"Pro" Sorc chiming in:

Vamp is fine. The game's balanced really well right now, I don't know why you would want to bring that back. Vamp was nerfed, I mean adjusted, wait...can we call that a rework? Ahem, vamp was reworked before and improved greatly!

I don't know why people keep asking for a vamp buff. Seems pretty usable to me on my Sorc. I can use the spammable for practically free and increase my sustain to unheard of levels before my class mastery I crutch on was added. With my build having an automated cleanse attached, I can hide behind shields and streak and bomb people with 0 counterplay because they will never lock me down. Cleanse first removes CC, then snares, then other lesser effects you know. And if you didn't, now you do!

When that isn't enough, I can bait people into chasing me, streak twice, run into stealth, streak again and finish them off while my shields don't move, any attack they do to put pressure on me is absorbed and healed over + any DoTs cleansed, plus the advantage of being able to enter stealth on demand with a pot and sprint, and being able to hit hard with a spammable that costs virtually nothing and hits hard -- and it'd hit even harder if my HP were low anyway.

I'm two shotting people before they even have any time to break free. And you think vamp needs a slow skill that will just bring back the tank meta? Are you serious? We don't need the tank meta. We don't need ANYTHING that can counter me.

Sorc is already at the bottom of the barrel and you want to add back a skill that was particularly challenging for Sorcs with their low damage and low APM skills to deal with? Are you serious? What will poor "pro" Sorc me do? Give up the sustain I can barely utilize even though my HP, Stam, and Mag never drop unless I'm focused by an organized group?

That sounds insane. That sounds unfair. That sounds like poor balance.

Please understand. Vamp is already really strong! I just don't understand why all these threads keep coming up. Vamp is extremely powerful and doesnt' need a buff. Certainly not a defensive on that would make it harder for poor "pro" Sorcs like me to score kills with zero possibility of actually dying.

No, now way; vamp does not need a buff. In fact, I think the defensive mechanisms on vamp bar running into Stealth are too powerful. Undeath is just too powerful. Way too powerful. I think it needs a nerf.

Definitely not biased because a vampire Necro killed me three days ago in BGs with the other two teams and caused me my first death in 39 games. No, it's not that. Vamp is just really, really powerful on its own and doesn't need a buff.

Signed,

"Pro" Sorc

Yes, the immortal mist build was fun tbh, floating in the zergs. Until you get negated.

Luneca wrote: »

Viridian_Wizard wrote: »

Yes, the immortal mist build was fun tbh, floating in the zergs. Until you get negated.

Pro Sorc responding here:

But negate is so costly, impossible to run on always nerfed, super expensive cast, always lacking bar space, last place in PvP Sorc.

Like, who even has bar space to use negate? You guys are acting like Negate is a one slot solution that every Sorc should and literally does have on their bar if they are a pro.

No. That simply isn't true! And it isn't true that you see Negates everywhere in a big battle. No, no, no, no. There's barely any Sorcs around these days thanks to use being always nerfed and forced into last place when we were given everything we could ever want with the mastery system and were already at the top before then.

Wait, I get it now, you're trying to equate Negate, one of the worst skills in PvP and even below Consuming Darkness, with a skill that got nerfed to show how powerful Negate is. I mean, there's no way something that counters an ability that is broken isn't also broken, right...?

Stop trying to get fun nerfed! Stop trying to get tactical play nerfed! Negate is balanced! And it's incredibly fair, especially the part where it has an effective range larger than it's graphical distance and sometimes doesn't render at all.

Yes, it's very fair. And it costs so much that no Sorc is using it. It needs a cost decrease to maybe, say, 50 and then they can bring Mist Form's old form back. Nevermind what lowering Negate's cost that low would do. This is a reasonable trade-off in exchange! I am sure everyone can see it.

Signed,

"Pro" Sorc

Dudes living in his own world lol.