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Should the cost of a respec in EOS be drastically reduced

  • demonlkojipub19_ESO
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    They need to reduce it, especially if they are going to be doing skill changes, tooltip or functionality, without refunding them.

    1.1.2 changed the tooltips for a lot of skills to match what they actually do, or changed the skill totally, but did not refund. One such skill is Poison mist, Mist form morph. It previously said that it dealt poison damage every 1/2 second, tho when you actually use it you only get 3 tics of poison damage. Now after 1.1.2 it reads it deals poison damage every 1.5 seconds. I wouldnt have bothered with that if it had said that first. Now in order to change that, or to just get the skillpoint back because I dont like other morph of mist form either, I have to respec EVERYTHING, costing me more than needed.

    Just one skill out of a bunch.

    Either they reduce the cost per skillpoint, or make it so you can select skill lines or separate skills to respec. One of the two would suffice.
  • DrPainZA
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    Respec cost is fair
    Well I wouldn't say it's fair. But then again you are only hurting yourself by re-specking every week.

    Think about it this way, you invest in a brand new skill line and your already level 40. That means that that skill is still in it's infancy and you have to play through for it to become effective.

    Personally I would rather have 3-6 skills at 40+ when 20 lvl 8 skills.
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  • Jeddahwe
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    Not only do they need to reduce the cost I want dual spec feature!

    In any case why do you think so many buy gold online? Its because they want to use that gold in game..and what's the largest gold sink in game? Maybe respec? Horse?

    I have yet to hit 50 so I have no need for gold right now other than to repair but if I want to try tanking, healing, melee with the class that gives me the most fun that is 100k GOLD...ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND! Well it can hit that crazy number...

    Ill say it again:

    GOLD SELLING WEBSITES love the current respec cost!
  • Blackwidow
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    Sarenia wrote: »
    you are only hurting yourself by re-specking every week.

    Think about it this way, you invest in a brand new skill line and your already level 40. That means that that skill is still in it's infancy and you have to play through for it to become effective.

    It's called trying different builds.

    Most people find this to be fun and it helps players learn their character better.

    That helps everyone in the long run.
  • Raash
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    One thought tho, what do you need the money for? Must have missed something. Once you have a horse, all motifs there are Only repairs, crafing mats & respecs left to spend them on sort of? Does it really matter if respec costs are high?
  • Blackwidow
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    Raash wrote: »
    One thought tho, what do you need the money for?

    I can't take that question seriously.
  • Winnower
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    Give a free respec once a week - per account.

    OR

    Reduce the overall costs.

    OR

    Make it so that you can respec any given skill or attribute, and leave cost/point where it is.

    Any of these work just fine. And why not do it? Allowing people more flexibility in builds this way encourages people to try more stuff. This will be good for the Game.
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  • Lodestar
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    Yes, and don't charge a full respec for ALL points. Just charge for the ones you need to move.
  • p.hurst1b16_ESO
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    It is very unfair at present.

    I think it should be like this ..

    a) Skill Reset

    1g per point then
    5g per point then
    10g per point then
    25g per point then
    50g per point and that is the cap.

    b) Stat Reset

    500g then
    1000g then
    2000g then
    4000g then
    5000g and that is the cap.


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  • Blackwidow
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    It is very unfair at present.

    I think it should be like this ..

    a) Skill Reset

    1g per point then
    5g per point then
    10g per point then
    25g per point then
    50g per point and that is the cap.

    b) Stat Reset

    500g then
    1000g then
    2000g then
    4000g then
    5000g and that is the cap.


    Or do that by level.

    1 gold per point for the first ten levels
    5 gold per point for11-20

    Etc.
    Edited by Blackwidow on May 26, 2014 11:13AM
  • DiktaHasi
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    I think most of the players are fine with 100g or even 500g per skill reset. BUT there need to be an option to reset only single skills or even only single skill lines or just the morphs or something like that. as others said: paying about 20k for 1 morph that is buggy is just stupid...
  • ShADoW0s
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    It would not be a dam problem if I can make ults more easily.
  • Svann
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    If you actually knew what the morphs did before you chose them then it would be fair. But the skill descriptions are incomplete, often misleading, and sometimes the skills are just bugged.
  • DeLindsay
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    If not a reduction, I'd like to see 2 options:

    1) Current all or nothing at 100g/point
    2) A-La-Cart (pick your points, like Morphs) but at a higher cost, like 300g/point

    The Attribute cost of 4900 at level 50 is fine tbh.
  • czar
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    or at least you should be able to lock the skills you intend to keep so you only reset those you want to change
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  • RianaTheBosmer
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    I'll say it again, any time they "balance" a class, they need to refund ALL skill points. SWTOR does this and it works very well. ESO devs, be smarter. Use some of the things other games do to make your game better.
  • KitLightning
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    Respec cost is fair
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  • Eylith
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    Respec cost is fair
    It will be nice to be able to respec only the points you want, not the whole thing. But, common, the price is fair. 100 gold per points, I have ~150 points, so 15k is fair. I read somewhere you can have a max 300 skills points, means 30k. Doesn't feel much to me.

    People who aren't happy with the current state : did you try to gather as much skills points as you can get ? I mean, if you have 200/250 skills points, you could do multiple spec instead of just one or two...
    Edited by Eylith on May 26, 2014 1:42PM
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  • Jeremy_gelber_ESO
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    to me its simple. we need a morph/skilltree respec system. why? well they fixed mutagen. i picked rapid regen because i knew mutagen didnt work. now it works. and im supposed to pay 15k because the devs finally figured out the bug? the opposite is also true. they are in the process of nerfing biting jabs. following their previous example they'll refund the 2 points spent in biting jabs. but what about the passives i invested in to make jabs better. another 15k.

    we're supposed to pick these skills from a 1/2 line of "also does this now" with no ability to see if that actually works or is usefull. its a bad system.
  • SilverWF
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    They just need allow us to drop some skills by our choise, not "all or nothing".
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  • etherin77
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    i was to lazy to read all the comments (also im pre-cafinated) but like im sure has been metioned pay per point changed, show a before and after page of skills/attributes and it calculates the cost
    Edited by etherin77 on May 26, 2014 3:26PM
  • rowdog
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    I would be happy to pay 1000 gold to switch the morph of a skill.

    I like to experiment with skills and I'm happy with the freedom I have, but there's no way I'm going to pay for a full respec just to find out that, yes, Crystal Blast is still terrible so now I need to pay for another respec just to get back to Crystal Fragments.

    Yup, people who play with builds have to pay for TWO respecs, not just one.

    Encouraging people to play with builds encourages build diversity. Right now, Zenimax is encouraging a cookie cutter mentality when it comes to morphs. No one in their right mind would ever pick Crystal Blast over Crystal Fragments once they've learned just how deceptive the tooltips can be.

    As a bonus, those people who messed up a morph or two can just mend their characters rather than completely redo all skills.
  • patrykplawskib16_ESO
    Reduce the cost of respec
    This is something that must be done people like me and others like to experiment builds but we have no way of doing em but paying over 10k!!!!! just to try out maybe 7 new abailites in combos, makes no sense and kills the diversion in the game.
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  • SeinSchatten
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    Reduce respec or create a test area with dummys and free respeccing.
  • Nooblet
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    I just got cost 1k to use /stuck because i had recently teleported and then i got stuck. That is pretty ridiculous imo. They couldn't think of a better system?

    Maybe the price is fair if I need 1k for something as simple as getting unstuck.
  • Blackwidow
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    Nooblet wrote: »
    I just got cost 1k to use /stuck because i had recently teleported and then i got stuck. That is pretty ridiculous imo. They couldn't think of a better system?

    Maybe the price is fair if I need 1k for something as simple as getting unstuck.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/101829/take-my-advice-don-t-be-a-sucker#latest
  • indytims_ESO
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    I firmly believe respeccing should be embraced - not used as a money-sink. That being said, I firmly believe the first respec should be FREE, then a cost associated with it that climbs slowly after each respec. Sometimes accidents happen - not every single player is a skilled expert number-cruncher. Experimentation should be rewarded and encouraged.
  • Blackwidow
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    Reduce the cost of respec
    I firmly believe respeccing should be embraced - not used as a money-sink. That being said, I firmly believe the first respec should be FREE, then a cost associated with it that climbs slowly after each respec. Sometimes accidents happen - not every single player is a skilled expert number-cruncher. Experimentation should be rewarded and encouraged.

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  • AlienPrimate
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    Something I think that would be cool is of they made rare items that drop from mobs that allow reverting a single skill, morph, or attribute point. This would make it free of gold cost unless you buy them from other players while still making it take effort to respec.
  • ozgod22_eso
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    From reading this thread I think the one thing EVERYONE agrees on, no matter how they voted, is that there should be some way to respec morphs without having to pay 20k or more to reset everything. Skill points are in abundance but it's very annoying to pay 20k to change one morph because you picked one that worked for levelling your character but when you got to Vet level and decided you wanted to do trials or PvP you needed to remorph it. Even if they decided to charge 500g per morph change I would still happily pay it and consider it a bargain from having to pay 20k.
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