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Serpent's disdain and Tundra's maw
d8rmir
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I understand from some content creators and esologs that Serpent's disdain set increases the duration of the Major Brittle debuff from Tundra's maw passive.
Strictly speaking, chilled is the status effect and not major brittle, so I would expect the duration of chilled to be increased. And Tundra's maw procs on application of the status effect, so a longer duration of the status effect should not matter.
Questions:
1) Is this true?
2) Does the same interaction happen with e.g. minor vulnerability applied by concussion?
3) Is this intended?
Strictly speaking, chilled is the status effect and not major brittle, so I would expect the duration of chilled to be increased. And Tundra's maw procs on application of the status effect, so a longer duration of the status effect should not matter.
Questions:
1) Is this true?
2) Does the same interaction happen with e.g. minor vulnerability applied by concussion?
3) Is this intended?
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Elendildur✭✭✭Not sure about 1 and 3, but for 2, yes, it absolutely increases the duration of debuffs applies by statuses0 -
Kickimanjaro✭✭✭✭Pretty sure the answer is yes to all three questions.
My understanding is this:- Serpent's Disdain increases duration of status effects by 16s.
- In game status effects help page describes the status effects as applying for 4s, including additional buff applications like Vuln or Magickasteal, as part of the status effect.
- These combine, so when wearing the set your status effects (and their associated debuffs) are increased to 20s.
- Tundra's Maw seems to just augment your Chilled status effect to include Major Brittle along with Minor Maim.
Edited by Kickimanjaro on June 23, 2026 3:54PMgood thoughts, good words, good actions2 -
d8rmir✭✭✭I understand your point about other status effects and I agree, concussion IS minor vulnerability, the two cannot be separated.
But Tundra's maw explicitly states a duration of 2 seconds, which already conflicts with it being tied to chilled.
To be clear: I am not arguing against anyone, I am just trying to figure out the game's rules.
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VoidParticle✭✭✭I understand your point about other status effects and I agree, concussion IS minor vulnerability, the two cannot be separated.
But Tundra's maw explicitly states a duration of 2 seconds, which already conflicts with it being tied to chilled.
To be clear: I am not arguing against anyone, I am just trying to figure out the game's rules.
I can go put minor vulnerability on Trample. I'm pretty sure you can get it on some 5 pc sets as well. So it doesn't seem to be tied to concussion.0 -
Elendildur✭✭✭VoidParticle wrote: »I understand your point about other status effects and I agree, concussion IS minor vulnerability, the two cannot be separated.
But Tundra's maw explicitly states a duration of 2 seconds, which already conflicts with it being tied to chilled.
To be clear: I am not arguing against anyone, I am just trying to figure out the game's rules.
I can go put minor vulnerability on Trample. I'm pretty sure you can get it on some 5 pc sets as well. So it doesn't seem to be tied to concussion.
Just because you can get Minor Vuln from other sources doesn't affect it when it comes from Concussed. Serpent's Disdain extends the duration of Minor Vuln specifically when it is applied by Concussed, not from other sources0 -
d8rmir✭✭✭VoidParticle wrote: »I understand your point about other status effects and I agree, concussion IS minor vulnerability, the two cannot be separated.
But Tundra's maw explicitly states a duration of 2 seconds, which already conflicts with it being tied to chilled.
To be clear: I am not arguing against anyone, I am just trying to figure out the game's rules.
I can go put minor vulnerability on Trample. I'm pretty sure you can get it on some 5 pc sets as well. So it doesn't seem to be tied to concussion.
Bad wording from me. You cannot apply concussion without minor vulnerability. That's what I meant. The other way around is of course possible. There are plenty of skills that do this, like swarm, ambush, boneyard,...
But you can apply chilled without applying major brittle, actually all the time unless you are a warden with Tundra's maw, and its duration does not align with the duration of chilled anyway. This is the point of this discussion and what makes this interaction feel not correctly implemented, in my opinion.0 -
YandereGirlfriend✭✭✭✭✭
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Serpent's has extended Minor Brittle since the set came out back in Greymoor or whatever. So the underlying behavior is not new by any means.0 -
d8rmir✭✭✭The behaviour is a couple of weeks old as far as I know, major brittle was not related with chilled before u50.
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