Spears

Wolfshead · May 2014

I have been wondering why are no mmo out there that have make use of spear i mean really make use of them sure WoW have them and AoC have them but what i guess i'm ask for why don't we have spears in ESO i would surely use spears as weapon to be total honest i hope it could be add to game

ArcanusMagus · May 2014

Wolfshead wrote: »

I have been wondering why are no mmo out there that have make use of spear i mean really make use of them sure WoW have them and AoC have them but what i guess i'm ask for why don't we have spears in ESO i would surely use spears as weapon to be total honest i hope it could be add to game

Yeah, and put them under woodworking!

Aedh · May 2014

This.

Spears and other polearms. And fist fighting as well. A lot of people want/like those, and yet it's not that easy to find a RPG/MMORPG including them.

Heck, both of those were skills in Morrowind, I would like to see their return

dodgehopper_ESO · May 2014

Spear+Shield would also look wonderful while playing as a Templar.
I'd love to see two spear skills. Longspear (2handed), Short Spear + Shield (1handed).

A fist skill line would be neat also, and I would hope it had unique qualities to its use. Things like knockdowns, sand in the eyes, stuns, etc. Would be a nice set up for magic attacks type of a weapon line.

AlexDougherty · May 2014

Indeed spears are quite easy to code, infact the Aedric spear ability for templars is an excellent base to spears. Polearms can be trickier, but could still be done.

Staffs (nonmagical) would be more troublesome, but they are in some (swtor for example) and could be introduced too.

Aeradon · May 2014

"Polish my spear."

Lol. I want combat staffs. Like seriously, animation is tough though.

Wolfshead · May 2014

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Spear+Shield would also look wonderful while playing as a Templar.
I'd love to see two spear skills. Longspear (2handed), Short Spear + Shield (1handed).

Yeah Short Spear + Shield would be really nice to see i think i have not see that combo in any mmo yet and if Zenimax would add i think the would be 1st company use that feature in mmo please add to game

wizzerd_lg_ESO · May 2014

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

I'd love to see two spear skills. Longspear (2handed), Short Spear + Shield (1handed).

I'm all for them adding short spears as one handed weapons, but I don't think they really need a distinct skill. Longspear/Polearm skill on the other hand is high on my want list (Somewhere near unarmed and crossbows, but lower than getting the frikkin' game to work)

Alith Veyren · May 2014

There are spears in the original GW with the Nightfall Campaign... But I don't think you'll count that

Wolfshead · May 2014

Alith Veyren wrote: »

There are spears in the original GW with the Nightfall Campaign... But I don't think you'll count that

Yeah that is true i total forgot about that expansion to GW

but still it would be nice to have 1h spear + shield and only 1h spear and 2h polearm i would love to have bardiche the look so cool

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Monkeyshoeslive · May 2014

Spears are cool. But I'd much rather see the spell casting system from skyrim implemented.

OutlandishMachine · May 2015

Yeah, I'm all for this.
Some ideas for the skills and names in a polearm line (all damage values are undecided):
Light attack: A simple jab or a slash.
Heavy attack: Like an overhead downwards stab?

Ability 1: Quick Strike - Lash out at the enemy, dealing X damage and reducing the target's damage by X% for 10 seconds.
Morph 1: Wrenching Strike - Stab the enemy in the gut, causing X damage and bleed for X damage over 10 seconds.
Morph 2: Spinning Lashes - Spin around, dealing X damage to all enemies, knocking them back 4 metres.

Ability 2: Leaping Stab - Leap upon the enemy with a vicious downwards strike, dealing X damage and causing bleed for X damage over 4 seconds.
Morph 1: Silencing Leap - Launch yourself at the enemy and deal X damage to target and X bleed damage over 4 seconds. Casting targets are set off balance.
Morph 2: Lightning Strike - Teleport to the enemy in a flash of lightning, dealing X magic damage and always hits critically. Scales off magicka.

Ability 3: Leg Sweep - Sweep the legs out from under the enemy, dealing X damage and knocking them down for 2 seconds.
Morph 1: Shattering Sweep - Shatter the enemy's leg, leaving them immobile after they get up for 4 seconds.
Morph 2: Vicious Swing - Knock down all enemies in front of you for 2 seconds, dealing X damage spread across all hit.

Ability 4: Ending Blow - Jump up and stab downwards at the enemy, dealing X damage, scaling up to X% based on the target's health (more damage against injured enemies).
Morph 1: Heaven's Fist - Invoke the Aedra to lend you their strength, jumping up and dealing X magic damage scaling up to X% based on the target's health (more damage against injured enemies). Now scales off max magicka.
Morph 2: Cruel Ending - Stab the enemy at their weakest point, dealing X damage, scaling up to X% based on the target's health. Damage also increased against enemies that are knocked down.

Ability 5: Spear Whirl: Spin your weapon in a defensive stance, blocking all projectiles over 3 seconds.
Morph 1: Charged Stance - Charge your spear with blue light (like inner light looking), blocking all spell projectiles over 4 seconds. Scales off magicka.
Morph 2: Shielding Whirl - Spin your weapon in a defensive stance, blocking all projectiles over 3 seconds. Provides an X damage shield when effect ends.

Feel free to leave other ability ideas below - I'd love to hear what you think!
Please tell me below if you want more ESO weapon theory

PKMN12 · May 2015

Monkeyshoeslive wrote: »

Spears are cool. But I'd much rather see the spell casting system from skyrim implemented.

well, that is never going to happen, so i would not even bother thinking about it.

Honestly, that is a good point, not many RPGs have spears in them, Final Fantasy is the only series that i can think of that has them as a relativley common part of the game.

WOW also had pole arms in the game, but were gotten rid of for some reason after the update that changed the whole weapons skill system.

GW has already been said.

DCUO kind of has them combined with a combat quarterstaff, because of this, the ones in-game are never used as an ACTUAL spear, so it only kinds of counts

Lotro has them for the Warden class

that is all i can think of off the top of my head (besides morrowind obviously)

Its sad really, because the Final fantasy dragoon and TES's Acrobat (When it uses a polearm) are some of my favorite character classes.

Argoniawind · May 2015

Morrowind spears are the only spears that should be implemented!!

PKMN12 · May 2015

Argoniawind wrote: »

Morrowind spears are the only spears that should be implemented!!

um, spears are spears, morrowind has spears no different then most games that have it,

Well, besides the jumping part from Final fantasy, but that might be added simply for lack of variety and would serve as an awesome gap closer.

Argoniawind · May 2015

PKMN12 wrote: »

Argoniawind wrote: »

Morrowind spears are the only spears that should be implemented!!

um, spears are spears, morrowind has spears no different then most games that have it,

Well, besides the jumping part from Final fantasy, but that might be added simply for lack of variety and would serve as an awesome gap closer.

Unless you played Morrowind, know that spears are not just like every other spear in other games... They have been the begging selection since they removed them from future ES games!!!!

Ley · May 2015

For all of you who have never seen an MMO with spears, Conquer Online had spears, they were pretty strong and a lot of fun. The spear skills focused on long reach and wide spread sweeps.

Anyways, I think spears would be a cool addition.

PKMN12 · May 2015

Argoniawind wrote: »

PKMN12 wrote: »

Argoniawind wrote: »

Morrowind spears are the only spears that should be implemented!!

um, spears are spears, morrowind has spears no different then most games that have it,

Well, besides the jumping part from Final fantasy, but that might be added simply for lack of variety and would serve as an awesome gap closer.

Unless you played Morrowind, know that spears are not just like every other spear in other games... They have been the begging selection since they removed them from future ES games!!!!

stil not sure what in the world you are talking about. you will NEVER have morrowinds combat system in this game, completely different style of gameplay, and as i said, a spear is a spear, kind of hard to screw it up or tell the difference.

Divad Zarn · May 2015

Dont forget crossbows.

Argoniawind · May 2015

PKMN12 wrote: »

Argoniawind wrote: »

PKMN12 wrote: »

Argoniawind wrote: »

Morrowind spears are the only spears that should be implemented!!

um, spears are spears, morrowind has spears no different then most games that have it,

Well, besides the jumping part from Final fantasy, but that might be added simply for lack of variety and would serve as an awesome gap closer.

Unless you played Morrowind, know that spears are not just like every other spear in other games... They have been the begging selection since they removed them from future ES games!!!!

stil not sure what in the world you are talking about. you will NEVER have morrowinds combat system in this game, completely different style of gameplay, and as i said, a spear is a spear, kind of hard to screw it up or tell the difference.

Im not talking about Morrowinds dice role combat system, im talking only about Morrowinds Spears. Morrowinds spears are the best spears ever created. Since I am an Argonian I get a bonus for using them in that game.... Spears are not spears maybe in other games but not in Morrowind!!

TheShadowScout · May 2015

I'm all for a full polearm skill line. Who among those who has watched the red viper take on the mountain in "game of thrones" hasn't wished for something along those lines for a character of theirs after all? And adding one-handed short spears to the sword&board skill line as additional weapon option seens like a decent idea as well.

Other weapon options too (crossbows!), but that's a different thread.

Morimizo · May 2015

OutlandishMachine wrote: »

Yeah, I'm all for this.
Some ideas for the skills and names in a polearm line (all damage values are undecided):
Light attack: A simple jab or a slash.
Heavy attack: Like an overhead downwards stab?

Ability 1: Quick Strike - Lash out at the enemy, dealing X damage and reducing the target's damage by X% for 10 seconds.
Morph 1: Wrenching Strike - Stab the enemy in the gut, causing X damage and bleed for X damage over 10 seconds.
Morph 2: Spinning Lashes - Spin around, dealing X damage to all enemies, knocking them back 4 metres.

Ability 2: Leaping Stab - Leap upon the enemy with a vicious downwards strike, dealing X damage and causing bleed for X damage over 4 seconds.
Morph 1: Silencing Leap - Launch yourself at the enemy and deal X damage to target and X bleed damage over 4 seconds. Casting targets are set off balance.
Morph 2: Lightning Strike - Teleport to the enemy in a flash of lightning, dealing X magic damage and always hits critically. Scales off magicka.

Ability 3: Leg Sweep - Sweep the legs out from under the enemy, dealing X damage and knocking them down for 2 seconds.
Morph 1: Shattering Sweep - Shatter the enemy's leg, leaving them immobile after they get up for 4 seconds.
Morph 2: Vicious Swing - Knock down all enemies in front of you for 2 seconds, dealing X damage spread across all hit.

Ability 4: Ending Blow - Jump up and stab downwards at the enemy, dealing X damage, scaling up to X% based on the target's health (more damage against injured enemies).
Morph 1: Heaven's Fist - Invoke the Aedra to lend you their strength, jumping up and dealing X magic damage scaling up to X% based on the target's health (more damage against injured enemies). Now scales off max magicka.
Morph 2: Cruel Ending - Stab the enemy at their weakest point, dealing X damage, scaling up to X% based on the target's health. Damage also increased against enemies that are knocked down.

Ability 5: Spear Whirl: Spin your weapon in a defensive stance, blocking all projectiles over 3 seconds.
Morph 1: Charged Stance - Charge your spear with blue light (like inner light looking), blocking all spell projectiles over 4 seconds. Scales off magicka.
Morph 2: Shielding Whirl - Spin your weapon in a defensive stance, blocking all projectiles over 3 seconds. Provides an X damage shield when effect ends.

Feel free to leave other ability ideas below - I'd love to hear what you think!

These are great ideas; definitely would enjoy these skills!! Very well distributed between stamina, magicka, offensive, defensive, and crowd control.

Frenkthevile · May 2015

Argoniawind wrote: »

PKMN12 wrote: »

Argoniawind wrote: »

Morrowind spears are the only spears that should be implemented!!

um, spears are spears, morrowind has spears no different then most games that have it,

Well, besides the jumping part from Final fantasy, but that might be added simply for lack of variety and would serve as an awesome gap closer.

Unless you played Morrowind, know that spears are not just like every other spear in other games... They have been the begging selection since they removed them from future ES games!!!!

Yeah i want spears back!

Ajaxduo · May 2015

Polearms pls

Van_0S · October 2015

Wolfshead wrote: »

I have been wondering why are no mmo out there that have make use of spear i mean really make use of them sure WoW have them and AoC have them but what i guess i'm ask for why don't we have spears in ESO i would surely use spears as weapon to be total honest i hope it could be add to game

Spears( the dragoon class) are there in Final fantasy XIV a realm reborn.

Kuroinu · October 2015

FFXI and to a lesser extent FFXIV had lances, spears and the like. Bad MMOs can't handle variety!

ZioGio · October 2015

What made spears fun in LotRO (as a Warden) is that's the only game (that I've played) where spears were a thrusting weapon instead of an arcing, slicing, or sweeping weapon.

We get some of that with Templar Aedric Spear animations. I think incorporating those animations to a thrusting spear weapon line would be fun.

Soulshine · October 2015

Definitely missing them and my Warden tank from LoTRO, by far a pretty amazing class and super fun as a tank rather than usual meat-wall, cookie cutter type of tank most games offer. It took some thinking and some skill to play one... at least before they ripped the class system to shreads in HD. Spears were crafted with woodworking and included in legendary weapons system and the combat animations were pretty interesting with them. Hunters could also use them though not in the same way.

It would be nice to see spears here for my Templar

RAGUNAnoOne · October 2015

Divad Zarn wrote: »

Dont forget crossbows.

Fighters guild

reiverx · October 2015

I did enjoy a spear build in Demon's/Dark Souls.

Asherons_Call · October 2015

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