Empower now increases heavy attack damage to monsters by 150%?

HairyFairy · June 21

I always knew it to be 70%, did this change last patch?

Thanks,
HF

Sordidfairytale · June 21

They changed it with this patch. Short version. It was being calculated incorrectly. When they moved the calculation to the correct type it changed how much damage a heavy attack was doing, so they increased it back to where it was allllllll the way back when they first made the change so that it only affected monsters.

Vaqual · June 21

They changed the formula and it is no longer applied multiplicatively. To keep the effective damage bonus somewhat in the same ballpark they upped the value. Players with fewer % damage modifiers will see a buff from this.

Gabriel_H · June 21

Previously:

Deadly Strike + Master-At-Arms + Velothi + Empower = (1 + 0.15 + 0.06) x 1.15 x 1.70 = 2.37 damage increase

Now:

Deadly Strike + Master-At-Arms + Velothi + Empower = 1 + 0.15 + 0.06 + 0.15 + 1.50 = 2.86 damage increase

As more damage modifiers are added, the difference between the previous calculation and now lessens until it's roughly the same. Without the huge buff to empower it would be a massive damage reduction for heavy attacks.

PeacefulAnarchy · June 21

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Previously:

Deadly Strike + Master-At-Arms + Velothi + Empower = (1 + 0.15 + 0.06) x 1.15 x 1.70 = 2.37 damage increase

Now:

Deadly Strike + Master-At-Arms + Velothi + Empower = 1 + 0.15 + 0.06 + 0.15 + 1.50 = 2.86 damage increase

As more damage modifiers are added, the difference between the previous calculation and now lessens until it's roughly the same. Without the huge buff to empower it would be a massive damage reduction for heavy attacks.

Your general point about how additive vs multiplicative works is correct, but no one uses Velothi on a HA build, since it reduces HA to 1%. The most common use cases, oakensoul and voidmantle, both come with other even stronger buffs which make the difference even smaller.

Gabriel_H · June 21

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Previously:

Deadly Strike + Master-At-Arms + Velothi + Empower = (1 + 0.15 + 0.06) x 1.15 x 1.70 = 2.37 damage increase

Now:

Deadly Strike + Master-At-Arms + Velothi + Empower = 1 + 0.15 + 0.06 + 0.15 + 1.50 = 2.86 damage increase

As more damage modifiers are added, the difference between the previous calculation and now lessens until it's roughly the same. Without the huge buff to empower it would be a massive damage reduction for heavy attacks.

Your general point about how additive vs multiplicative works is correct, but no one uses Velothi on a HA build, since it reduces HA to 1%. The most common use cases, oakensoul and voidmantle, both come with other even stronger buffs which make the difference even smaller.

It's a mathematical example, not a deep delve into build mechanics.