Gem of Agility

TheBigOBob · July 13

I have completed 57, yes 57 of them some of which i have waited a full 30 minutes to participate, of the Dynamic Encounters. Either the drop rate is insanely low for the Gem of Agility or there is a bug. I have completed the new Thieves' Guild Quests on the character that I have been trying to get the gem. The page for the home dropped almost immediately, but this feels not right.

fizl101 · July 13

I havent got either. I havent counted but at a guess done 40 or so. Did get one planar key on my last de though

TheBigOBob · July 13

fizl101 wrote: »

I havent got either. I havent counted but at a guess done 40 or so. Did get one planar key on my last de though

I got one of those on the first day, haven't seen one drop since.

valenwood_vegan · July 13

Yup, none of the new stuff drops for some of us. Already lost interest. I imagine in a month or two they're going to notice they did something wrong with the RNG (like they eventually realized with the items we had to collect to complete the writhing wall event dailies).

Please move away from the broken rng rewards and reward us for completing specific tasks and achievements and challenges (for example, the Gem of Agility could have been tied to the achievement for completing 30 dynamic encounters with maybe a RNG chance to obtain it sooner if we're absolutely wedded to RNG things).

FluffyDoom · July 13

RNG seriously needs to be reviewed, it's super annoying when all of your friends and most of your guildies receive their drops or leads within the first few tries or days and here I am, almost a week later still missing gem of agility from dynamic encounters and mysterious nocturnal note from heists.

Who thought this was "fun"? Spoiler alert - it's not fun, it's a huge waste of my playtime chasing items that just won't drop.

Logging out for the day.

Avran_Sylt · July 13

Yeah I'm basically dropping the game until I hear about these things actually working, then I'll probably come back, if I haven't got interested in other things.

TheBigOBob · July 13

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

Yeah I'm basically dropping the game until I hear about these things actually working, then I'll probably come back, if I haven't got interested in other things.

Im just gonna go do other stuff which is sad because I really wanted to enjoy the new content.

alenae1b14_ESO · July 14

33 Dynamic Encounters for me. Thieves Guild quest line completed.

I've rec'd 3 shards, 2 Style pages (both the same, belts), couple of leads, Werewolf form black.

Zero Keys, zero Agility gem.

IncultaWolf · July 14

It took me about 50 dynamic encounters for me to get the gem. It's not bugged, just has a very low drop rate.

valenwood_vegan · July 14

IncultaWolf wrote: »

It took me about 50 dynamic encounters for me to get the gem. It's not bugged, just has a very low drop rate.

True, it's not a bug if that is the intended experience. Of course only zos can answer that for certain. We do know from what they said about the nowhere keys that those are not supposed to be extremely rare, yet they are also not dropping for people. Still not aware of *anyone* getting the new eel pie recipe at all. There is also a long history of bugged drop rates across the game: leads, event drops, mask page drops, just to name a few from recent memory.

I don't think it's asking too much for zos to check whether some of these new drops are working as intended and to let us know.

If these drop rates are intended, that's of course a different discussion to have with them.

TheBigOBob · July 14

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

IncultaWolf wrote: »

It took me about 50 dynamic encounters for me to get the gem. It's not bugged, just has a very low drop rate.

True, it's not a bug if that is the intended experience. Of course only zos can answer that for certain. We do know from what they said about the nowhere keys that those are not supposed to be extremely rare, yet they are also not dropping for people. Still not aware of *anyone* getting the new eel pie recipe at all. There is also a long history of bugged drop rates across the game: leads, event drops, mask page drops, just to name a few from recent memory.

I don't think it's asking too much for zos to check whether some of these new drops are working as intended and to let us know.

If these drop rates are intended, that's of course a different discussion to have with them.

I can say tat after 63 attempts i finally got it on the first chest of the Stonefalls Event, for something with a potentially 30min wait, 63 attempts feels ridiculously low chance. I get killing a delve boss a dozen times, annoying but tolerable, but 63 world events... and since you can get from any of the chests, that approx 168 chests i opened to get it. I don't think I've ever had to kill a delve or dung boss more than a handful of times for a lead and that is essentially what this is.

decaffeinated · July 14

alenae1b14_ESO wrote: »

33 Dynamic Encounters for me. Thieves Guild quest line completed.

I've rec'd 3 shards, 2 Style pages (both the same, belts), couple of leads, Werewolf form black.

Zero Keys, zero Agility gem.

Wow, I've gotten... none of that! You got a lot!

TBF I'm selling the drops from encournters, but I really wanted Koldane Cartel motif... EARNING it, instead of having to buy it because I don't want to run 5-10 characters through both heists and reacq quests every day.

Doozzer78 · July 16

@ZOS_Kevin

Sooooo what I’m seeing is that we have 3 “event zones” that are supposed to be fun and engaging for players.

Wait…. We can only get one fragment from 2 and the third doesn’t drop anything important.

Oh and I’m close to 70-80 of these events with no Gem Of Agility or the Pie recipe.

Can we get some clarification?

Is the recipe available?
Is the gem glitched or just has a junk drop rate?
Is the Auridon event supposed to drop something like the others? Cause the style pages are random!

Oh yea and one more thing… do we have to be on the toon that completed the quest and got the amulet to get the gem to drop?

erebus_79_ESO · July 16

I'll do 1 of each daily, so 3-5 dynamic events daily. I know its not as much as some other players...but it should be enough. I've not gotten the gem nor any keys. I've done 2x heists daily with no mysterious note. Others report new breton furnishing plans from favors; I haven't seen those rewards. My account is from beta...but my rng is cursed. When rewards are les than exciting, interest declines. is there something in the code that punishes long-term players' rng?

AzuraFan · July 16

erebus_79_ESO wrote: »

I'll do 1 of each daily, so 3-5 dynamic events daily. I know its not as much as some other players...but it should be enough. I've not gotten the gem nor any keys. I've done 2x heists daily with no mysterious note. Others report new breton furnishing plans from favors; I haven't seen those rewards. My account is from beta...but my rng is cursed. When rewards are les than exciting, interest declines. is there something in the code that punishes long-term players' rng?

I do one rotation/day on the dynamic events. The shards and bone fragments drop every day - I think they only drop once a day. The leads (fool's gold and prince tapestry) have also dropped, and I got the note a few days ago.

But I haven't received any keys or the gem after completing 25 events. Once I have 30/30 and the 10 shards/bones, that's it for me with these events until there's a timer or something else. I'm not going to be waiting around for these events to start when the stuff I need isn't dropping for me.

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

Yup, none of the new stuff drops for some of us. Already lost interest. I imagine in a month or two they're going to notice they did something wrong with the RNG (like they eventually realized with the items we had to collect to complete the writhing wall event dailies).

Please move away from the broken rng rewards and reward us for completing specific tasks and achievements and challenges (for example, the Gem of Agility could have been tied to the achievement for completing 30 dynamic encounters with maybe a RNG chance to obtain it sooner if we're absolutely wedded to RNG things).

That's a great idea. I hope they consider it going forward.

AzuraFan · July 17

The gem finally dropped for me this morning. I got it from the Stonefalls dynamic encounter, second chest.

Still no keys.

fizl101 · July 17

I’m still praying for my gem of agility. Lost count of the number of dynamic encounters done in total. Sitting on 14 red lichen though

GeneralEU · July 17

Yeah i did too many times and none Gem of Agility

zenonuk · July 17

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

Please move away from the broken rng rewards and reward us for completing specific tasks and achievements and challenges (for example, the Gem of Agility could have been tied to the achievement for completing 30 dynamic encounters with maybe a RNG chance to obtain it sooner if we're absolutely wedded to RNG things).

100% agree.

ESO's rng is just a lazy implementation - there are many games that use an element of rng, but provide some mechanism to adjust the odd in your favour when rng isn't delivering a desired outcome (e.g. by assigning points to specific character attributes/skills, or adjusting the odds as more unlucky rolls appear, etc.)

Most of the time when rng isn't in my favour I go play something else - when I want to try for a lottery win, I play the lottery.

katanagirl1 · July 17

I hope I can still get this gem and recipe. The crowds at the DEs are already starting to drop off.

People don’t like wasting their time.

allochthons · July 18

The chance for Red Lichen and Granny's Eel recipe are being bumped on Monday. Still no word on Gem of Agility.

@ZOS_Kevin Can we please be told if the incredibly small drop rate for a Mythic fragment is intentional, or if it'll be adjusted upwards?

sunlightbringer · July 19

@ZOS_Kevin pls adress this thread. We haven't gotten a confirmation if the drop rates for this are as intended or a bug.