No. The other classes will be reworked and get even stronger.

Urzigurumash wrote: »

UntouchableHunter wrote: »

No. The other classes will be reworked and get even stronger.

Oh so THOSE are getting their own notes. Tomorrow probably?

Tomorrow? Lunch maybe.

laughs in dk

But if they nerf DK, what happens when you finally get your turn in the year 2100?

FelisCatus wrote: »

Finally DK in a good place for the first time in years and it's gonna get nerfed? We need CLASS CHANGE TOKEN NOW.

Now this is a joke better than mine

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

We can nerf DK, but not without DK getting ult gen in corrosive again, and 3 percent damage mitigation instead of 6 also. Then you can have your little nerfs.

I actually agree with the Ult Gen being restored, absolutely. I'll generally take an old-fashioned approach to the class since I mained D Swing DK from 2015 to 2021.

Since I don't play it now I really don't know what's best. I defer to the other threads here, there has been broad agreement for months as to the most severe issues.

But something must be done.

The game should be fun.

Igneous Shield will get a cost increase or so, that should just about cover it.

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

Urzigurumash wrote: »

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

We can nerf DK, but not without DK getting ult gen in corrosive again, and 3 percent damage mitigation instead of 6 also. Then you can have your little nerfs.

I actually agree with the Ult Gen being restored, absolutely. I'll generally take an old-fashioned approach to the class since I mained D Swing DK from 2015 to 2021.

Since I don't play it now I really don't know what's best. I defer to the other threads here, there has been broad agreement for months as to the most severe issues.

But something must be done.

The game should be fun.

Oh sweet lol im surprised more people agree with this than i thought, yea I do miss the old dk some, except they need to fix the two handed weapon skills. They look cool but they're crazy clunky.

But yea i dont care if they nerf dk some, ima be dk regardless. Within reason though lol still gotta be on subclass level at least. Molten whips in a good place, and power lash was overtuned for a while so halving the healing seems fair to me.

I don't see 2h DK making a comeback, part of why it worked was we had AoE Breach in Noxious Breath and Corrosive, which didn't work with Whip prior to 2021, and Sub Assault in 2018 was the only other PvP viable AoE Breach. Nor does it need to, I'm happily D Swinging away on other classes these days.

But yeah if the class kit were properly functional without incongruent anomalies like Corrosive disabling Ult Gen

(without providing the tankiness Vamp Ult or Goliath provide and without benefitting from Transformation buffs like Shapeshifter's Chain (if it were a viable Mythic))

then the class wouldn't need egregiously OP outliers like Inhale. Especially relevant since Corrosive disabling Ult Gen is a nerf to the DK method of sustain that WAS balanced for a decade.

Please don't nerf DKs. I'd actually buff them further so we can get more of them in Cyrodiil, BGs, and tournaments. I can only assume people are avoiding them because it must feel awful knowing the class is doing half the work for you.

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

Urzigurumash wrote: »

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

We can nerf DK, but not without DK getting ult gen in corrosive again, and 3 percent damage mitigation instead of 6 also. Then you can have your little nerfs.

I actually agree with the Ult Gen being restored, absolutely. I'll generally take an old-fashioned approach to the class since I mained D Swing DK from 2015 to 2021.

Since I don't play it now I really don't know what's best. I defer to the other threads here, there has been broad agreement for months as to the most severe issues.

But something must be done.

The game should be fun.

Oh sweet lol im surprised more people agree with this than i thought, yea I do miss the old dk some, except they need to fix the two handed weapon skills. They look cool but they're crazy clunky.

But yea i dont care if they nerf dk some, ima be dk regardless. Within reason though lol still gotta be on subclass level at least. Molten whips in a good place, and power lash was overtuned for a while so halving the healing seems fair to me.

Don't worry, they will be complaining about it again once the sustain nerf and restoration of ult gen in Corrosive happens.

idk man against some sorcs, i get melted no problem. maybe a l2p issue on my part but even still when i run into dk's on my non dk i just cc and streak/sprint away from them when they use corrosive. sucks to say, but to prevent the cycle of nerfs and turning a class into a bum after high performance, we gotta keep dk where its at and bring the other classes in line. otherwise dk is going to turn to a garbage bumpkin just like 2013 after dk nerfs to ult gen and batswarm. though i heard that was too strong so had to get nerfed (i was only around after it got nerfed), but after getting nerfed mdk was ass to say the least unless you made a stamdk

Nerf, nerf, everybody gets a nerf!

Weesacs wrote: »

Please don't nerf DKs. I'd actually buff them further so we can get more of them in Cyrodiil, BGs, and tournaments. I can only assume people are avoiding them because it must feel awful knowing the class is doing half the work for you.

It hasnt stopped sorcs and nightblades for over a decade.

That dart didn’t stick in the wall tho

Melivar wrote: »

The PVP crowd will always want someone to be nerfed, it's just the DK's turn again currently. Since they can never be happy anyways as it's always something else, perhaps Zos just decided to not be bothered any longer who knows for sure.

Maybe rather ask yourself why PvP veterans are always moaning. Is it that they don't have better things to do, or is it because combat is consistently being kept unfair to drive engagement for the FotM crowds?