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Rollback / Relaunch
Mortelus
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So I read the 'Megathread" of gold spammers on the forums, 11 pages already...
I would like to know who would be in favour of a re-launch or a roll back.
I for one wouldn't mind. It would mean everyone that used exploits to get to VR10 or node exploits or the other numerous exploits. Those who brought mats or even gold from the army of bots in game, we would all be back at zero, and Zeni could re-launch the game with far fewer exploits and hopefully bots also.
What is everyone's thoughts?
P.S. Sorry I would have created a poll but for two reasons, A) don't know how, and
we already have enough polls.
Edited by Mortelus on May 20, 2014 12:49AM I would like to know who would be in favour of a re-launch or a roll back.
I for one wouldn't mind. It would mean everyone that used exploits to get to VR10 or node exploits or the other numerous exploits. Those who brought mats or even gold from the army of bots in game, we would all be back at zero, and Zeni could re-launch the game with far fewer exploits and hopefully bots also.
What is everyone's thoughts?
P.S. Sorry I would have created a poll but for two reasons, A) don't know how, and
we already have enough polls. Who has time? But if we never take time how can we ever have time?
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Dita✭✭✭I wouldn't mind it at all, but unfortunately ZOS would screw up second launch even worst, then the first one, its just they nature - incompetence."Begun the Bot Wars has"2 -
Asawasa✭✭✭hmm so lets wipe out everyone's progress to get at a few bots. NO thank you.
what you should be calling for is a global auction house because this guild store system hasn't done anything to stop bots/gold sellers0 -
Mortelus✭✭✭stevenpotter321b14_ESO wrote: »No, god no, wtf you thinking no.
I realise we have all put many hours into the game, but lets face it, this game has face-planted itself into a massive pile of horse ****
The economy must be so completely screwed now, it is lucky we do not have a global AH otherwise I think Zeni would have no other choice than to do a roll back. You be picking up legendary mats for 100g.Who has time? But if we never take time how can we ever have time?1 -
Sonja✭✭✭What the hell??? how can people even suggest something like this?? You want re-roll? Go delete YOUR OWN characters and make new ones but keep your hands AWAY from mine!!! I have spent real life time and effort into leveling up and grinding for mine to VR8, and i will not start over simply because some random internet people think that is ''smart''. Go re-roll your own characters.1 -
Mortelus✭✭✭hmm so lets wipe out everyone's progress to get at a few bots. NO thank you.
what you should be calling for is a global auction house because this guild store system hasn't done anything to stop bots/gold sellers
How would a global AH stop gold sellers? It would give them a means to sell all the mats they get in game thus making even more gold to sell to players.
Also I think if we did have a global AH you would be able to see the true extent to how buggered the games economy has become already.Who has time? But if we never take time how can we ever have time?0 -
Skirmish840✭✭✭It would punish those who honestly got to their level and obtained their items.
I think the whole economy is a mess, an unresolvable one, even if you reset, so many would leave the game that the reset would not have it's desired effect, it would just destroy the game. In short it's too damn late to do the right thing because it will likely only make matters worse, if that's even possible
I vote no, unfortunately![:\](https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
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Mortelus✭✭✭What the hell??? how can people even suggest something like this?? You want re-roll? Go delete YOUR OWN characters and make new ones but keep your hands AWAY from mine!!! I have spent real life time and effort into leveling up and grinding for mine to VR8, and i will not start over simply because some random internet people think that is ''smart''. Go re-roll your own characters.
sorry I made you angry there dude...
Didn't FF (something) do a re-launch?Who has time? But if we never take time how can we ever have time?0 -
I dont care how many rare mats the exploiters/bots have, the truth of the situation is that gear upgrades in this game are pretty crappy to begin with, we are talking at top level going from purple to gold yielding like +3 or 4, big deal. Does a bot have a billion gold? Big deal, there is nothing I want in game as it stands so money is worthless(albeit in short supply due to crazy respec and repair costs).1
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Sonja✭✭✭What the hell??? how can people even suggest something like this?? You want re-roll? Go delete YOUR OWN characters and make new ones but keep your hands AWAY from mine!!! I have spent real life time and effort into leveling up and grinding for mine to VR8, and i will not start over simply because some random internet people think that is ''smart''. Go re-roll your own characters.
sorry I made you angry there dude...
Didn't FF (something) do a re-launch?
Like i said ''dude''. You have option to re-roll your characters for as long as you want but you have no right to make that decision for other people. Yes you made me angry, not you as a person but your question/suggestion.
I have no time nor will to do all the same quests over again. That is the reason i don't have alts. Do Rollback / Relaunch and i will leave the game for good, and i think many others would do the same.1 -
Mortelus✭✭✭I wasn't aware I was making any decisions, I was asking simply for a amicable debate and to hear the opinions of fellow players.
But I can understand how it would annoy many people in game to have everything reset.
I can also understand the frustration people are experiencing in game right now.
Which is why I brought up the topic. I am not looking for people to tell me to go re-roll, after all what would that solve?
Moreover I did not mean 'dude' in a derogatory manner, apologies.Who has time? But if we never take time how can we ever have time?0 -
Mortelus✭✭✭stevenpotter321b14_ESO wrote: »I dont care how many rare mats the exploiters/bots have, the truth of the situation is that gear upgrades in this game are pretty crappy to begin with, we are talking at top level going from purple to gold yielding like +3 or 4, big deal. Does a bot have a billion gold? Big deal, there is nothing I want in game as it stands so money is worthless(albeit in short supply due to crazy respec and repair costs).
This is a valid point, there isn't an awful lot to spend money on anyway. I have no brought a single thing other than bag space and a horse.
I have also not sold a single item except vendor trash.Who has time? But if we never take time how can we ever have time?1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭i agree with you 100% because i saw people who were vet 5 within 2 days during early acces and i know for a fact that was cheating.3 -
Mortelus✭✭✭Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »i agree with you 100% because i saw people who were vet 5 within 2 days during early acces and i know for a fact that was cheating.
We are only a month in, and even a re-launch, in my opinion, is not a huge deal. They could re-launch with a promise of a free (paid-for) expansion they had in the works in the future. Or a few months additional free sub time to alleviate the aggravation for players against it.
I have spent a lot of time farming mat ect... I am low level but that's because I do spend an awful long time just crafting and farming mats.
I would be for a rollback or re-launch because it would be a massive kick in the gut to all exploiters and bot farmers.
Of course it should only be done once they have a solution to the bot problems.Who has time? But if we never take time how can we ever have time?2 -
rawne1980b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭No .... no .... no .... did I mention no?
I've put quite a lot into my characters. Getting PvP ranks up, crafting, money making, gear and map completions....
They take that away from me and i'll be jumping ship like it was on fire and toasting my man parts.
If one thing is sure to cause people to leave ... a rollback is it.2 -
Mortelus✭✭✭rawne1980b16_ESO wrote: »No .... no .... no .... did I mention no?
I've put quite a lot into my characters. Getting PvP ranks up, crafting, money making, gear and map completions....
They take that away from me and i'll be jumping ship like it was on fire and toasting my man parts.
If one thing is sure to cause people to leave ... a rollback is it.
What if they gave you 2 free months play time?Who has time? But if we never take time how can we ever have time?0 -
If they do a rollback, I want a friggin bot to level me back up. Just sayin.
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Mortelus✭✭✭stevenpotter321b14_ESO wrote: »If they do a rollback, I want a friggin bot to level me back up. Just sayin.
Or 2 months free and a bot script?Who has time? But if we never take time how can we ever have time?0 -
Spiritreaver_ESO✭✭✭So I read the 'Megathread" of gold spammers on the forums, 11 pages already...
I would like to know who would be in favour of a re-launch or a roll back.
I for one wouldn't mind. It would mean everyone that used exploits to get to VR10 or node exploits or the other numerous exploits. Those who brought mats or even gold from the army of bots in game, we would all be back at zero, and Zeni could re-launch the game with far fewer exploits and hopefully bots also.
What is everyone's thoughts?
P.S. Sorry I would have created a poll but for two reasons, A) don't know how, and we already have enough polls.
I say no to a relaunch. There is only one game i know of that successfully pulled off a relaunch-FFXIV. And that only worked because of a few interesting points:
1) The initial release was quite literally broken to such an extent that it could honestly hold the title for worst MMO launch in gaming history.
2) The game was so unplayable, Square-Enix was forced to publicly apologize and can the guy who botched initial development of that game.
3) By way of an additional apology as a company, SE pulled the sub fee for over a year until the game could be redesigned into something playable.
As much as people want to go on about this is broke and that is broke, etc etc(and don't get me wrong, ZOS has made a few missteps during this launch); TESO is completely playable. And you can have fun with it, as is, even as ZOS is working to make additions and fix various issues. At this stage of the launch FFXIV was literally a steaming pile.
I'm not blindly saying that everything is 100% OK in 2nd Era Tamriel atm or that ZOS couldn't have done some things better than they have; but i will say that as a whole the launch is actually going pretty smoothly all things considered. A relaunch is completely not needed. ZOS just needs to keep building on what they have done thus far and ignore the unfounded nay-saying, while they keep on taking in constructive criticisms and feedback.1 -
Desdemonte✭✭✭Errrrrrrr. How would a relaunch stop bots? They just pick back up with the rest of us.....0
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Mortelus✭✭✭Errrrrrrrr. Did you read the post?Who has time? But if we never take time how can we ever have time?0