Great thing about IT, if you apply a change you can roll it back. They will watch for a day or two, if they see they completely messed up they will roll it back, if just minor tweaks they will do tweaks.

Just wait a few days.

Salsadoom wrote: »

Great thing about IT, if you apply a change you can roll it back. They will watch for a day or two, if they see they completely messed up they will roll it back, if just minor tweaks they will do tweaks.

Just wait a few days.

They can't wait a "couple of days" and do a roll back, that will seal the coffin on ESO. They have to do something right now, not later.

Dont forget they mistakenly deleted an entire pvp campaign today as well.

I expect if they messed it up enough it will be done quicker, or at least the change to NB undone.

Can't say anything about the other issues, I do think they should of waited a bit longer before launch.

Games unplayable solo right now past level 50 solo unless you don't mind dying every few minutes, and if you progress you will probably just get stuck in the rollback bug and loose all that progress anyways.

So hows that craglorn?

If they were smart enough to do that, they'd have less of an issue with rollbacks than they do.

kaosodin wrote: »

Im enjoying the game, it has problems, as long as I see progress every few weeks im good.

Old school mmo gamer. Growing pains, give it 6 months

EQ was my first MMO and I've played them on and off ever since, but at some point it's not unreasonable to ask a company making a new MMO to learn from the mistakes of previous MMOs. If it was going to take them another six months to polish the game, they should've released in six months and not when they did.

kaosodin wrote: »

Lol im reading these responces, all you arm chair coders. If you dont do it as a living, stfu. Guys working at dunken donuts talking aboit how dumb these programmers are.

Human nature is terrible.

I work for a software company, but thanks anyway...

I don't think it's unfair to ask ZOS to review their PTS and internal testing procedures. It's incredible how they've neglected Nightblades so far considering the base class system is a cornerstone of the game, not to mention several other issues that PTS players have claimed to have been reported during beta or during test cycles. I'm not going to jump on them for making mistakes, but releasing new content before fixing beta issues is pretty ridiculous.

Salsadoom wrote: »

Great thing about IT, if you apply a change you can roll it back. They will watch for a day or two, if they see they completely messed up they will roll it back, if just minor tweaks they will do tweaks.

Just wait a few days.

What IT world do you live in? If we ever roll out software, updates or modifications that break something...a process that begins by the formation of what is called "A War Room" starts and at least one IT Director leads it. The people responsible for the change (as logged in the Change management meeting) are either in the room or on the conference call explaining exactly how it will be fixed in the next hour, how it got passed our testing and certification process (those people are in the room and asses on the line too) and when it is fixed detailed documentation and Post Mortem explanations are required in 72 hours.

Find yourself in a War Room more than once in a year and you will be part of a Red Pen meeting where you are escorted out the door by security with all of your belongings.

This kind of Mickey Mouse stuff would get most real IT people fired in a heart beat. I would love to watch our directors stroke out when someone said "Just wait a few days and we will do some tweaks".

Farham wrote: »

Salsadoom wrote: »

Great thing about IT, if you apply a change you can roll it back. They will watch for a day or two, if they see they completely messed up they will roll it back, if just minor tweaks they will do tweaks.

Just wait a few days.

What IT world do you live in? If we ever roll out software, updates or modifications that break something...a process that begins by the formation of what is called "A War Room" starts and at least one IT Director leads it. The people responsible for the change (as logged in the Change management meeting) are either in the room or on the conference call explaining exactly how it will be fixed in the next hour, how it got passed our testing and certification process (those people are in the room and asses on the line too) and when it is fixed detailed documentation and Post Mortem explanations are required in 72 hours.

Find yourself in a War Room more than once in a year and you will be part of a Red Pen meeting where you are escorted out the door by security with all of your belongings.

This kind of Mickey Mouse stuff would get most real IT people fired in a heart beat. I would love to watch our directors stroke out when someone said "Just wait a few days and we will do some tweaks".

Zenimax needs to hire a lot more security

Farham wrote: »

What IT world do you live in? If we ever roll out software, updates or modifications that break something...a process that begins by the formation of what is called "A War Room" starts and at least one IT Director leads it. The people responsible for the change (as logged in the Change management meeting) are either in the room or on the conference call explaining exactly how it will be fixed in the next hour, how it got passed our testing and certification process (those people are in the room and asses on the line too) and when it is fixed detailed documentation and Post Mortem explanations are required in 72 hours.

Find yourself in a War Room more than once in a year and you will be part of a Red Pen meeting where you are escorted out the door by security with all of your belongings.

This kind of Mickey Mouse stuff would get most real IT people fired in a heart beat. I would love to watch our directors stroke out when someone said "Just wait a few days and we will do some tweaks".

QFT. now...it really depends on the maintenance you do. some are smaller and based on the technology your working on, its straightforward. drop in a new config into a router...oh what? your port channel isn't working? aight, we back out and check it out.

this isn't a small patch. servers like this probably needed dozens of changes and updates. this kind of stuff doesn't roll back. At least in my job, if something this size breaks, you stay on the bridge till its fixed. I've had a few 72 hour days, let me tell ya.

On the Topic...

This is ... wow....pretty big. I never thought a designer like zeni would drop the ball this bad. from the borked classes and glitches to the bugs (and bots taking advantage of the bugs), now this patch...

wow...Im really speechless. if i didn't have a brand new toon i just started, I'd probably be playing something else right now. and if I don't see the appropriate fixes down the pipeline soon...well, wildstar is on the horizon.

And I can tell ya from experience that not even 1/4 of the issues we are seeing in this game during its actual release and first patch are in that one, even during beta.

this companies gotta get its head on straight and figure out how its going to save it's player base. This is the first time in a decade + half of playing MMO's that im really not sure if a game will make it. And this is after playing games that have had some shaky releases (SWtOR as an example).

We'll see. I usually prefer to give the dev's the benefit of the doubt (im in the field myself, albeit different aspect). My gut feeling on this one isn't good though.