Preventing people from leaving a zone without using an in-game door, which you can't use while in combat, prevents people from leaving a zone without leaving combat, in a PvP area where people famously keep people in combat at an unkillable distance? Who could have seen this coming. (Literally anyone who has ever played the game. Ever.)

You can thank all the gankers complaining about people not opting to give half the farmed Tel Var stones by dying to them. This sort of limitation was never a good idea. Imagine being unable to port out of sticky situation from Cyro by queuing out of it because some people didn't like people doing so and wanted similar 'if you have 100 AP, you cannot queue out' limitations. Yikes.

I honestly disagree with OP. I know it can be frustrating to face gankers, especially when tel var is on the line, but IC is a PvP zone and it is not okay that people can just randomly teleport away from tricky situations without sacrificing resources. Just imagine you are killing a boss and it despawns before you can finish it If you at least burn an unstoppable potion and a keep recall (which is still an option as @imPDA ) then it is okayish, but having a free "ezbb" button is lame.

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

You can thank all the gankers complaining about people not opting to give half the farmed Tel Var stones by dying to them. This sort of limitation was never a good idea. Imagine being unable to port out of sticky situation from Cyro by queuing out of it because some people didn't like people doing so and wanted similar 'if you have 100 AP, you cannot queue out' limitations. Yikes.

Kill in Cyro does not give you half of AP opponent carried, otherwise by killing me, people would become AP millionaires after one kill Additionally, during prime time, if you leave Cyro, you will see 80+ queue, so it is not as common as it was in IC. I am also agreeing with people saying limit should be higher and tp stones cheaper, current limit it too low you can collect this amount simply killing a couple of mobs during quests. Higer limit would allow questers to quit faster and still would not allow other players escape for free.

You can get out of this by using a sigil of Imperial Retreat. Problem solved.

If you played for 10 years, you should know that it is how IT was designed supposed to be played. The ability to bail of the fight by queuing is just exploiting of convenience feature. If you're in IC without a fat Tel Var stack on you, then accept death and move on with your stuff, you have nothing to lose anyway. If you're in IC to farm Tel Vars, then fight for them and be ready to be ganked, it's a PvP zone, you can't expect to have safety and reward at the same time.

imPDA wrote: »

If you played early IC, then you should know it is the same now as it was before. Teleport via Cyrodiil is a "feature" which was finally fixed. With ability to teleport in combat, simply anybody can escape any unwanted situation and save telvars, it became a coward's meta, even in YT videos players told to install an addon to teleport from fights. Is it a fair fight?

About your situation: with tp stone you can leave even in combat. With unstoppable potion it is impossible to interrupt it, and if they troll played fat no damage build in noCP - they most likely could not kill you while you are porting out with tp stone. EZ.

Fix was introduced to stop griefing literally everybody abused, it must not be reverted because of one troll appeared once and because you have not learned how to play in 5 years.

Totally disagree with your assessment, but I've also seen you comment on all of these in favor of the changes...no surprise.
It's not just "one person", it's a bunch of people doing the same thing. As many threads as you've commented on, you should know that by now, but you choose to ignore that.
The reality is there were suggestions before the change, which was to allow people to port out when not in active combat.
It seems that there are people doing things that were not what the devs wanted to happen, but people are taking advantage of these exploits, and YES it's an exploit. It's like the Warden Charm exploit people were using, and the other exploits being used and weren't fixed.
Ele sus shouldn't keep someone in combat. People doing this exploit shouldn't be allowed to do it as this was NEVER what the devs intended to happen. See how that works? The devs never intended for people to exploit things just to harass people in IC.
IC will be dead soon because of horrible decisions made by the devs because of whiney PvPers that like to exploit abilities and sets and harass others.
This is an exploit that the devs never INTENDED on happening, it's like using sneak pots to camp ladders and quests, the devs NEVER INTENDED for people to do that, but it happens, and people like you will make the argument that it is intended because it allows you to exploit things that were NEVER INTENDED to be used like it's being used.

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

You can get out of this by using a sigil of Imperial Retreat. Problem solved.

I was going to say the same thing and they were introduced quite early in IC release because of this exact issue.

INM wrote: »

If you played for 10 years, you should know that it is how IT was designed supposed to be played. The ability to bail of the fight by queuing is just exploiting of convenience feature. If you're in IC without a fat Tel Var stack on you, then accept death and move on with your stuff, you have nothing to lose anyway. If you're in IC to farm Tel Vars, then fight for them and be ready to be ganked, it's a PvP zone, you can't expect to have safety and reward at the same time.

IC was also intended to be a subzone for Cyrodiil and was one of the few places that you could farm high level crafting mats. With only Wrothgar being the other source. You also had to run to and find the entrances in Cyrodiil and hope they weren't being camped. Also, originally tel var only dropped like 10% if you died from monsters or fall damage that also was intended.

So... sometimes intentions change.

IC has been dead since it got its own campaign.

So keeping things as they are probably wont hurt it. But it wont help either.

Usureki wrote: »

I honestly disagree with OP. I know it can be frustrating to face gankers, especially when tel var is on the line, but IC is a PvP zone and it is not okay that people can just randomly teleport away from tricky situations without sacrificing resources. Just imagine you are killing a boss and it despawns before you can finish it If you at least burn an unstoppable potion and a keep recall (which is still an option as @imPDA ) then it is okayish, but having a free "ezbb" button is lame.

Uh can't they "effectively teleport" by just using an invist pot and ALT+ F4, then logging in later anyway if the goal was to disappear? Argument defeated.

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

BioBitter100 wrote: »

INM wrote: »

If you played for 10 years, you should know that it is how IT was designed supposed to be played. The ability to bail of the fight by queuing is just exploiting of convenience feature. If you're in IC without a fat Tel Var stack on you, then accept death and move on with your stuff, you have nothing to lose anyway. If you're in IC to farm Tel Vars, then fight for them and be ready to be ganked, it's a PvP zone, you can't expect to have safety and reward at the same time.

Ah absolute bull crap. I have builds that can literally not be killed in IC, block tanks that don´t die unless 20 people with negates and sieges beat on you. Now I could just put ele sus and some speed on, go out there and find some solo or duo players and grief them to let me kill them to get their Tel Var, while they have no counter whatsoever.
Does that sound fun to you? Is that your definition of good PvP? Where does it lead if people just "accept" death in that situation. It even encourages this rotten behaviour.

sshogrin wrote: »

IC will be dead soon because of horrible decisions made by the devs because of whiney PvPers that like to exploit abilities and sets and harass others.
This is an exploit that the devs never INTENDED on happening, it's like using sneak pots to camp ladders and quests, the devs NEVER INTENDED for people to do that, but it happens, and people like you will make the argument that it is intended because it allows you to exploit things that were NEVER INTENDED to be used like it's being used.

Exactly this, I´m simply not going there anymore, unless I have a stacked group. Why would I? It´s even worse now then it was in the past.

Yeah, after it stopped being new content for the majority of playerbase, IC pretty much died and the change didn't really help much either. Why would it? Who does it help to begin with?

It's for the griefers. I was exercising on my bike and a guy literally fought me for 2 hours just to try and kill me. I was riding my bike and laughing the whole time. When he finally killed me he got 100 Tel Var. He messaged "seriously? " and spammed profanity because I "wasted his time".

He wasted his own time. I was going to roll on that bike for 2 hours regardless, and playing the game is a distraction from the pain generated doing it. But I do have to admit, it was a little more entertaining than firing siege. Especially his irate response.

ZOS loves making changes that increase toxicity. For what reason? We'll never know.

Luneca wrote: »

IZZEFlameLash wrote: »

BioBitter100 wrote: »

INM wrote: »

If you played for 10 years, you should know that it is how IT was designed supposed to be played. The ability to bail of the fight by queuing is just exploiting of convenience feature. If you're in IC without a fat Tel Var stack on you, then accept death and move on with your stuff, you have nothing to lose anyway. If you're in IC to farm Tel Vars, then fight for them and be ready to be ganked, it's a PvP zone, you can't expect to have safety and reward at the same time.

Ah absolute bull crap. I have builds that can literally not be killed in IC, block tanks that don´t die unless 20 people with negates and sieges beat on you. Now I could just put ele sus and some speed on, go out there and find some solo or duo players and grief them to let me kill them to get their Tel Var, while they have no counter whatsoever.
Does that sound fun to you? Is that your definition of good PvP? Where does it lead if people just "accept" death in that situation. It even encourages this rotten behaviour.

sshogrin wrote: »

IC will be dead soon because of horrible decisions made by the devs because of whiney PvPers that like to exploit abilities and sets and harass others.
This is an exploit that the devs never INTENDED on happening, it's like using sneak pots to camp ladders and quests, the devs NEVER INTENDED for people to do that, but it happens, and people like you will make the argument that it is intended because it allows you to exploit things that were NEVER INTENDED to be used like it's being used.

Exactly this, I´m simply not going there anymore, unless I have a stacked group. Why would I? It´s even worse now then it was in the past.

Yeah, after it stopped being new content for the majority of playerbase, IC pretty much died and the change didn't really help much either. Why would it? Who does it help to begin with?

It's for the griefers. I was exercising on my bike and a guy literally fought me for 2 hours just to try and kill me. I was riding my bike and laughing the whole time. When he finally killed me he got 100 Tel Var. He messaged "seriously? " and spammed profanity because I "wasted his time".

He wasted his own time. I was going to roll on that bike for 2 hours regardless, and playing the game is a distraction from the pain generated doing it. But I do have to admit, it was a little more entertaining than firing siege. Especially his irate response.

ZOS loves making changes that increase toxicity. For what reason? We'll never know.

Imagine calling people who do PvP in a PvP zone griefers.

Cool story tho, made my day

I like it, it’s how it’s supposed to be. Now the sewers are actually used to get into the base. And sometimes checked or camped. I like it.

The new porting system is the best thing to ever happen to Imperial City! The old system (or lack thereof) was nothing short of an exploit and pure abuse. Anyone wanting to bring it back is just an abuser and an exploiter!

You know what? I want all the achievements from vOC, vLC, and other HM content, so maybe ZOS should implement a "system" for me and folks like me to get them without spending months wiping in a progression group? Of course I'm joking.

Stop lying to the entire forum community! You aren't looking for "convenience"; you just want a risk-free way to deposit your Tel Var Stones. Here's a shocker: the player attacking you is a human being too (WOW!!), and nobody likes it when farmers or pvpers just vanish mid-fight into another campaign to save their Tel Var or to avoid death.

I do believe you can use spell crafting to make a cleansing spell to remove elemental susceptibility.

I haven't tried it yet. You also can't repair keeps with it on you either.