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Please create arena pvp!!
Cyrodiil is fun but there is such thing as too much of a good thing... Cyrodiil can become boring after weeks of taking resources, taking forts, losing resources, losing forts, taking resources, taking forts...
I'd really love the ability to 1v1, 3v3 or 5v5 in arena pvp. A small objective like take the flag or capture points just like in GW2 but please don't make the same mistake they did and allow us to use our own gear in the arena and not give everyone stock gear.
The rewards for winning arena should be some AP, gold and arena currency that we can use to buy arena based gear which increase flag capture time, does more damage to players in arena and take less damage from players or something like that.
Almost every singple mmo to date has open world pvp and arena pvp, why Zenimax has to be different and break it? It works, people enjoy it and it can become very competitive.
5v5 arena would also teach invaluable team work skills where every man counts. I'd prefer to see actual arena style maps as apossed to small worlds... GW2 hit the nail on the head pretty much with arena pvp, it just sucked that you could not use your own gear.
Zenimax, please please do this for us!
Edited by ImaginaryDimension on May 21, 2014 5:01PM I'd really love the ability to 1v1, 3v3 or 5v5 in arena pvp. A small objective like take the flag or capture points just like in GW2 but please don't make the same mistake they did and allow us to use our own gear in the arena and not give everyone stock gear.
The rewards for winning arena should be some AP, gold and arena currency that we can use to buy arena based gear which increase flag capture time, does more damage to players in arena and take less damage from players or something like that.
Almost every singple mmo to date has open world pvp and arena pvp, why Zenimax has to be different and break it? It works, people enjoy it and it can become very competitive.
5v5 arena would also teach invaluable team work skills where every man counts. I'd prefer to see actual arena style maps as apossed to small worlds... GW2 hit the nail on the head pretty much with arena pvp, it just sucked that you could not use your own gear.
Zenimax, please please do this for us!
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tawok✭✭✭We were basically given the "hell no" when it comes to small scale PVP, especially anything 5v5 and smaller. It's a nightmare to balance, it encourages far too much FoTM play (which is against the core ideology of ESO), and balancing it has unintended consequences on PVE 9 times out of 10. Even Blizzard said that adding arena was one of if not the biggest mistake they've made. They've even begun to discourage you from doing arena, as 2v2s don't award points anymore (correct me if I'm wrong, but last I heard they were phasing out 2s), and rated battlegrounds offer more strategy coupled with more bang for your buck.Leader of Stand by Your Van
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Gisgo✭✭✭✭✭What is the point of opening the 25424523452345454th thread about arena pvp?
You didnt like the other threads?Edited by Gisgo on May 21, 2014 5:17PM2 -
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This is the problem with having an "LOL" button on these forums. It encourages cheap meme posts and trolling in attempt to rack up LOL points.
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rawne1980b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Arena turns games into an absolute mess of "balance" issues.
Constant whining on the forums for nerfs to this spec and nerfs to that class until things break completely.
I'll hunt it down shortly but some of the devs at Blizzard admitted that arena was the worst thing they ever did.
Not because it isn't popular, it is, but because they have had a horrible time trying to balance classes for it. It's made their working lives difficult and they wish they hadn't done it.
It's practically impossible to balance every single class to one on one encounters. One class will always be better at other for certain things.
Then you have the stealth aspect. Everyone can do it so arena fights will turn into 20 minutes of trying to find the other person.
It won't be arena ... it will be hide and seek.
"Turn stealth off in arena"
That will already break some specs ... especially NB's.
Small scale arena is a horrible mess.5 -
Aeradon✭✭✭✭✭What is the point of opening the 25424523452345454th thread about arena pvp?
You didnt like the other threads?
I've seen so many Arena threads just today and I don't know which is which.People keep telling me they're gonna buy me an ale. They never do.
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Ser Lobo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Arena's are completely within Elder Scrolls fiction. In fact, they are such an integral part, that one of the early Elder Scrolls games was named 'Arena'. Combat between gladiators, under the eyes of a betting audience that's hoping for a little bloodshed? Very much Elder Scrolls.
But the caution that is being shown by many is probably very much deserved. I would love a one-on-one and four-on-four PvP option. But it's such a difficult prospect for balance and the like.
Arena's could still see the light of day as a form of 'horde mode', waves of spawns against an individual or group. Player versus NPC. Gambling, leaderboards, achievements, titles. All very possible. With the key word being 'random', from elite single mobs to swarms, don't let the player have much room to plan their build out for predictable fights.
I do want to see one-on-one pvp duels, though. Those mages have all the fun right now.Ruze Aulus. Mayor of Dhalmora. Archer, hunter, assassin. Nightblade.
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He'd rank ESO:TU (in it's current state) a 4.8 out of 5, loving the game almost entirely.
This is an multiplayer game. I should be able to log in, join a dungeon, join a battleground, queue for a dolmen or world boss or delve, teleport in, play for 20 minutes, and not worry about getting kicked, failing to join, having perfect voice coms, or being unable to complete content because someone's lagging behind. Group Finder and matchmaking is broken. Take a note from Destiny and build a system that allows from drop-in/drop-out functionality and quick play.0 -
OK so for the entire period ESO is out the only pvi that will exist is massive scale zerg or hunt for 30 minutes to find 1 player and earn tiny ap? Then I will leave this game...
Does it not occur to anyone that not everyone likes mass zerg pvp where aoe trumps all?
Of course some classes are better than other, but some other classes are better than others at other aspects. It won't be hide and seek because the objective is to capture the flags, if everyone hides then the other team will capture all flags.
Honestly there are already 1000 threads about classes and op'ness ect, let's be honest that won't change anytime soon, there will always be people who think something is OP... hell I still get pissed as hell at sorcs with their blink gtfo skill lol.
The fact is they put so much effort into pve and such little in pvp. Sure Cyrodiil is amazing fun most of the time but being able to group up with 5 of my guildies on ts and go into an arena as a team and dominate would be a refreshing break.
mmo's are always full of bitchy whining people, hell I *** a lot of the time but mostly about possible improvements as apossed to OP classes or skills.
But you cannot just ignore the people who want arena pvp just because fear of kids coming into the forums saying "omg my 5 man random group got stomped by other 5 man group, op nerf blah blah" cmon... what generation are we living in here.
The internet is full of trolls, kids and whining people who suck at mmos and like to pour their hearts out to anyone willing to listen.2 -
Gedalya✭✭✭✭✭When I read "Arena" I thought the Arena segment in Oblivion; that would be a nice touch; an arena here in there throughout Tamriel where players can fight either each other or a touch/elite enemy like the gladiators of old. Maybe with bets/rewards? Anyone?0 -
ZOS_AlexD✭✭✭Hello everyone. Just a friendly reminder when contributing to the discussion, please be constructive. You do not have to agree with everyone else in the thread, but please keep all responses civil and on topic. Thanks!1
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See we can talk about arena.. the dev didn't discourage it. He didn't say that to many post on this..so you guys trying to silence us STOP it..0 -
mutharex✭✭✭✭✭The one thing WoW devs resent adding to the game and would take back if they could? Arenas
http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=130816.2/blizzard-arena-was-the-biggest-mistake-in-the-history-of-wow
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rawne1980b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭ImaginaryDimension wrote: »OK so for the entire period ESO is out the only pvi that will exist is massive scale zerg or hunt for 30 minutes to find 1 player and earn tiny ap? Then I will leave this game...
Does it not occur to anyone that not everyone likes mass zerg pvp where aoe trumps all?
Of course it did.
However....
2 minutes in google tells me that the only pvp in this game is Cyrodiil large scale.
It's been that way since the game entered it's baby beta.
Why would you buy a game that doesn't have what you want just to demand they add things?2 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »Why would you buy a game that doesn't have what you want just to demand they add things?
It's crazy, but some people believe they can make the game better and try to do that very thing.
Some people, I swear....0 -
Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The one thing WoW devs resent adding to the game and would take back if they could? Arenas
http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=130816.2/blizzard-arena-was-the-biggest-mistake-in-the-history-of-wow
nuff said
WoW did wrong. Also, WoW arenas are not TES arenas.0 -
mutharex✭✭✭✭✭Blackwidow wrote: »rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »Why would you buy a game that doesn't have what you want just to demand they add things?
It's crazy, but some people believe they can make the game better and try to do that very thing.
Some people, I swear....
No sorry but if you believe that going to a game that isn't like you want and trying to make it like you want is improving, then you have it the wrong way.
This game isn't 'like this' for a coincidence or case, it's on purpose. And the devs said in the AMA that they have no plans for small scale pvp for now, they are concentrating on Cyrodiil
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Blackwidow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No sorry but if you believe that going to a game that isn't like you want and trying to make it like you want is improving, then you have it the wrong way.
Agree to disagree.This game isn't 'like this' for a coincidence or case, it's on purpose.
Depressing isn't it?And the devs said in the AMA that they have no plans for small scale pvp for now, they are concentrating on Cyrodiil
Don't worry, even ZOS can eventually learn how to make a good game.The future, nobody knows
My point exactly.
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✭Look at Neverwinter, where PvP is basically only small-scale, and the balance nightmare that they created in PvE because of PvP changes.
Balance is a good thing, but small-scale balance tends to even out single-target damage and abilities, while screwing classes over that had nothing BUT single-target efficiency in PvE.0 -
Kewljag_66_ESO✭✭✭✭✭ImaginaryDimension wrote: »Cyrodiil is fun but there is such thing as too much of a good thing... Cyrodiil can become boring after weeks of taking resources, taking forts, losing resources, losing forts, taking resources, taking forts...
I'd really love the ability to 1v1, 3v3 or 5v5 in arena pvp. A small objective like take the flag or capture points just like in GW2 but please don't make the same mistake they did and allow us to use our own gear in the arena and not give everyone stock gear.
The rewards for winning arena should be some AP, gold and arena currency that we can use to buy arena based gear which increase flag capture time, does more damage to players in arena and take less damage from players or something like that.
Almost every singple mmo to date has open world pvp and arena pvp, why Zenimax has to be different and break it? It works, people enjoy it and it can become very competitive.
5v5 arena would also teach invaluable team work skills where every man counts. I'd prefer to see actual arena style maps as apossed to small worlds... GW2 hit the nail on the head pretty much with arena pvp, it just sucked that you could not use your own gear.
Zenimax, please please do this for us!
Why do you need an Arena to have your 1v2, 2v2, and 5v5s ? They already happen everywhere in Cyrodiil. these small skirmishes are endless, you just need to stop following the zerg and go to the outskirts of the zergs and keep sieges. Just go to the areas where enemies have to travel to get to the hot spots. you can ambush all day long and have group vs group fights. many groups roam looking for other groups.
Every type of PVP you want is already there. You just have to go find it because teh game doesnt hold your hand and make matches for you like otehr games do3 -
dietlime✭✭✭✭The idea that all games must be balanced is ruining our culture. It could be thrown in, fun to do, and not taken seriously.
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✭✭Catflinger wrote: »Go play WoW. Go play SWtOR. Stop trying to ruin this game.
Umm.. No?
Unless you can prove arenas or dueling can hurt this game.3
