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End of heist dialogue
queenlarxene
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When the Thieves Den (including a heist board) was added to the Daggerfall Outlaws Refuge, there was also a new dialogue option when you speak to Fa'ren-dar at the end of a heist, allowing you to choose which Thieves Den you return to upon leaving the heist area.
I love that that was thought of, and I can think of plenty of times it would be useful. However, muscle memory from doing many many heists before that was a thing means that I spam the A button (Xbox player) through that dialogue, I've read and heard it way too many times and originally there was no reason not to. Now though, it means I keep ending up in the first Thieves Den in Abah's Watch, because that's the first option, when I'd usually much rather end up where I started the heist, Daggerfall. It would make a lot more sense to me if the "default" option, being the first on the list and what you get if you just press A to continue, was to return to where you started and then the other Thieves Den, whichever it was, was the secondary option. Any chance of such an adjustment?
I love that that was thought of, and I can think of plenty of times it would be useful. However, muscle memory from doing many many heists before that was a thing means that I spam the A button (Xbox player) through that dialogue, I've read and heard it way too many times and originally there was no reason not to. Now though, it means I keep ending up in the first Thieves Den in Abah's Watch, because that's the first option, when I'd usually much rather end up where I started the heist, Daggerfall. It would make a lot more sense to me if the "default" option, being the first on the list and what you get if you just press A to continue, was to return to where you started and then the other Thieves Den, whichever it was, was the secondary option. Any chance of such an adjustment?
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I thought this same exact thing the other day. The original heists were released in 2016. That's 10 years of muscle memory for some of us. Yes, I'll break the habit eventually but this also doesn't really seem like a pain point that needed to happen.3 -
DoofusMax✭✭✭✭✭If you abandon a Heist after starting, you end up back in Abah's Landing regardless of where you started. I've managed to overcome most of the dialogue spamming habit for finishing, but it's still annoying to start a Heist in Daggerfall and end up in Abah's Landing because the coding hasn't fully caught up to the new den yet.I'm fresh out of outrage, but I could muster up some amused annoyance if required.1 -
tomofhyrule✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Counterpoint: if you haven’t unlocked the Daggerfall Heists yet and went in from Abah’s, Daggerfall is still available as a destination, but then you end up in an empty room. You need to then travel manually all the way back to Abah’s to turn it in.
“This would be a good QoL update!” should not be something that screws people over in making your life easier.
Best would be a “let’s go back” option that puts you back where you came from.0 -
DoofusMax✭✭✭✭✭tomofhyrule wrote: »Counterpoint: if you haven’t unlocked the Daggerfall Heists yet and went in from Abah’s, Daggerfall is still available as a destination, but then you end up in an empty room. You need to then travel manually all the way back to Abah’s to turn it in.
Ehhh.... not really. If you have unlocked Heists in Abah's Landing, then they are unlocked in Daggerfall regardless of whether the character has completed "The Codex Caper." Fa'ren-dar is instanced in both locations as soon as "Master of Heists" is completed. It's the Jobs and Reacquisitions boards which require "The Codex Caper" to become available in Daggerfall. Maybe that got changed in Incremental 3 a couple of weeks back, but that was the case prior to that.
I'm fresh out of outrage, but I could muster up some amused annoyance if required.1 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭tomofhyrule wrote: »Counterpoint: if you haven’t unlocked the Daggerfall Heists yet and went in from Abah’s, Daggerfall is still available as a destination, but then you end up in an empty room. You need to then travel manually all the way back to Abah’s to turn it in.
“This would be a good QoL update!” should not be something that screws people over in making your life easier.
Best would be a “let’s go back” option that puts you back where you came from.
Both options are already available to players. The requested change just makes it so that if you rush through the dialogue, then you end in the same place you entered. So, a player that started in Daggerfall would end in Daggerfall. And a player that started in Abah's would end in Abah's.
A player wouldn't be harmed by being teleported to the non-default option they purposely selected regardless of the state of the den. The player would have wanted to be there and went out of their way to choose it.0 -
queenlarxene✭✭tomofhyrule wrote: »“This would be a good QoL update!” should not be something that screws people over in making your life easier.
Best would be a “let’s go back” option that puts you back where you came from.
Yes, that's basically what I asked for. Whichever one you entered the heist from would be that.0