Nerf DK

Mattymoo92
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DK is way too overtuned in PvP, it needs to be nerfed
Maybe disable its class masteries in PvP zones like you did with Signet

Now that Signet has been removed PvP will be 90% DKs with no other class to counter them. It needs serious nerfs to make other classes playable in PvP
  • beer781993
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    The only thing that is too overtuned are the bot healers you can't kill with 3 people. Healing is way too strong. They should nerf the healing you get from other players to the ground.
  • Panderbander
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    No, nerf werewolf

    z8j2p94b1c8h.png

    (33k resists, all impen gear, major and minor protection here)

    EDIT: Removed names from screenshot x_x
    Edited by Panderbander on June 29, 2026 3:19PM
    Leader of Lycan Syndicate, PC NA's tri-faction werewolf guild.~~~Played since the beta, got the monkey.~~~"The blood of the pack is now yours. They are your only family, your only allegiance!"
  • Mattymoo92
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    No, nerf werewolf

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    (33k resists, all impen gear, major and minor protection here)

    They already did lol
  • Wuuffyy
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    No, nerf werewolf

    m11zpsfhfkc4.png
    (33k resists, all impen gear, major and minor protection here)

    Yep, after seeing this I’m certain werewolf must be nerfed. You must have matrix dodged the other 2 or 3 burst moves DK uses in tandem with your wolf hacks. /s
    Edited by Wuuffyy on June 29, 2026 6:39PM
    Wuuffyy,
    WEREWOLF FINALLY GOT A REWORK AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (sorry I mean... NERF WW, one-bar BAD, DESTROY one-bar builds)
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  • Horace-Wimp
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    I disagree.

    I took my DK in a BG and was one-shotted EVERY time I dropped down from the spawn point. I was even one-shotted at the spawn point while approaching the edge.

    If anything BGs need to be fixed so that a player like me can at least get into it for a few seconds before having my [REDACTED] to me.

    Just be patient. DK was the first class to get it's revamp. in 2.5-3 years from now all the other classes will have theirs.

    If you love PvP so much go do it in the MMO Rift in the meantime. They could REALLY use hardcore PvPers.
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  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    Instead of nerfing DK why not wait for the rest of the classes to be reworked?

    There is a schedule until end of 2027 to have all classes done. So maybe wait until this is done to ask for nerfs?
    Adapt your build accordingly right not, because comes September you will be crying to nerf Wardens also. Except if you play a warden.

    No I do not play DKs.

    I am Templar purist since 2014 on PVP, and if you dig my posts you will see that from 2014 complaining about DK Vampire on Cyrodiil, especially after all the ex-emperor Vamp DK crybabies took up this very forum crying why Templars using Vamp Bane + Leash + Cammo Hunter (the original versions) where able to kill them, while at the same time the same ex-emperors Vamp DKs were boasting putting videos that they wiped X zerg balls with just 3 clicks on their own.

    End result, FG line got nerfed to oblivion and is not what supposed to be.

    So maybe wait?
  • Mattymoo92
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    Instead of nerfing DK why not wait for the rest of the classes to be reworked?

    There is a schedule until end of 2027 to have all classes done. So maybe wait until this is done to ask for nerfs?
    Adapt your build accordingly right not, because comes September you will be crying to nerf Wardens also. Except if you play a warden.

    No I do not play DKs.

    I am Templar purist since 2014 on PVP, and if you dig my posts you will see that from 2014 complaining about DK Vampire on Cyrodiil, especially after all the ex-emperor Vamp DK crybabies took up this very forum crying why Templars using Vamp Bane + Leash + Cammo Hunter (the original versions) where able to kill them, while at the same time the same ex-emperors Vamp DKs were boasting putting videos that they wiped X zerg balls with just 3 clicks on their own.

    End result, FG line got nerfed to oblivion and is not what supposed to be.

    So maybe wait?

    “Adapt ur build accordingly” impossible when they remove the only thing that can counter DKs from the game…
  • Malprave
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    For crying out loud. The last nerf already wrecked the class in pve. You want dk completely ruined I guess? Wow!
  • Panderbander
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    Mattymoo92 wrote: »

    “Adapt ur build accordingly” impossible when they remove the only thing that can counter DKs from the game…

    Yes, adapt your build.

    Looks at screenshot above and then at stats

    Yeah.
    Leader of Lycan Syndicate, PC NA's tri-faction werewolf guild.~~~Played since the beta, got the monkey.~~~"The blood of the pack is now yours. They are your only family, your only allegiance!"
  • Genfe
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    Just increase the dodge window for whip like they did with merciless resolved.
  • CalamityCat
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    This sounds a lot like "if I can't play with my signet toy, you shouldn't be able to play with your DK!"

    The signet was cringe worthy, I tried it for a few nights and it just deleted people. I'd be embarrassed to rely on that as a crutch tbh.

    DKs are fun to fight against, I've had a lot of really satisfying fights with them. But hey if you don't like them, maybe it's time to make a Warden before their refresh :D
  • Mattymoo92
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    This sounds a lot like "if I can't play with my signet toy, you shouldn't be able to play with your DK!"

    The signet was cringe worthy, I tried it for a few nights and it just deleted people. I'd be embarrassed to rely on that as a crutch tbh.

    DKs are fun to fight against, I've had a lot of really satisfying fights with them. But hey if you don't like them, maybe it's time to make a Warden before their refresh :D

    It’s not that, it’s the fact Zos have treated Sorcs like crap in forever and signet was the only thing making it competitive again that’s the thing that annoys me (not overpowered competitive)

    I think we should have a large variety of play styles not everyone getting forced into DK
    Edited by Mattymoo92 on June 29, 2026 3:52PM
  • barney2525
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    Instead of nerfing DK why not wait for the rest of the classes to be reworked?

    There is a schedule until end of 2027 to have all classes done. So maybe wait until this is done to ask for nerfs?
    Adapt your build accordingly right not, because comes September you will be crying to nerf Wardens also. Except if you play a warden.

    No I do not play DKs.

    I am Templar purist since 2014 on PVP, and if you dig my posts you will see that from 2014 complaining about DK Vampire on Cyrodiil, especially after all the ex-emperor Vamp DK crybabies took up this very forum crying why Templars using Vamp Bane + Leash + Cammo Hunter (the original versions) where able to kill them, while at the same time the same ex-emperors Vamp DKs were boasting putting videos that they wiped X zerg balls with just 3 clicks on their own.

    End result, FG line got nerfed to oblivion and is not what supposed to be.

    So maybe wait?

    yeah , good plan.

    How tough is it to just Lose every fight - Badly - until the end of 2027 ?

    Sounds like the advice of a DK

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  • Mojey87
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    99% of players calling for nerf of anything is because the get killed in PVP, in their perspective everything that kills them need nerfed.
  • Luneca
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    No, nerf werewolf

    z8j2p94b1c8h.png

    (33k resists, all impen gear, major and minor protection here)

    EDIT: Removed names from screenshot x_x

    To be fair, using roll, block, and major evasion on my NB I don't even have proper gear for, I rarely ever die to DKs whipping like that. I don't understand why players don't just gain distance -- you know what they will do and when they will do it. CC them, gain distance, etc.

    Also, major and minor protection isn't what you want. You need major evasion up 100% of the time in Cyro right now, and it's not just for DK.

    Lastly, if there is someone that's just a god...well, just fire siege!
  • Vonnegut2506
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    They should nerf threads asking for PvP nerfs. That would actually be useful.
  • CalamityCat
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    Mattymoo92 wrote: »
    It’s not that, it’s the fact Zos have treated Sorcs like crap in forever and signet was the only thing making it competitive again that’s the thing that annoys me (not overpowered competitive)

    I think we should have a large variety of play styles not everyone getting forced into DK
    Oh it was very OP IMHO. I tried my sorc with it and even with less effective sets on she just deleted people.

    I haven't made a necro yet but I PvP in all other classes as pure class builds. For me it was the subclassed mutant builds that were the worst to fight. Most of my girls have fought the new DK and some are challenging. But my sorc feels strong enough without the signet. I'm fully in favour viable alternatives to the DK, I just prefer stuff that involves a bit more skill.
  • rlindsey912nub18_ESO
    Bro are people seriously telling people to wait years just to be able to enjoy and complete on their classes that’s crazy gotta be a bot
  • Malprave
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    This sounds a lot like "if I can't play with my signet toy, you shouldn't be able to play with your DK!"

    The signet was cringe worthy, I tried it for a few nights and it just deleted people. I'd be embarrassed to rely on that as a crutch tbh.

    DKs are fun to fight against, I've had a lot of really satisfying fights with them. But hey if you don't like them, maybe it's time to make a Warden before their refresh :D

    People always accept posts like this at face value. I question this. So, you found something that was deleting other players, and you STOPPED using it. This is no ESO pvp player, like, ever…
  • BardokRedSnow
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    Bro are people seriously telling people to wait years just to be able to enjoy and complete on their classes that’s crazy gotta be a bot

    Necro has been waiting years already after yall begged zos to nerf them on these forums, I dont wanna hear it.
    Zos then: Vengeance is just a test bro

    Zos now: Do you want Vengeance permanent or permanent...
  • Luneca
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    Malprave wrote: »
    This sounds a lot like "if I can't play with my signet toy, you shouldn't be able to play with your DK!"

    The signet was cringe worthy, I tried it for a few nights and it just deleted people. I'd be embarrassed to rely on that as a crutch tbh.

    DKs are fun to fight against, I've had a lot of really satisfying fights with them. But hey if you don't like them, maybe it's time to make a Warden before their refresh :D

    People always accept posts like this at face value. I question this. So, you found something that was deleting other players, and you STOPPED using it. This is no ESO pvp player, like, ever…

    I don't use anything that deletes people. Unless you count my siege.
  • CalamityCat
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    Malprave wrote: »
    People always accept posts like this at face value. I question this. So, you found something that was deleting other players, and you STOPPED using it. This is no ESO pvp player, like, ever…
    Nothing shady at all. For starters I didn't dig up the antiquity until last week-ish because it sounded like something that was going to be nerfed quickly. I just saw a new sorc build with it and thought I'd see if it was as bad as others claimed. So I played with it on my sorc for a few nights and got some easy kills. I didn't like the actual build though, it felt more janky than her previous ones so I switched her back to PvE while I worked on something that had more longevity in it.
  • CaiWenji
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    I got hit by a 29k whip once recently, but I am not complaining. I get to steal Take Flight skill from the class with subclassing.
  • evLRise
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    Bro are people seriously telling people to wait years just to be able to enjoy and complete on their classes that’s crazy gotta be a bot

    Necro has been waiting years already after yall begged zos to nerf them on these forums, I dont wanna hear it.

    Necro actually has playable builds that work in 1v1, BGs and open world. Corpsebuster is incredibly strong. You have actually decent class masteries on necro.

    Meanwhile on a NB you need to be 100 skill levels above an opponent to have any remote chance of winning.
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  • IZZEFlameLash
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    Instead of nerfing DK why not wait for the rest of the classes to be reworked?

    There is a schedule until end of 2027 to have all classes done. So maybe wait until this is done to ask for nerfs?
    Adapt your build accordingly right not, because comes September you will be crying to nerf Wardens also. Except if you play a warden.

    No I do not play DKs.

    I am Templar purist since 2014 on PVP, and if you dig my posts you will see that from 2014 complaining about DK Vampire on Cyrodiil, especially after all the ex-emperor Vamp DK crybabies took up this very forum crying why Templars using Vamp Bane + Leash + Cammo Hunter (the original versions) where able to kill them, while at the same time the same ex-emperors Vamp DKs were boasting putting videos that they wiped X zerg balls with just 3 clicks on their own.

    End result, FG line got nerfed to oblivion and is not what supposed to be.

    So maybe wait?

    Oh, rest assured. We will be seeing 'nerf (class recently reworked)' posts every rework drop. With the same people that are advocating for nerfs now on the defensive stance for the class they play that had been reworked.

    If only hardcore pvp people actually heed their own advice: 'it's okay to die. It is just a video game'.
    Edited by IZZEFlameLash on June 30, 2026 4:39AM
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  • BardokRedSnow
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    evLRise wrote: »
    Bro are people seriously telling people to wait years just to be able to enjoy and complete on their classes that’s crazy gotta be a bot

    Necro has been waiting years already after yall begged zos to nerf them on these forums, I dont wanna hear it.

    Necro actually has playable builds that work in 1v1, BGs and open world. Corpsebuster is incredibly strong. You have actually decent class masteries on necro.

    Meanwhile on a NB you need to be 100 skill levels above an opponent to have any remote chance of winning.

    NB has been in a better spot overall far longer than Necro has when they both existed of course. Necro was practically a dead class with only some niche builds using some lines for subclassed builds, and has been ever since zos tried course correcting for necro bombing because again, yall complained so much in these forums and then had necro bombers replaced with even worse bombers of various kinds, namely rushing agony enjoyers.

    Not to mention the Assassin line was one of the most used subclass lines since it was introduced

    Yall will be ok. Let the refreshes finish, or ask zos for a buff to the class masteries since thats what they're for.
    Zos then: Vengeance is just a test bro

    Zos now: Do you want Vengeance permanent or permanent...
  • nightbringer1993
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    evLRise wrote: »
    Bro are people seriously telling people to wait years just to be able to enjoy and complete on their classes that’s crazy gotta be a bot

    Necro has been waiting years already after yall begged zos to nerf them on these forums, I dont wanna hear it.

    Necro actually has playable builds that work in 1v1, BGs and open world. Corpsebuster is incredibly strong. You have actually decent class masteries on necro.

    Meanwhile on a NB you need to be 100 skill levels above an opponent to have any remote chance of winning.

    Ever since stalking blastbone got removed Necro has been dead in PvP due to the damage loss.

    That day I switched to nightblade and I was able to finally kill people with merciless resolve burst damage.

    Then the warden got heavily buffed and I got trouble killing them especially with that infamous charm.

    Then, subclasses came out and the infamous warden/sorcerer/NB and the warden/temp/nb came out destroying PvP.

    Now the DK and the werewolf is destroying PvP and if you do not use those classes then you are dead.

    I play necromancer, and because of all the nerfs we have had like the blastbone nerf and corpse limitation. That DK patch forced me out of the game because the five years of nerfs made my class unplayable. And to have to wait one and a half years for this “PAID!” class to be playable is not acceptable.

    I paid for a content we can’t use and this is unacceptable. So I prefer to go on other games than staying in this game that placed time and effort just to witness my chars being nerfed while others are getting buffed. This is too depressing.
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  • IZZEFlameLash
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    evLRise wrote: »
    Bro are people seriously telling people to wait years just to be able to enjoy and complete on their classes that’s crazy gotta be a bot

    Necro has been waiting years already after yall begged zos to nerf them on these forums, I dont wanna hear it.

    Necro actually has playable builds that work in 1v1, BGs and open world. Corpsebuster is incredibly strong. You have actually decent class masteries on necro.

    Meanwhile on a NB you need to be 100 skill levels above an opponent to have any remote chance of winning.

    NB has been in a better spot overall far longer than Necro has when they both existed of course. Necro was practically a dead class with only some niche builds using some lines for subclassed builds, and has been ever since zos tried course correcting for necro bombing because again, yall complained so much in these forums and then had necro bombers replaced with even worse bombers of various kinds, namely rushing agony enjoyers.

    Not to mention the Assassin line was one of the most used subclass lines since it was introduced

    Yall will be ok. Let the refreshes finish, or ask zos for a buff to the class masteries since thats what they're for.

    Meanwhile, non-Pulse gank build Arcanists are crying in the corner because of the fact that Necro and NB have something functional. Kill 20 Arcanist quest takes forever to fill.
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  • aLi3nZ
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    Incinerate, breath of flame, leap into whip it’s crazy.

    The whip literally does 100k per hit when crit on the trial dummy. Insanity. Plus the players are near unkillable. Just spam vigor with breath of flame. Throw in a dodge roll and or block and you can tank multiple players.
    Edited by aLi3nZ on June 30, 2026 10:53AM
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    aLi3nZ wrote: »
    Incinerate, breath of flame, leap into whip it’s crazy.

    The whip literally does 100k per hit when crit on the trial dummy. Insanity. Plus the players are near unkillable. Just spam vigor with breath of flame. Throw in a dodge roll and or block and you can tank multiple players.

    Do you have the screenshot for that '100k per hit' whip?
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