I love the veteran areas. There are no bots.. at least not in the final (as of now) one. Do you know how risky it would be for botters and those in league with them to spend the time progressing all the way there then to be banned lol. It's a great incentive. Not to mention, it's fun. I really enjoy the quests in this game, I'm happy that I don't "have" to make another character to experience the game, but can if I want.

smokes wrote: »

Zubba wrote: »

@smokes‌

Levelling skills is actually very fast if you farm npc. At level 50 you can level up any skill very fast by going to for example coldharbour. rank 1-10 should take something like 5-10 minutes.

of course rank 1-10 goes fast, they're the easy ranks

it's ranks 10-50 that concern me, the biggest problem being, is that it's incredibly inneffective to use an unskilled weapon to level with in vet ranks.

so i'd have to grind mobs, for literally hours - with no xp and very little usuable loot - in order to be able use a weapon effectively.

then you've got to consider that whilst levelling to VR3, i still only have my main weapon skill at 50 - even my secondary weapon, which is a bow, is still not capped.

then to consider that i actually want to level up destruction staff and restoration staff so i can go and respec/re-gear into a light armor caster, rather than a medium armor 2h melee. i might as well delete the character and start again. as i would need to do the whole of VR1-10 using those weapons, which i shudder at the thought of as i would be dead more often than i could afford. it'd be less painful to level to 50 again.

VR levelling is horribly grindy and needs some serious adjustment in terms of skill-line support. it took me from VR1-3 to level vampirism to level 10. at which point i stopped questing. thats 3 full zones of quests - sub VR level, you could likely get vampirism to 10 within 1 zone.

trying to level skills in pvp at VR ranks just gets you killed - even using support skills and in big groups, it's just laughable.

as much as i love elder scrolls, there's some glaring issues with veteran content that need addressing.

This isn't entirely true. The right weapon set is easy to use at vet lvls even without it lvled to 50. I was lvl 50 dual wield, respeced into sword/board that was only lvl 31 and it works better.

Zakua wrote: »

Yes, lol I did the same thing over the weekend. I wont lie I skipped a lot of 1-50 quests. I liked to mix it up with mob grinds and quests, many times I'd simply wash my hands of a region if I found my self a level under the next regions mobs, so I'd move on.

Once I hit Vet1 I quickly found out you had to do all the quests and Mob grinding is not a valid leveling approach with only 42xp rewards for the kills.

So last friday I found myself halfway done with VR4 and no quests/dungeons/dolmens/WB left to run in the desert or its previous regions. I checked my journal and saw some quests in Stonefalls so away I went haha.

I ended up spending the entire weekend running all around ebonheart picking up quests. It was fun as hell, I did get some odd /say comments a few times....

I think I'm going to do this as well. I had to do the first 1/4 of the VR5 zone to hit VR5, so I'm a little behind the curve on VR leveling. I think I'll head back to the 1-50 zones and run all the quests I skipped to get back on track.

While the VR leveling is a little grindy, I do find myself getting immersed in the story for each zone and before you know it, it's done. I just wish the XP gained was a little more, as right now doing 100% of the quests for a zone, plus running around doing dolmens, world bosses and dungeons multiple times over still isn't enough to level you up per zone (not to mention doing the dolmens, bosses and delves is horrible on the bank account since repairs are so much higher when grouped up + no quest reward gold).

Also of note: When doing the 1-50 quests for EP, I was always fighting "covenant soldiers" and "dominion soldiers," even on the starter island. And many of the quests had to do with the alliances. I was worried that when I moved on to VR areas I would constantly fighting my own faction... but there hasn't been 1 quest in the DC area that has had me kill "pact soldiers." This is a relief and has contributed to me getting immersed in the questlines. I find it a little strange that the different factions are written so differently. It must suck for other factions doing vet leveling in EP zones and having to kill their own faction over and over! I wonder what AD will be like...

"vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

I'm really hoping some of this changes. I get the feeling some of this was to stall the leveling until crag whatever hits. But if it never changes it is going to be a real stumbling block for me and my alts.

Possibly very true, Its strange that once Craglorn is released they are upping the xp for certain things. Almost like they don't mind you levelling faster once 1.1 is released !