50 with a twohanded build in heavy armor with most points invested in magica. Only in the veteran content I invested my reserve skillpoints (I'm quite the skyshard hunter so I had about 30 to spare) in destro staff and light armor. And recently I decided to level up my sword and board whilst wearing 5 light / 2 heavy armor pieces.

    The point is, no matter where you are in the game, you can decide to just level other skilllines and max out any ability you want while still clearing content in an efficient way.

    I picked a DK at launch because I like fire and so far I have been able to deal with anything the game threw at me while changing skills left and right all the time.

    The game isn't broken rather then challenging and if you are stuck try something new.
    Luxis Firemane: Dragonknight, vampire, gentleman !!!
  • Morticielle
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    elytham wrote: »
    Everyone,

    I've got a level 30 DragonKnight, and I've been using the ultimate DragonKnight shieldbash plan to level up and play the game. With the most recent patch the shield bash system was dramatically gimped, and my character now cannot kill even simplistic enemies anymore. Killing anything takes a long time, and doing a dungeon is impossible without piggybacking on others.

    Let me see, if I understand you right: You relied on a strategy which is simple enough that a four year old could do it and now that shield bash is nerfed you're stymied? And you're asking what to do now?

    Hmm, I smell troll ...
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  • Wifeaggro13
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    elytham wrote: »
    Everyone,

    I've got a level 30 DragonKnight, and I've been using the ultimate DragonKnight shieldbash plan to level up and play the game. With the most recent patch the shield bash system was dramatically gimped, and my character now cannot kill even simplistic enemies anymore. Killing anything takes a long time, and doing a dungeon is impossible without piggybacking on others.

    I looked into resetting my stats, but the amount of gold required for this is nearly 10k, and I don't have anywhere near that amount of gold. I can't quest any gold because I'm too weak to kill the enemies, but I can gather resources, but selling to the NPC is impossibly slow, and there isn't any sort of Auction House system, so I don't know where to go to do any trading. Any guide I search for online either suggests the build I already am using, now obsolete, or there are guides requiring payment.

    I submitted a ticket, and this was the response I got from them.

    Response By Email (Victor) (05/27/2014 02:22 PM)
    Hail, Ceannlaidir Imperli, Defier of Molag Bal and Breaker of Anchors!

    Thank you for contacting The Elder Scrolls Online Team. My name is Victor, and I shall be assisting you on this issue!


    I am very sorry to hear that you are having this issue with your character and build. Unfortunately, with any patch to the game, abilities are likely to change as a balance is sought between all the various forces that fall into place to make characters what they are in The Elder Scrolls Online. Whenever an ability is to be changed, we will usually leave the ability points as they were allocated. If the ability has been changed drastically, we will free those points up so that they can be adjusted.

    You can make sure to know what is happening with each patch that occurs to The Elder Scrolls Online by going to our forums and reviewing any patch notes that are placed there. If we are planning to allow a reallocation of skill points, it will also be noted there for you to review.


    Obviously it's not like I'm saying it's unreasonable to change the skill, but all they did was remove my (2) skill points from the shield bash ability, leaving out the fact that all of my other stats are placed around this build, so ESO team wont help me reset my stats to correct for the change.

    Does anyone have any suggestions? Do I have to start over again?

    Thanks in advance-
    Its not to weak . its every spec but the light armor and destro staff buld is garbage.
    I tanked Black heart haven with my lvl 40 sorc in a tank build. we blew through the instance at lvl. then the same players logged on VR chrs with my VR 12 heavy armor wearing DK and it was absloutely depressing expierence. our group of at lvl sorcs and 1 temp blew through the instance while our heavy wearing DK and 2 NB's all VR took longer and and died more. all they wanted was achivements.

    I suspect when my sorc is V12 ill will have a far better tank that has more CC then DK. Ive no desire to make my Orc meat shield a god damn dress and stick spec the balance in this game is terrible in the VR levels.
  • Hypertionb14_ESO
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    you submitted a ticket complaining about ability changes?

    ok... well besides that saying everything about you, i will say that Shield bash was a crutch... a boring one too.

    i currently use the following skill setup, Shield Charge, Power bash, Flame Lash, Green Dragons Blood, Invigorating Drain.

    i charge in and double lash, drain, then PB and double lash again.. nothing really survives this.

    Power Bash works wonders as a lasting stun if you just bash and dont attack after. you can recover stats pretty easily like that.
    I play every class in every situation. I love them all.
  • Maverick827
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    MrDosu wrote: »
    MrDosu wrote: »
    Rofl...

    DKs need a massive nerfbat. Thats not even up for debate...
    "I think DKs are overpowered, but I can't defend that point, so I'm going to say that's not even up for debate."


    *looks at Cyrodiil leaderboards*
    *looks back at MaverickRandomnumber*
    *looks at Trials leaderboard*
    *looks back at MaverickRandomnumber*

    yeah.... debate really makes sense... let's ignore reality and throw dandylions and rainbows all over our imagined player skill for abusing mechanics!
    Did you have a point somewhere in this garbage post?
  • Wifeaggro13
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    you submitted a ticket complaining about ability changes?

    ok... well besides that saying everything about you, i will say that Shield bash was a crutch... a boring one too.

    i currently use the following skill setup, Shield Charge, Power bash, Flame Lash, Green Dragons Blood, Invigorating Drain.

    i charge in and double lash, drain, then PB and double lash again.. nothing really survives this.

    Power Bash works wonders as a lasting stun if you just bash and dont attack after. you can recover stats pretty easily like that.

    shield bash was a joke and in know way do i condone that. but if your using that technique in heavy armor in any multi mob pull in cladwells gold you will run out of magica by your second mob.
    I was flabber gasted about how *** our AOE life tap was on lvl 40 mobs. Honestly the DK is now a caster in end game .
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