Zenithar Parcels. Missed opportunity.

XxCaLxX · June 27

So glad these boxed do not have a cooldown. I can farm world bosses and get a box every minute or two. So I hate to complain but it really isn’t a complaint but maybe a suggestion going forward. Why in the world are these boxes so easy to get in overland but in arenas and archive they aren’t? Why not let every boss kill in archive drop a parcel? Wouldn’t that get ppl running that content. The time would be equivalent to running around Craglorn killing bosses for boxes. Doing actual content should be more rewarding that running a loop. Again not asking for any nerf to current drops because boxes aren’t spectacular but decent enough to want to farm them but make boxes drop more frequent in content so ppl are more inclined to run the content.

Arunei · June 27

I'm pretty sure there IS a cooldown on the Boxes actually, five minutes like has been the case for numerous years now. It's either taking you longer than you realize for your cooldown to, well, cool down, or there's a bug that's making them drop more frequently than they should be.

The reason drops are limited to every five minutes (in terms of WBs, Delve Bosses, and other such Bosses) is because waaaaay back in the day, people would just camp Bosses, like in the dozens. As soon as the Boss spawned it would get utterly annihilated within like a second, which prevented people who were trying to clear Delves or WBs or whatever from getting credit a lot of the time because the thing would be dead before they could get a single hit in on it.

And as it is, during events like Witches Fest, people still camp Bosses to farm them, but it's not as bad as it was in the past. People who come just wanting to clear out a Public Dungeon or something now have a chance of getting damage on The Thing they need/want credit for.

XxCaLxX · June 27

Arunei wrote: »

I'm pretty sure there IS a cooldown on the Boxes actually, five minutes like has been the case for numerous years now. It's either taking you longer than you realize for your cooldown to, well, cool down, or there's a bug that's making them drop more frequently than they should be.

The reason drops are limited to every five minutes (in terms of WBs, Delve Bosses, and other such Bosses) is because waaaaay back in the day, people would just camp Bosses, like in the dozens. As soon as the Boss spawned it would get utterly annihilated within like a second, which prevented people who were trying to clear Delves or WBs or whatever from getting credit a lot of the time because the thing would be dead before they could get a single hit in on it.

And as it is, during events like Witches Fest, people still camp Bosses to farm them, but it's not as bad as it was in the past. People who come just wanting to clear out a Public Dungeon or something now have a chance of getting damage on The Thing they need/want credit for.

There’s no cooldown on these Zenithar boxes.

DoofusMax · June 28

XxCaLxX wrote: »

So glad these boxed do not have a cooldown. I can farm world bosses and get a box every minute or two. So I hate to complain but it really isn’t a complaint but maybe a suggestion going forward. Why in the world are these boxes so easy to get in overland but in arenas and archive they aren’t? Why not let every boss kill in archive drop a parcel? Wouldn’t that get ppl running that content. The time would be equivalent to running around Craglorn killing bosses for boxes. Doing actual content should be more rewarding that running a loop. Again not asking for any nerf to current drops because boxes aren’t spectacular but decent enough to want to farm them but make boxes drop more frequent in content so ppl are more inclined to run the content.

Yes and no. Yes, there is a cooldown on coffer drops. It's about 5 minutes, which coincides nicely with WB respawn timers. No, there is no cooldown on opening coffers. Unlike story-event coffers, Zeal coffers don't have motifs or something that would go on cooldown. There might be one on furnishing plans, but I don't recall getting anything other than blues and any cooldown on those is reasonably short. Definitely no cooldowns on recipes and I don't recall getting any duplicates, either.

Nemesis7884 · June 28

XxCaLxX wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

I'm pretty sure there IS a cooldown on the Boxes actually, five minutes like has been the case for numerous years now. It's either taking you longer than you realize for your cooldown to, well, cool down, or there's a bug that's making them drop more frequently than they should be.

The reason drops are limited to every five minutes (in terms of WBs, Delve Bosses, and other such Bosses) is because waaaaay back in the day, people would just camp Bosses, like in the dozens. As soon as the Boss spawned it would get utterly annihilated within like a second, which prevented people who were trying to clear Delves or WBs or whatever from getting credit a lot of the time because the thing would be dead before they could get a single hit in on it.

And as it is, during events like Witches Fest, people still camp Bosses to farm them, but it's not as bad as it was in the past. People who come just wanting to clear out a Public Dungeon or something now have a chance of getting damage on The Thing they need/want credit for.

There’s no cooldown on these Zenithar boxes.

From my own testing very sure there is and the 5min are correct but im not sure for wb if they are per spec. Wb...
Easy way to test is with dolmens... if you do 3 diff. Dolmems with a guildie in 4min you will only get 1 box. Same 5min applied to me when I tried pickpoketing.

Sythen88411 · June 28

South Crag rifts are dropping them no cool down. Can get a box every 20 to 30 secs. I've seen guilds running groups to farm them.

Trier_Sero · June 28

Idk what cooldown are you guys talking about. I remember running with guildies getting boxes every minute or so last 3 years.

Orbital78 · June 28

Trier_Sero wrote: »

Idk what cooldown are you guys talking about. I remember running with guildies getting boxes every minute or so last 3 years.

Try doing dragons or most non-Craglorn incursions.

Arunei · June 28

Every Event that drops Boxes from things like Bosses or Incursions has had the 5 minute cooldown, unless something has changed this year or is bugged.

@ZOS_Kevin
Can we get clarification on whether the Boxes are on a timer of any kind?

XxCaLxX · June 28

There’s no way I can post a clip(that I’m aware of) but I can assure all of you that there is no cooldown on these boxes. I can literally get one every minutes doing world bosses. This isn’t even the main reason for the post. Yes I know most event recently have had the 5 minute cooldown but this one doesn’t. I’m guessing because the boxes aren’t as great as like the anniversary boxes for example. I do not know the exact reason I just know for a fact that there IS NOT a cooldown.

Trier_Sero · June 28

Orbital78 wrote: »

Try doing dragons or most non-Craglorn incursions.

Why would I do dragons? They are the hardest and subsequently longest to do.

I distinctly remember running circles in deshaan doing wbs and sometimes dolmens if those were up and getting boxes every minute or 2. In Craglorn thats even faster. I remember getting 150-200 boxes after 2+ hours of grind last year.

Gabriel_H · June 28

Arunei wrote: »

Every Event that drops Boxes from things like Bosses or Incursions has had the 5 minute cooldown, unless something has changed this year or is bugged.

@ZOS_Kevin
Can we get clarification on whether the Boxes are on a timer of any kind?

There isn't a cooldown on Zenithar Boxes BUT there is a general cooldown on looting a World Boss/Major Incurison.

So, if you kill two WBs within 4 minutes the first boss has it's usual loot table, which includes while the event is active Zenithar Boxes. The second boss has it's usual limited loot table (some gold/white drop).

Meanwhile minor incursions like in Craglorn don't have a cooldown for loot, so their loot table always includes, while the event is active, Zenithar Boxes.

Lugaldu · June 28

Well, it's really great to see that you can get a Zenithar parcel “every minute” by farming WBs at the God of Crafting event, but if you're actually crafting, you only get 1 a day!

Czeri · June 28

Lugaldu wrote: »

Well, it's really great to see that you can get a Zenithar parcel “every minute” by farming WBs at the God of Crafting event, but if you're actually crafting, you only get 1 a day!

This! I honestly forgot that the boxes are dropping from bosses just because it makes so little sense, so was feeling lucky that i had a bunch of writs accumulated and therefor would be able to fulfill the weekly endeavor by the time the event finished. Then I saw the comments and started feeling like an idiot...

Czeri · June 28

Ok, I've just tried various sources and can confirm the boxes do not drop from world bosses, public dungeon bosses, dolmens, or delve bosses for me. Is that because I've already collected all the possible crafting boxes today and so somehow reached the daily limit from all sources? Because that'd just make this even more of cruel joke on crafters...

BardokRedSnow · June 28

Trier_Sero wrote: »

Orbital78 wrote: »

Try doing dragons or most non-Craglorn incursions.

Why would I do dragons? They are the hardest and subsequently longest to do.

I distinctly remember running circles in deshaan doing wbs and sometimes dolmens if those were up and getting boxes every minute or 2. In Craglorn thats even faster. I remember getting 150-200 boxes after 2+ hours of grind last year.

Yea dont do dragons, I dont want the mats to crash in price lol.

I do them because of the fact they take the longest, so when we kill one its after the timer is over. There's definitely a timer, we get a parcel about every other dragon. Less mindless, more efficient.

SwordOfSagas · June 28

literally no cooldown on boxes doing the gargoyle rotation in craglorn, if you don't believe me go there. I've made hundreds of boxes since the start so has the other people there to.

Lugaldu · June 28

Czeri wrote: »

Ok, I've just tried various sources and can confirm the boxes do not drop from world bosses, public dungeon bosses, dolmens, or delve bosses for me. Is that because I've already collected all the possible crafting boxes today and so somehow reached the daily limit from all sources? Because that'd just make this even more of cruel joke on crafters...

I guess the reason is that you have to be in a group with guildmembers or something like that... what makes even more sense in the context of this event...

Orbital78 · June 28

Trier_Sero wrote: »

Orbital78 wrote: »

Try doing dragons or most non-Craglorn incursions.

Why would I do dragons? They are the hardest and subsequently longest to do.

I distinctly remember running circles in deshaan doing wbs and sometimes dolmens if those were up and getting boxes every minute or 2. In Craglorn thats even faster. I remember getting 150-200 boxes after 2+ hours of grind last year.

it is known that Craglorn is the outlier now, I usually do a loop of ~5 in 5 mins, rinse repeat until inventory/bank are full.

Dragons I would prefer to do, they were dying in seconds but the boxes only dropped 1 out of 2 or 3 due to timing. I've been selling rheum and blood for 2500-3000 each. Not shabby if you're getting good box drops on top of that, but Craglorn is just better overall and less effort.

Haenk · June 29

Lugaldu wrote: »

Well, it's really great to see that you can get a Zenithar parcel “every minute” by farming WBs at the God of Crafting event, but if you're actually crafting, you only get 1 a day!

Not completely true: You will get a parcel for each type of master writ, too (one per day).
Obviously, that's nothing compared to WB farming, it seems

barney2525 · June 29

XxCaLxX wrote: »

So glad these boxed do not have a cooldown. I can farm world bosses and get a box every minute or two. So I hate to complain but it really isn’t a complaint but maybe a suggestion going forward. Why in the world are these boxes so easy to get in overland but in arenas and archive they aren’t? Why not let every boss kill in archive drop a parcel? Wouldn’t that get ppl running that content. The time would be equivalent to running around Craglorn killing bosses for boxes. Doing actual content should be more rewarding that running a loop. Again not asking for any nerf to current drops because boxes aren’t spectacular but decent enough to want to farm them but make boxes drop more frequent in content so ppl are more inclined to run the content.

do these not work in DLC zones?

I was in Wrothgar yesterday, (doing my stupid 1000 bunny rabbit kills ), and was in on several WB kills.

Got WB loot

Got 0 boxes

Sheridan · June 29

This Zenithar Festival always feels more like the Undaunted Event, since rewards from crafting are limited and rewards from monster slaying are unlimited...

Hypnotica713 · June 29

barney2525 wrote: »

do these not work in DLC zones?

I was in Wrothgar yesterday, (doing my stupid 1000 bunny rabbit kills ), and was in on several WB kills.

Got WB loot

Got 0 boxes

Were you grouped with a guild member killing these world bosses in Wrothgar? It is a requirement of this event to be grouped with a guild member to get boxes from bosses.