Maintenance for the week of August 10:
• [COMPLETE] NA megaservers for patch maintenance – August 10, 4:00AM EDT (8:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EDT (16:00 UTC)
• [COMPLETE] EU megaservers for patch maintenance – August 10, 8:00 UTC (4:00AM EDT) - 16:00 UTC (12:00PM EDT)
• [COMPLETE] NA megaservers for patch maintenance – August 10, 4:00AM EDT (8:00 UTC) - 12:00PM EDT (16:00 UTC)
• [COMPLETE] EU megaservers for patch maintenance – August 10, 8:00 UTC (4:00AM EDT) - 16:00 UTC (12:00PM EDT)
Why hasn't DK been nerfed yet?
-
CannedChicken✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »CannedChicken wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »Were you wearing armor? /joke
I had 43k spell resist and major protection from monomyth. It didn't even help.
Resists don't matter this patch , esp. when fighting DK. You need to be actively defending or you'll simply lose.
Imagine having to actually use core combat skills
People might take these threads more seriously if you recreated the actual hit, its far from normal. People acting like 41k whips are common is why it falls on deaf ears.
Sorry, but whether this is an outlier or not, the fact that it’s possible at all is a pretty major red flag that DK is overtuned.
Other people in the thread have already pointed out that they’re regularly seeing 25k–27k crits. With the stacking mechanic, you can get a hit like this every four globals. How is it reasonable for a normal, spammable ability to consistently hit harder than any ultimate in the game, while being available every four globals?
And honestly, the fact that you would come into this thread and try to defend this ability just shows your bias. A spammable ability being capable of doing this much damage this frequently is a problem. Spammables shouldn't be capable of doing ultimate levels of damage.5 -
BardokRedSnow wrote: »CannedChicken wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »Were you wearing armor? /joke
I had 43k spell resist and major protection from monomyth. It didn't even help.
Resists don't matter this patch , esp. when fighting DK. You need to be actively defending or you'll simply lose.
Imagine having to actually use core combat skills
People might take these threads more seriously if you recreated the actual hit, its far from normal. People acting like 41k whips are common is why it falls on deaf ears.
You seem to believe that the whip hit here is illegitimate for some reason, could you explain why? This looks credible to me, the dk uses chains (so he has major berserk for sure, maybe farstrider as well) and I could see a hit this high happening given I was hit for over 30k by a whip myself.3 -
BardokRedSnow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »CannedChicken wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »Were you wearing armor? /joke
I had 43k spell resist and major protection from monomyth. It didn't even help.
Resists don't matter this patch , esp. when fighting DK. You need to be actively defending or you'll simply lose.
Imagine having to actually use core combat skills
People might take these threads more seriously if you recreated the actual hit, its far from normal. People acting like 41k whips are common is why it falls on deaf ears.
It doesn't matter how common they are
if its only occurring because of a specific build and has nothing to do with dk or perhaps maybe this user has zero crit resistance etc and doesnt know how to block, in combination with some specific build, I would say thats worth noting before trying to sabotage a class because you want it done
No one I know or heard of has ever been hit for 41k by anything, including whip. I think asking to reproduce this for the discussion is pretty reasonable.Zos then: Vengeance is just a test bro
Zos now: Do you want Vengeance permanent or permanent...2 -
Teeba_Shei✭✭✭✭✭
✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »CannedChicken wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »Were you wearing armor? /joke
I had 43k spell resist and major protection from monomyth. It didn't even help.
Resists don't matter this patch , esp. when fighting DK. You need to be actively defending or you'll simply lose.
Imagine having to actually use core combat skills
People might take these threads more seriously if you recreated the actual hit, its far from normal. People acting like 41k whips are common is why it falls on deaf ears.
“Just block LOL” isn’t an argument, it’s what people say when they don’t understand the point being made. And hiding behind “41k isn’t common” doesn’t magically invalidate extreme hits. You clearly don’t understand the discussion, so maybe stop pretending you’re contributing to it.
9 -
BardokRedSnow wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »CannedChicken wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »Were you wearing armor? /joke
I had 43k spell resist and major protection from monomyth. It didn't even help.
Resists don't matter this patch , esp. when fighting DK. You need to be actively defending or you'll simply lose.
Imagine having to actually use core combat skills
People might take these threads more seriously if you recreated the actual hit, its far from normal. People acting like 41k whips are common is why it falls on deaf ears.
It doesn't matter how common they are
if its only occurring because of a specific build and has nothing to do with dk or perhaps maybe this user has zero crit resistance etc and doesnt know how to block, in combination with some specific build, I would say thats worth noting before trying to sabotage a class because you want it done
No one I know or heard of has ever been hit for 41k by anything, including whip. I think asking to reproduce this for the discussion is pretty reasonable.
"doesnt know how to block" my brother in Christ theres about half a second from when you can first see the chain to when he gets one shot. Did you watch the clip? Would any other ability in the game hit this hard? No, the closest would be nightblade's bow skill but that has a minimum travel time and a lower tooltip than whip reguardless5 -
BardokRedSnow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Teeba_Shei wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »CannedChicken wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »Were you wearing armor? /joke
I had 43k spell resist and major protection from monomyth. It didn't even help.
Resists don't matter this patch , esp. when fighting DK. You need to be actively defending or you'll simply lose.
Imagine having to actually use core combat skills
People might take these threads more seriously if you recreated the actual hit, its far from normal. People acting like 41k whips are common is why it falls on deaf ears.
“Just block LOL” isn’t an argument, it’s what people say when they don’t understand the point being made. And hiding behind “41k isn’t common” doesn’t magically invalidate extreme hits. You clearly don’t understand the discussion, so maybe stop pretending you’re contributing to it.
I understand that ive never been hit by 41k for anything so maybe its user error and not DK.
Regardless of how you feel about my suggestion to block I think its necessary one of you figure out how that 41k whip happened or else its merely an interesting outlier and nothing more.
Zos then: Vengeance is just a test bro
Zos now: Do you want Vengeance permanent or permanent...2 -
BardokRedSnow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭also i run around with a good bit less resistances than that on a dk brawler, still never seen that damage recapZos then: Vengeance is just a test bro
Zos now: Do you want Vengeance permanent or permanent...1 -
MeridiaFavorsMe✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »CannedChicken wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »Were you wearing armor? /joke
I had 43k spell resist and major protection from monomyth. It didn't even help.
Resists don't matter this patch , esp. when fighting DK. You need to be actively defending or you'll simply lose.
Imagine having to actually use core combat skills
People might take these threads more seriously if you recreated the actual hit, its far from normal. People acting like 41k whips are common is why it falls on deaf ears.
How do you defend better? Did you even watch the video? The dude died in like .25 seconds. You can see his magicka and stamina disappear, but still be able to walk around because he got one shot so badly. Get a grip.6 -
NovelliESO✭✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »CannedChicken wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »Were you wearing armor? /joke
I had 43k spell resist and major protection from monomyth. It didn't even help.
Resists don't matter this patch , esp. when fighting DK. You need to be actively defending or you'll simply lose.
Imagine having to actually use core combat skills
People might take these threads more seriously if you recreated the actual hit, its far from normal. People acting like 41k whips are common is why it falls on deaf ears.
It doesn't matter how common they are
if its only occurring because of a specific build and has nothing to do with dk
Do you exist in the same plane of reality? What even is this talking point? DK whip has the highest tooltip of any spammable in the entire game and hits harder than any ULT in the entire game that isn't DoT damage. What are you even talking about? How are you so unaware yet you still feel the need to comment these things?
6 -
BardokRedSnow wrote: »Teeba_Shei wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »CannedChicken wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »Were you wearing armor? /joke
I had 43k spell resist and major protection from monomyth. It didn't even help.
Resists don't matter this patch , esp. when fighting DK. You need to be actively defending or you'll simply lose.
Imagine having to actually use core combat skills
People might take these threads more seriously if you recreated the actual hit, its far from normal. People acting like 41k whips are common is why it falls on deaf ears.
“Just block LOL” isn’t an argument, it’s what people say when they don’t understand the point being made. And hiding behind “41k isn’t common” doesn’t magically invalidate extreme hits. You clearly don’t understand the discussion, so maybe stop pretending you’re contributing to it.
I understand that ive never been hit by 41k for anything so maybe its user error and not DK.
Regardless of how you feel about my suggestion to block I think its necessary one of you figure out how that 41k whip happened or else its merely an interesting outlier and nothing more.
How could this have nothing to do with dk? Whip is the hardest hitting ability in the game full stop4 -
CannedChicken✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »Teeba_Shei wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »CannedChicken wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »Were you wearing armor? /joke
I had 43k spell resist and major protection from monomyth. It didn't even help.
Resists don't matter this patch , esp. when fighting DK. You need to be actively defending or you'll simply lose.
Imagine having to actually use core combat skills
People might take these threads more seriously if you recreated the actual hit, its far from normal. People acting like 41k whips are common is why it falls on deaf ears.
“Just block LOL” isn’t an argument, it’s what people say when they don’t understand the point being made. And hiding behind “41k isn’t common” doesn’t magically invalidate extreme hits. You clearly don’t understand the discussion, so maybe stop pretending you’re contributing to it.
I understand that ive never been hit by 41k for anything so maybe its user error and not DK.
Regardless of how you feel about my suggestion to block I think its necessary one of you figure out how that 41k whip happened or else its merely an interesting outlier and nothing more.
What user error? I have 43k resists and major protection. Please enlighten me Mr god pvper on how I should avoid getting one shot.4 -
Teeba_Shei✭✭✭✭✭
✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »also i run around with a good bit less resistances than that on a dk brawler, still never seen that damage recap
Ahh the classic, "I've never seen it so it's not happening" comment. You can see the video in this thread. You can see it happening.
Edited by Teeba_Shei on August 10, 2026 2:26AM7 -
Luneca✭✭✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »CannedChicken wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »Were you wearing armor? /joke
I had 43k spell resist and major protection from monomyth. It didn't even help.
Resists don't matter this patch , esp. when fighting DK. You need to be actively defending or you'll simply lose.
Imagine having to actually use core combat skills
People might take these threads more seriously if you recreated the actual hit, its far from normal. People acting like 41k whips are common is why it falls on deaf ears.
It could be common, it's just that these kind of builds are kept quiet in an obscure Discord because it will ruin the game. The guy that did that likely isn't going to be using it past trolling because most players that PvP have integrity and when finding something extremely busted or unfair decide not to use it or share it & just send feedback to ZOS instead.
It's how I know that DK will be adjusted soon. It's not a maybe, but a definite because no other spec can come close to doing what it is currently doing with those two skills in the same skill line. Stealth adjustments indirectly target stealth leap and stealth whipping, both of which are insane and zero counter gameplay.
But they don't address the core of the issue. DK never needed whip to get 2x stronger under the rework and outclass any other spammable in the game + overshadow ults. That's really the core issue at hand and why we will keep seeing complaints about the skill.
Even if I use a complete glass build on any other spec in the game, it's difficult to hit harder than 25K on a non-ult skill even in ideal conditions. And the skills that do (Merciless) aren't spammable like whip. But this isn't true for DK, where you can easily hit over 25K whips and this is a skill that can be weaved + cancelled and combined with proc sets at that power.
On the extreme end of damage, DK wins against all other specs by a "landslide". But at the same time gains extreme defensive power with corrosive, class passives and masteries, and self-healing even through whip itself.
It's the same type of attack-defense that ZOS nerfed on other classes in the past, yet somehow stay silent about on DK because rework?
As long as ZOS does not nerf the class then more will just be showcased very soon. This is really just the start by the way. The bounds of power really haven't been fully showcased yet, and if ZOS does not change the class then these builds will appear all over Reddit and elsewhere where they cannot be moderated very soon and make them change it or ruin PvP instead.
Tough that DK will be getting nerfed soon one way or another. But this is what happens when forum users continue to provoke and gaslight, proof has to start being posted that something is OP and ZOS takes a sledgehammer like they just did with WW.
There's also more than one problematic PvE build that can be displayed too if ZOS does not take action.4 -
Oblivion_Protocol✭✭✭✭✭
✭It could be common, it's just that these kind of builds are kept quiet in an obscure Discord because it will ruin the game. The guy that did that likely isn't going to be using it past trolling because most players that PvP have integrity and when finding something extremely busted or unfair decide not to use it or share it & just send feedback to ZOS instead.
It's how I know that DK will be adjusted soon. It's not a maybe, but a definite because no other spec can come close to doing what it is currently doing with those two skills in the same skill line. Stealth adjustments indirectly target stealth leap and stealth whipping, both of which are insane and zero counter gameplay.
Except ZOS wouldn’t nerf DK in that instance. They’d nerf whatever sets or mythic these forbidden Reddit builds are using. As far as they’re concerned, this DK is the plan. Maybe there will be an adjustment or two here and there. But this is the new baseline of power for reworked classes.
Once the reworks are done, everything will be at about this level. For now, enjoy the ride. Or don’t. But all the posts, feedback, complaining, and petitions are falling past the deaf ears and shattering on the ground.1 -
Luneca✭✭✭✭✭Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »It could be common, it's just that these kind of builds are kept quiet in an obscure Discord because it will ruin the game. The guy that did that likely isn't going to be using it past trolling because most players that PvP have integrity and when finding something extremely busted or unfair decide not to use it or share it & just send feedback to ZOS instead.
It's how I know that DK will be adjusted soon. It's not a maybe, but a definite because no other spec can come close to doing what it is currently doing with those two skills in the same skill line. Stealth adjustments indirectly target stealth leap and stealth whipping, both of which are insane and zero counter gameplay.
Except ZOS wouldn’t nerf DK in that instance. They’d nerf whatever sets or mythic these forbidden Reddit builds are using. As far as they’re concerned, this DK is the plan. Maybe there will be an adjustment or two here and there. But this is the new baseline of power for reworked classes.
Once the reworks are done, everything will be at about this level. For now, enjoy the ride. Or don’t. But all the posts, feedback, complaining, and petitions are falling past the deaf ears and shattering on the ground.
Did ZOS leave WW alone? I don't think so. The idea that they won't adjust it is simply not true. Also you've played this game to know that there's more than one way to achieve the same level of power, it's only a question of what you are willing to give up in some cases; others you give nothing up for the same power to be achieved.
WW was one of those cases where you gave nothing up no matter where you made changes to regain power and it resulted in a nerf. DK is exactly the same, which is why I predict a nerf. ZOS won't be nerfing 15 sets and lower the power of everyone else because of DK -- seems ridiculous and an incredibly unlikely reaction versus cutting the damage potential down.0 -
NovelliESO✭✭✭✭Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »It could be common, it's just that these kind of builds are kept quiet in an obscure Discord because it will ruin the game. The guy that did that likely isn't going to be using it past trolling because most players that PvP have integrity and when finding something extremely busted or unfair decide not to use it or share it & just send feedback to ZOS instead.
It's how I know that DK will be adjusted soon. It's not a maybe, but a definite because no other spec can come close to doing what it is currently doing with those two skills in the same skill line. Stealth adjustments indirectly target stealth leap and stealth whipping, both of which are insane and zero counter gameplay.
Except ZOS wouldn’t nerf DK in that instance. They’d nerf whatever sets or mythic these forbidden Reddit builds are using. As far as they’re concerned, this DK is the plan. Maybe there will be an adjustment or two here and there. But this is the new baseline of power for reworked classes.
Once the reworks are done, everything will be at about this level. For now, enjoy the ride. Or don’t. But all the posts, feedback, complaining, and petitions are falling past the deaf ears and shattering on the ground.
I assure you they did not want this level to be the baseline. They are always unaware of the balance until people who play the game well enough tell them about it. They don't even PvP, they wouldn't have any clue how releasing at this point would impact gameplay. Even in the instance in which they want class refresh classes to be strong, which is fine, waiting over a year between a refresh and having DK outperform by such a margin for so long is just not intelligent. It takes legitimately less than 5 minutes for someone to go into the code and tweak the numbers on whip to be less oppressive, and this needs to be done for CoF as well.4 -
Teeba_Shei✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »It could be common, it's just that these kind of builds are kept quiet in an obscure Discord because it will ruin the game. The guy that did that likely isn't going to be using it past trolling because most players that PvP have integrity and when finding something extremely busted or unfair decide not to use it or share it & just send feedback to ZOS instead.
It's how I know that DK will be adjusted soon. It's not a maybe, but a definite because no other spec can come close to doing what it is currently doing with those two skills in the same skill line. Stealth adjustments indirectly target stealth leap and stealth whipping, both of which are insane and zero counter gameplay.
Except ZOS wouldn’t nerf DK in that instance. They’d nerf whatever sets or mythic these forbidden Reddit builds are using. As far as they’re concerned, this DK is the plan. Maybe there will be an adjustment or two here and there. But this is the new baseline of power for reworked classes.
Once the reworks are done, everything will be at about this level. For now, enjoy the ride. Or don’t. But all the posts, feedback, complaining, and petitions are falling past the deaf ears and shattering on the ground.
Problem is even without a strong build this skill still does ultimate levels of damage as a spammable. There is no reason to nerf a ton of sets when its just one skill that is the issue.2 -
BardokRedSnow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Teeba_Shei wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »also i run around with a good bit less resistances than that on a dk brawler, still never seen that damage recap
Ahh the classic, "I've never seen it so it's not happening" comment. You can see the video in this thread. You can see it happening.
aight, do it again then
All this lip service by now someone could have reproduced this result, give the build makeup and prove once and for all dk is in need of an immediate nerf.
Instead this is turning into one of many anti dk support group threads.Edited by BardokRedSnow on August 10, 2026 4:41AMZos then: Vengeance is just a test bro
Zos now: Do you want Vengeance permanent or permanent...1 -
NovelliESO✭✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »Teeba_Shei wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »also i run around with a good bit less resistances than that on a dk brawler, still never seen that damage recap
Ahh the classic, "I've never seen it so it's not happening" comment. You can see the video in this thread. You can see it happening.
aight, do it again then
What is your next goal post shift if someone does it again?Edited by NovelliESO on August 10, 2026 4:41AM3 -
Goregram1✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »CannedChicken wrote: »Four_Fingers wrote: »Were you wearing armor? /joke
I had 43k spell resist and major protection from monomyth. It didn't even help.
Resists don't matter this patch , esp. when fighting DK. You need to be actively defending or you'll simply lose.
Imagine having to actually use core combat skills
People might take these threads more seriously if you recreated the actual hit, its far from normal. People acting like 41k whips are common is why it falls on deaf ears.
if the severs didn't lag maybe ppl could use said skills0 -
BardokRedSnow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Teeba_Shei wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »also i run around with a good bit less resistances than that on a dk brawler, still never seen that damage recap
Ahh the classic, "I've never seen it so it's not happening" comment. You can see the video in this thread. You can see it happening.
aight, do it again then
What is your next goal post shift if someone does it again?
We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
Replication is a core aspect of the scientific method, you're acting like I'm a troll for requesting someone demonstrate this result before stating dk needs to be nerfed when its pretty basic.Edited by BardokRedSnow on August 10, 2026 4:52AMZos then: Vengeance is just a test bro
Zos now: Do you want Vengeance permanent or permanent...2 -
NovelliESO✭✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Teeba_Shei wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »also i run around with a good bit less resistances than that on a dk brawler, still never seen that damage recap
Ahh the classic, "I've never seen it so it's not happening" comment. You can see the video in this thread. You can see it happening.
aight, do it again then
What is your next goal post shift if someone does it again?
We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
Replication is a core aspect of the scientific method, you're acting like I'm a troll for requesting someone demonstrate this result before stating dk needs to be nerfed when its pretty basic.
Bro is talking about scientific method when his prior responses were "I know I'm right" and "You win I'm not reading all that." Good joke. You exist just to attempt to derail the threads that are about nerfing DK because you rely on it.Edited by NovelliESO on August 10, 2026 4:54AM5 -
BardokRedSnow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Rely on what, zos isnt nerfing DK below subclass level, those patchnotes make that pretty clear. The only possible way they would is if someone shows that the result in that video is a common and repeatable thing, which for all I know it might be. Repeatable that is, its certainly not common or even uncommon. But apparently asking to show that is too much.
*Shrug* If anything I'm helping yall.Edited by BardokRedSnow on August 10, 2026 4:58AMZos then: Vengeance is just a test bro
Zos now: Do you want Vengeance permanent or permanent...1 -
NovelliESO✭✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »Rely on what, zos isnt nerfing DK below subclass level, those patchnotes make that pretty clear. The only possible way they would is if someone shows that the result in that video is a common and repeatable thing, which for all I know it might be. Repeatable that is, its certainly not common or even uncommon. But apparently asking to show that is too much.
*Shrug* If anything I'm helping yall.
I would post a video of a 50k whip if it got you to stop posting on these threads because all you do is obfuscate and goal post shift. But I know for a fact when I post it you'll just make more and more excuses and or just not even respond to it and then come back to respond to something else because you lack the ability to critically engage with anything anyone on these threads has said to you.4 -
BardokRedSnow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Rely on what, zos isnt nerfing DK below subclass level, those patchnotes make that pretty clear. The only possible way they would is if someone shows that the result in that video is a common and repeatable thing, which for all I know it might be. Repeatable that is, its certainly not common or even uncommon. But apparently asking to show that is too much.
*Shrug* If anything I'm helping yall.
I would post a video of a 50k whip if it got you to stop posting on these threads because all you do is obfuscate and goal post shift. But I know for a fact when I post it you'll just make more and more excuses and or just not even respond to it and then come back to respond to something else because you lack the ability to critically engage with anything anyone on these threads has said to you.
Then just do it and stop making excuses, if all you want me to do is stop posting because no one can reproduce this result then I will stop. I rest my case in fact until someone does, have a good one.Zos then: Vengeance is just a test bro
Zos now: Do you want Vengeance permanent or permanent...1 -
NovelliESO✭✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Rely on what, zos isnt nerfing DK below subclass level, those patchnotes make that pretty clear. The only possible way they would is if someone shows that the result in that video is a common and repeatable thing, which for all I know it might be. Repeatable that is, its certainly not common or even uncommon. But apparently asking to show that is too much.
*Shrug* If anything I'm helping yall.
I would post a video of a 50k whip if it got you to stop posting on these threads because all you do is obfuscate and goal post shift. But I know for a fact when I post it you'll just make more and more excuses and or just not even respond to it and then come back to respond to something else because you lack the ability to critically engage with anything anyone on these threads has said to you.
Then just do it and stop making excuses, if all you want me to do is stop posting because no one can reproduce this result then I will stop. I rest my case in fact until someone does, have a good one.
You literally said the last time that 40k whips didn't exist and someone posted a 41k one, now you think it's impossible to replicate. I will post you a 25k bitrate video of a 50k whip tomorrow.4 -
BardokRedSnow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Rely on what, zos isnt nerfing DK below subclass level, those patchnotes make that pretty clear. The only possible way they would is if someone shows that the result in that video is a common and repeatable thing, which for all I know it might be. Repeatable that is, its certainly not common or even uncommon. But apparently asking to show that is too much.
*Shrug* If anything I'm helping yall.
I would post a video of a 50k whip if it got you to stop posting on these threads because all you do is obfuscate and goal post shift. But I know for a fact when I post it you'll just make more and more excuses and or just not even respond to it and then come back to respond to something else because you lack the ability to critically engage with anything anyone on these threads has said to you.
Then just do it and stop making excuses, if all you want me to do is stop posting because no one can reproduce this result then I will stop. I rest my case in fact until someone does, have a good one.
You literally said the last time that 40k whips didn't exist and someone posted a 41k one, now you think it's impossible to replicate. I will post you a 25k bitrate video of a 50k whip tomorrow.
on a player not a target dummy, in pve thats easy. And show the players build
see you thenEdited by BardokRedSnow on August 10, 2026 5:15AMZos then: Vengeance is just a test bro
Zos now: Do you want Vengeance permanent or permanent...1 -
NovelliESO✭✭✭✭BardokRedSnow wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Rely on what, zos isnt nerfing DK below subclass level, those patchnotes make that pretty clear. The only possible way they would is if someone shows that the result in that video is a common and repeatable thing, which for all I know it might be. Repeatable that is, its certainly not common or even uncommon. But apparently asking to show that is too much.
*Shrug* If anything I'm helping yall.
I would post a video of a 50k whip if it got you to stop posting on these threads because all you do is obfuscate and goal post shift. But I know for a fact when I post it you'll just make more and more excuses and or just not even respond to it and then come back to respond to something else because you lack the ability to critically engage with anything anyone on these threads has said to you.
Then just do it and stop making excuses, if all you want me to do is stop posting because no one can reproduce this result then I will stop. I rest my case in fact until someone does, have a good one.
You literally said the last time that 40k whips didn't exist and someone posted a 41k one, now you think it's impossible to replicate. I will post you a 25k bitrate video of a 50k whip tomorrow.
on a player not a target dummy, in pve thats easy. And show the players build
see you then
Can't wait to see you obfuscate when it happens!4 -
BardokRedSnow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Rely on what, zos isnt nerfing DK below subclass level, those patchnotes make that pretty clear. The only possible way they would is if someone shows that the result in that video is a common and repeatable thing, which for all I know it might be. Repeatable that is, its certainly not common or even uncommon. But apparently asking to show that is too much.
*Shrug* If anything I'm helping yall.
I would post a video of a 50k whip if it got you to stop posting on these threads because all you do is obfuscate and goal post shift. But I know for a fact when I post it you'll just make more and more excuses and or just not even respond to it and then come back to respond to something else because you lack the ability to critically engage with anything anyone on these threads has said to you.
Then just do it and stop making excuses, if all you want me to do is stop posting because no one can reproduce this result then I will stop. I rest my case in fact until someone does, have a good one.
You literally said the last time that 40k whips didn't exist and someone posted a 41k one, now you think it's impossible to replicate. I will post you a 25k bitrate video of a 50k whip tomorrow.
on a player not a target dummy, in pve thats easy. And show the players build
see you then
Can't wait to see you obfuscate when it happens!
past armor caps no corrosive btw, dont forget, just like in that video.
edit:
actually looking at the video again they did have corrosive up, just wasnt shown in the death log. So you can corrosive. 41k. 50k like you stated, whatever, lets see it.Edited by BardokRedSnow on August 10, 2026 5:32AMZos then: Vengeance is just a test bro
Zos now: Do you want Vengeance permanent or permanent...1 -
BardokRedSnow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭For people that claimed 40k whip was possible WITHOUT corrosive tho thats still cap, which this video shows.Zos then: Vengeance is just a test bro
Zos now: Do you want Vengeance permanent or permanent...1