My Hair Changed

Maverick827 · May 2014

I realize this might be a small issue, but with patch 1.1, the hair that I had chosen for one of my characters was changed. Here's a before and after:

Before: http://i.imgur.com/1avaAZh.png
After: http://i.imgur.com/3wPBEku.png

Notice how far out the hair goes on the after picture. I don't like it this way. The face also looks a bit different, but I can chalk this up to lighting.

This is especially concerning because there is no way to change your hair style, and I don't think we'll be getting one for a long time.

Zenimax, was this an intended change to this mesh? Is there anything you can do to help me pick a new hair style?

ZiRM · May 2014

My characters features have changed from hair, eyebrows to other features. What a complete mess.

nerevarine1138 · May 2014

I mean, the hair looks a little thicker in the second shot, but I had to flip back and forth about 6 times to see it.

Natjur · May 2014

The helm clipping 'fix' did some small changes to some hair styles

Anvos · May 2014

Not sure as its hard to tell if its more a lighting and color of armor issue.

Maybe the second is a little thicker but not much.

Maverick827 · May 2014

It's easy to tell when it's your own character

Seriously, a response to this would be great.

kaosodin · May 2014

Awww let it go,

Maverick827 · May 2014

kaosodin wrote: »

Awww let it go,

Why? Maybe this wasn't intended. Maybe they'll be cool enough to change a "5" to an "8" in a database for me so I have a different hairstyle that I like? Who knows.

JosephChip · May 2014

It didn't change hairstyle. It only slightly altered that particular style. It looks better in the second picture by the way. Looks more like hair and less like plastic strings.

redwoodtreesprite · May 2014

Without a barber in game to let you adjust your character's looks, this is a big deal.

Maverick827 · May 2014

JosephChip wrote: »

It didn't change hairstyle. It only slightly altered that particular style. It looks better in the second picture by the way. Looks more like hair and less like plastic strings.

This is a matter of opinion. To me, it looks like some ridiculous bowl cut.

redwoodtreesprite wrote: »

Without a barber in game to let you adjust your character's looks, this is a big deal.

Exactly, thank you for some rationality.

Reykice · May 2014

This is a very big deal some MMO`s make tons of money because people buy stuff to look how they want. With no way to change it... its a very big deal here.

I`m on the EU server and i just made some screen shots to make sure mine stays the same.... thank you for letting us know.

WhimsyDragon · May 2014

Ooh I actually personally really like the change... I'm in favor of more hairstyles with bangs/wisps like this to frame the face. Females have too many tightly pulled back styles that look harsh from the front instead of soft and feminine.

kaosodin · May 2014

Difference of opinion, the change was so minore, it didnt fire off my ocd. And strikes me odd so many getting fired up over a minor graphical adjustment.

Take the good with the bad, as long as there pushing the rock in the right direction, there will be some collateral damage.

TheGrandAlliance · May 2014

Guys: Plz post ur male/female/race combo option so we know if everyone changed or just some combinations....

Maverick827 · May 2014

kaosodin wrote: »

Difference of opinion, the change was so minore, it didnt fire off my ocd. And strikes me odd so many getting fired up over a minor graphical adjustment.

Take the good with the bad, as long as there pushing the rock in the right direction, there will be some collateral damage.

Why does everyone always take everything to the extreme? How am I getting "fired up" over this?

Evergnar · May 2014

At least your character doesn't look like circus clown now. She still looks good although slightly different.

mwiewandtb14a_ESO · May 2014

I noticed my character's face is different. Am I imagining things? He looks SUPER angry now, whereas before he was just mildly unamused.

TheGrandAlliance · May 2014

mwiewandtb14a_ESO wrote: »

I noticed my character's face is different. Am I imagining things? He looks SUPER angry now, whereas before he was just mildly unamused.

What race?

Bookwyrm · May 2014

Oooh, that is different. Now I want to be able to get logged back in to see if any of mine have changed. Yeah I kind of like the pre-patch hair better, although it might be the lighting (it looks more real). I do like the "fuller" bangs, though. And the face does look different. It's "softer" now. Not as long, and the jawline has been softened. The eyebrows also look different although this *could* be because of the hair. Eyes and lips look different as well, but that could be lighting/angle differences.

randomriffyrocksprerb18_ESO · May 2014

LOMG, I TOTES UNDERSTAND UR PROBLEM GUURRLFIREENDD

Maverick827 · May 2014

So now that things have settled down a bit, I would love a reply from Zenimax about this issue.

skarvika · May 2014

Whoa, that sucks that that happened to you. They really should not change people's base looks without at least having a barbershop / recustomization feature available. I agree, the before hair looked better. New hair looks chunky and rubbery.

EORizzo_ESO · May 2014

The issue is not whether the before or after looked better. The issue is that ESO HAS CHANGED THE DESIGN OF OUR CHARACTERS WITHOUT OUR CONSENT, and (to boot) without any ability to adjust them in-game via barbershop.

This exact problem happened with one of my characters, whom I spent painstaking hours designing. I can't stand the way she looks now, and to me there is a very big difference. But even that is not the point. The point is that ESO altered our character design without warning or consent, and when you have a dedicated base of RPG players to whom the smallest character customization details matter, this is a MAJOR issue. A violation of trust in the preservation of our carefully developed characters, in fact.

Con64 · May 2014

Yep.... same here!?

SeventhJaff · May 2014

mwiewandtb14a_ESO wrote: »

I noticed my character's face is different. Am I imagining things? He looks SUPER angry now, whereas before he was just mildly unamused.

The "angry" expression that your character has is nothing permanent, the issue behind that is the blacksmithing, somehow your character's face expression locks after the crafting animation. Simply after re-loging your character's face will be back to normal.

jimdove · May 2014

It does look like 2 diff characters, either way, would bang both

Maverick827 · May 2014

EORizzo_ESO wrote: »

The issue is not whether the before or after looked better. The issue is that ESO HAS CHANGED THE DESIGN OF OUR CHARACTERS WITHOUT OUR CONSENT, and (to boot) without any ability to adjust them in-game via barbershop.

This exact problem happened with one of my characters, whom I spent painstaking hours designing. I can't stand the way she looks now, and to me there is a very big difference. But even that is not the point. The point is that ESO altered our character design without warning or consent, and when you have a dedicated base of RPG players to whom the smallest character customization details matter, this is a MAJOR issue. A violation of trust in the preservation of our carefully developed characters, in fact.

Yeah, it's not about whether or not I like the new look. I mean, if I did, I suppose I wouldn't have made a thread, but it's just not a good practice in general, especially without a barber/face sculptor.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno‌

Can we please get a response to this change? Is it intended? Can anything be done to revert it or let us pick a different hair style?

curlyqloub14_ESO · May 2014

Omg, I thought I was going crazy when I logged in after the patch and thought - why does my character look different? Is her hair is thicker and puffier now?

But I had no screenshots with my face so I wasn't sure. I have the same hairstyle, and yes, the change is subtle, but it's glaring to me, and I hate it! That hairstyle was pretty much the only one I liked of all the options, and now it's bad too.

The bangs are so big now they cover my facial markings and eyebrows - features that I spent a good deal of time choosing to get a look that I really liked. This new hair reminds me of a ditzy teenager with giant bangs flopping in her face. As someone else said "chunky and rubbery".

Not sure about my actual face shape, but since the OP mentioned it - my face also seems a bit more soft and round to me now. Again, thought I was just imagining things, but since I'm not the only one seeing this, maybe the face shape was changed.

Why Zeni, why? Why are you changing things we can't adjust now? And more importantly, why are you wasting time and resources messing with stuff like this, that no one was complaining about, instead of dedicating those resources to REAL issues?!?!?

If you wanted to add more hair style choices (which I would fully support, btw), then great! But don't change what was already there! Seriously, what is your art department thinking?!?!

twnakita · May 2014

My character's face has changed as well. I have many screenshots from before, and there is no doubt about it. I really wish they'd at least give everyone a one time chance to change their appearance, since I don't think they have any plans of adding a "face sculptor"/barber shop type feature any time soon. It bothers me so much and I don't want to have to reroll.

LordTareq · May 2014

Wow I thought Zenimax changing the colors of my armor (that I had crafted and upgraded spending over 10.000 gold the day before the patch just for that specific color combination) was ridiculous, but this is significantly worse.

They should never, ever mess with the way our characters look. It's just not done in an MMO where some of us invest hours in the character creator to get our character's look just right and have a significant investment in our characters. If they want to change a hairstyle, add the altered hair as a new hairstyle instead but leave the old one as it is.