Under 50 Battlegrounds is actually SO HORRIBLE

randconfig · March 13

What am I supposed to do at level 18 with 8k stamina and 200 stamina recovery?

I literally do break free a single time and I cannot do anything else until I die. What did you do to Battlegrounds ZOS? Low level Battlegrounds on a new toon used to be very fun, whatever you did, it's the opposite now. If I was a new player and this was my experience, I would never touch PvP again.

Maybe these adjustments are okay on a stamina build..? But for any magicka player, you literally can't do anything vs any CC or having to simply sprint across the battlefield.

What is level 50 battlegrounds like now?

randconfig · March 13

Break free costs like 5,400 stamina, so I can literally do it one time.

Roll dodge costs like 3,600 stamina, so I can do it twice.

Can't do both... And it takes (5,400 / (200 stamina per 2 seconds)) = 54 seconds in battlegrounds before I regenerate enough to do a single break free.

It's literally more efficient to just use all your resources and die to regenerate your resources since the respawn timer is like 9 seconds.

Seriously, can someone explain to me what the devs are doing here, or provide any information as to why these changes were made?

tsaescishoeshiner · March 30

For an under 50 character, Health, Stamina, Magicka, and resources are all 1/3 of what they are outside of BG. This has been the most aggravating experience in ESO by far. Every under-50 match lasts the full 15 minutes because when you break free once, half of your stamina is gone. And since your recovery is also 1/3 of normal, you can use one skill every 5-10 seconds. There's no way this is intended and it's absolutely horrible.

What's worse--it seemingly doesn't impact everything. For example, my critical chance is 10% higher than outside of BG. Some players get 30-40 kills each battleground, so there may be some stat sources that are not affected by this bug or modifier. But it's not clear what they are, so the few players who seem to know what the deal is are benefiting disproportionately, and no one I've asked seems to know what exactly is and isn't affected.

valenwood_vegan · March 30

I don't think they've even acknowledged this issue? At least not in several threads I've seen. Which I guess says something in and of itself. Putting aside all the other aspects of this issue for just a second, it scares me that they're ok with new players encountering this experience. We badly need new players.

method__01 · March 31

un-play-able ,wth im supposed to do with 9k health

CameraBeardThePirate · March 31

@ZOS_Kevin Is this being looked at? Is it a known issue? I haven't had a lowbie character since Arcanist released, but for many new players, u-50 BGs are their first foray into PvP, and having it soured by a horrendous bug like this is detrimental to the end game PvP population as it further turns off new players to an already difficult to pick up PvP environment.

xylena · April 1

Also related to level scaling, this mode is long overdue to be "Under 160CP" or similar.

Shadowpriesthel · June 8

@ZOS_Kevin please do something about this

Shadowpriesthel · June 8

@ZOS_BrianWheeler i heard you say about combat changes, but please fix this before your team changes anything about the combat.

Blaqmagik · June 15

lol my level 10-14 stam/health Alliance food is giving me 900 stam/health on my level 18 toon. Wtf is this haha

Usureki · June 18

Wow, I already knew ZOS's care for BG PvP is close to zero, but this is just a new low. Gave a shot at under level 50 battlegrounds and it is worse an experience than a closed-alpha stage game. This is ridiculous, I honestly do not understand how they expect people to play this game after they experience this, as a core feature of an MMO - new players are nagged with crown store, battle pass and whatnots, but when they want to play the actual game, well its their problem ain't it? I don't think it is in the benefit of the future of the ESO community, this deserves a revision! Please, dear DEVs, aim to revise it together with all the other Battlegrounds ASAP!

SandandStars · June 18

As a corollary: I sat in the under 50 bg queue for nearly 40 minutes on a Thursday night recently and never got a match.

xbox NA

Apparently no one likes em.

Luneca · 2:26AM

SandandStars wrote: »

As a corollary: I sat in the under 50 bg queue for nearly 40 minutes on a Thursday night recently and never got a match.

xbox NA

Apparently no one likes em.

No point when you'll be food for WWs anyway.

mmtaniac · 4:28AM

Under 50level should be Vengeance style BG for new players. I know people won't learn much this way but still learn more than in current farm fest for twink veterans. Some people will argue with me and defend they farm fest festival.