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PVP BG daily needs a rework!
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CameraBeardThePirate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »Lenascissorhands wrote: »CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »You already have people joining a BG and AFKing because they're "Just here for the daily!"
and you want to encourage that more?
Yeah probably because they have wasted 2-3 hours of non stop queueing for something they don't want to be in because the un balanced pvp in the game has had them in 13 matches that were all losses and they still don't have the daily BG done... If they were to change it to participate as I said we would be in one match and then gone for the rest of the day playing the actual game! There would be a LOT less people in there that don't want to be there if they just make it participate!
You could just, not do that daily? There's nothing requiring you to do the daily.
Or, you could build a super tanky build and play exclusively for objectives. I assure you by building an unkillable tank you can single handedly win objective modes for your team.
Yes and no. Nobody is "forced" to do a BG daily, per se, but lets all be real for a moment; the BG daily is the only other viable source of the high daily XP and currency besides the dungeon daily.
It's not as thought the game has various sources to earn crystals or high XP pools like that. Anyone looking to level a skill line, a toon, or replenish their currency reserve to support build crafting is shoe horned into doing those dailies by proxy.
Dungeons are fine because there's a consistent baseline with those, that's not the case with BGs.
Even if the system would give a player the XP and daily reward coffer for hitting the RFTW threshold (rather than just the RFTW) then that would be fine. That way a player could choose any of the 3 PvP options, not just BGs.
If you're playing a BG without a fully leveled skill line no wonder you're not winning.
If you want to level skill lines, there are a number of base game and DLC spots to grind XP that re much more efficient than Battlegrounds dailies. nBRP for example can level a skill line incredibly fast and can be done solo without losing much efficiency.0 -
CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »Lenascissorhands wrote: »CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »You already have people joining a BG and AFKing because they're "Just here for the daily!"
and you want to encourage that more?
Yeah probably because they have wasted 2-3 hours of non stop queueing for something they don't want to be in because the un balanced pvp in the game has had them in 13 matches that were all losses and they still don't have the daily BG done... If they were to change it to participate as I said we would be in one match and then gone for the rest of the day playing the actual game! There would be a LOT less people in there that don't want to be there if they just make it participate!
You could just, not do that daily? There's nothing requiring you to do the daily.
Or, you could build a super tanky build and play exclusively for objectives. I assure you by building an unkillable tank you can single handedly win objective modes for your team.
Yeah that's not an option there are only 2 sources of GOOD xp per day and that's the daily BG and the daily Dungeon so yeah we are forced to do it if we aren't 3600 yet. And as for builds NOPE not an option I'm not going to sit here for hours on end each day redoing every build on every character just for a mode that we don't need in the game. And before you get all bent out of shape I've made a pvp build twice and both times the armory broke 3-4 days later and won't let me back into the build so NO a tanky build is not a viable option. They just plain out need to either remove the pvp daily and double up the dungeon one or make the PVP one participate as stated in the OP.1 -
OsUfi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lenascissorhands wrote: »CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »Lenascissorhands wrote: »CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »You already have people joining a BG and AFKing because they're "Just here for the daily!"
and you want to encourage that more?
Yeah probably because they have wasted 2-3 hours of non stop queueing for something they don't want to be in because the un balanced pvp in the game has had them in 13 matches that were all losses and they still don't have the daily BG done... If they were to change it to participate as I said we would be in one match and then gone for the rest of the day playing the actual game! There would be a LOT less people in there that don't want to be there if they just make it participate!
You could just, not do that daily? There's nothing requiring you to do the daily.
Or, you could build a super tanky build and play exclusively for objectives. I assure you by building an unkillable tank you can single handedly win objective modes for your team.
Yeah that's not an option there are only 2 sources of GOOD xp per day and that's the daily BG and the daily Dungeon so yeah we are forced to do it if we aren't 3600 yet. And as for builds NOPE not an option I'm not going to sit here for hours on end each day redoing every build on every character just for a mode that we don't need in the game. And before you get all bent out of shape I've made a pvp build twice and both times the armory broke 3-4 days later and won't let me back into the build so NO a tanky build is not a viable option. They just plain out need to either remove the pvp daily and double up the dungeon one or make the PVP one participate as stated in the OP.
Thats awesome. So as I'm a lowly 2600 cp character, you won't mind me joining you for an RND every day and I'll sit at the entrance not doing anything, and I'm certain you won't kick me.
Edited by OsUfi on June 16, 2026 10:05AM1 -
Lenascissorhands wrote: »CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »Lenascissorhands wrote: »CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »You already have people joining a BG and AFKing because they're "Just here for the daily!"
and you want to encourage that more?
Yeah probably because they have wasted 2-3 hours of non stop queueing for something they don't want to be in because the un balanced pvp in the game has had them in 13 matches that were all losses and they still don't have the daily BG done... If they were to change it to participate as I said we would be in one match and then gone for the rest of the day playing the actual game! There would be a LOT less people in there that don't want to be there if they just make it participate!
You could just, not do that daily? There's nothing requiring you to do the daily.
Or, you could build a super tanky build and play exclusively for objectives. I assure you by building an unkillable tank you can single handedly win objective modes for your team.
Yeah that's not an option there are only 2 sources of GOOD xp per day and that's the daily BG and the daily Dungeon so yeah we are forced to do it if we aren't 3600 yet. And as for builds NOPE not an option I'm not going to sit here for hours on end each day redoing every build on every character just for a mode that we don't need in the game. And before you get all bent out of shape I've made a pvp build twice and both times the armory broke 3-4 days later and won't let me back into the build so NO a tanky build is not a viable option. They just plain out need to either remove the pvp daily and double up the dungeon one or make the PVP one participate as stated in the OP.
Thats awesome. So as I'm a lowly 2600 cp character, you won't mind me joining you for an RND every day and I'll sit at the entrance not doing anything, and I'm certain you won't kick me.
No one does that because everyone likes playing the actual game and doing dungeons. No one likes the pvp side and when you are forced into it and end up on a team with 0 points and the other team has 400+ because your team is worried about KD instead of the objective yeah expect people to sit afk in the spawn.1 -
AScarlato✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Lenascissorhands wrote: »Lenascissorhands wrote: »CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »Lenascissorhands wrote: »CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »You already have people joining a BG and AFKing because they're "Just here for the daily!"
and you want to encourage that more?
Yeah probably because they have wasted 2-3 hours of non stop queueing for something they don't want to be in because the un balanced pvp in the game has had them in 13 matches that were all losses and they still don't have the daily BG done... If they were to change it to participate as I said we would be in one match and then gone for the rest of the day playing the actual game! There would be a LOT less people in there that don't want to be there if they just make it participate!
You could just, not do that daily? There's nothing requiring you to do the daily.
Or, you could build a super tanky build and play exclusively for objectives. I assure you by building an unkillable tank you can single handedly win objective modes for your team.
Yeah that's not an option there are only 2 sources of GOOD xp per day and that's the daily BG and the daily Dungeon so yeah we are forced to do it if we aren't 3600 yet. And as for builds NOPE not an option I'm not going to sit here for hours on end each day redoing every build on every character just for a mode that we don't need in the game. And before you get all bent out of shape I've made a pvp build twice and both times the armory broke 3-4 days later and won't let me back into the build so NO a tanky build is not a viable option. They just plain out need to either remove the pvp daily and double up the dungeon one or make the PVP one participate as stated in the OP.
Thats awesome. So as I'm a lowly 2600 cp character, you won't mind me joining you for an RND every day and I'll sit at the entrance not doing anything, and I'm certain you won't kick me.
No one does that because everyone likes playing the actual game and doing dungeons. No one likes the pvp side and when you are forced into it and end up on a team with 0 points and the other team has 400+ because your team is worried about KD instead of the objective yeah expect people to sit afk in the spawn.
I see this a lot. Even worse when the person padding their kill score is toxic on top of it.
In the 3-team ball event, I had one person farm the weak team that had Zero (yes zero) points. Spawn camping their members that they could 2-shot and waiting long times for them to leave base.
Our team ended up in second place, because the first place team was all strong and we had to 3 v 4 them. At the end the spawn camper with his kills said "you are all bots!" Because we came in second. Yes zero-point teammate who added nothing to actually win as the zero-point team had no chance of winning anyway.
Makes me roll my eyes.2 -
OsUfi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lenascissorhands wrote: »Lenascissorhands wrote: »CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »Lenascissorhands wrote: »CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »You already have people joining a BG and AFKing because they're "Just here for the daily!"
and you want to encourage that more?
Yeah probably because they have wasted 2-3 hours of non stop queueing for something they don't want to be in because the un balanced pvp in the game has had them in 13 matches that were all losses and they still don't have the daily BG done... If they were to change it to participate as I said we would be in one match and then gone for the rest of the day playing the actual game! There would be a LOT less people in there that don't want to be there if they just make it participate!
You could just, not do that daily? There's nothing requiring you to do the daily.
Or, you could build a super tanky build and play exclusively for objectives. I assure you by building an unkillable tank you can single handedly win objective modes for your team.
Yeah that's not an option there are only 2 sources of GOOD xp per day and that's the daily BG and the daily Dungeon so yeah we are forced to do it if we aren't 3600 yet. And as for builds NOPE not an option I'm not going to sit here for hours on end each day redoing every build on every character just for a mode that we don't need in the game. And before you get all bent out of shape I've made a pvp build twice and both times the armory broke 3-4 days later and won't let me back into the build so NO a tanky build is not a viable option. They just plain out need to either remove the pvp daily and double up the dungeon one or make the PVP one participate as stated in the OP.
Thats awesome. So as I'm a lowly 2600 cp character, you won't mind me joining you for an RND every day and I'll sit at the entrance not doing anything, and I'm certain you won't kick me.
No one does that because everyone likes playing the actual game and doing dungeons. No one likes the pvp side and when you are forced into it and end up on a team with 0 points and the other team has 400+ because your team is worried about KD instead of the objective yeah expect people to sit afk in the spawn.
I hate dungeons and the unbelievably toxic portion of the mid-tier PvE community that infests them. According to this thread, 55% of voters PvP regularly, and again, you're not forced into it. It is a choice you make to mess up other peoples game time.
Edited by OsUfi on June 16, 2026 5:50PM1 -
Lenascissorhands wrote: »Lenascissorhands wrote: »CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »Lenascissorhands wrote: »CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »You already have people joining a BG and AFKing because they're "Just here for the daily!"
and you want to encourage that more?
Yeah probably because they have wasted 2-3 hours of non stop queueing for something they don't want to be in because the un balanced pvp in the game has had them in 13 matches that were all losses and they still don't have the daily BG done... If they were to change it to participate as I said we would be in one match and then gone for the rest of the day playing the actual game! There would be a LOT less people in there that don't want to be there if they just make it participate!
You could just, not do that daily? There's nothing requiring you to do the daily.
Or, you could build a super tanky build and play exclusively for objectives. I assure you by building an unkillable tank you can single handedly win objective modes for your team.
Yeah that's not an option there are only 2 sources of GOOD xp per day and that's the daily BG and the daily Dungeon so yeah we are forced to do it if we aren't 3600 yet. And as for builds NOPE not an option I'm not going to sit here for hours on end each day redoing every build on every character just for a mode that we don't need in the game. And before you get all bent out of shape I've made a pvp build twice and both times the armory broke 3-4 days later and won't let me back into the build so NO a tanky build is not a viable option. They just plain out need to either remove the pvp daily and double up the dungeon one or make the PVP one participate as stated in the OP.
Thats awesome. So as I'm a lowly 2600 cp character, you won't mind me joining you for an RND every day and I'll sit at the entrance not doing anything, and I'm certain you won't kick me.
No one does that because everyone likes playing the actual game and doing dungeons. No one likes the pvp side and when you are forced into it and end up on a team with 0 points and the other team has 400+ because your team is worried about KD instead of the objective yeah expect people to sit afk in the spawn.
I hate dungeons and the unbelievably toxic portion of the mid-tier PvE community that infests them. According to this thread, 55% of voters PvP regularly, and again, you're not forced into it. It is a choice you make to mess up other peoples game time.
WE ARE FORCED into this because it's the best way to get xp daily! I don't see the point of the argument here just make it participate and we all get what we want the pve people get to get back to the actual game and the pvp people don't have to deal with afk pve players in their game mode it's win win no matter how you look at it! The only other option is to get rid of the xp daily in pvp and double it in the random dungeon!1 -
ShutUpitsRed✭✭✭✭✭Well then the daily dungeon should be participation-only as well, as long as you load into the dungeon you get the XP, and you can't kick people from your group either.1 -
ShutUpitsRed wrote: »Well then the daily dungeon should be participation-only as well, as long as you load into the dungeon you get the XP, and you can't kick people from your group either.
That's fine no one gets upset about dungeons and goes AKF in them because it's part of the actual game! People like doing dungeons and getting loot and rewards unlike pvp where you get nothing for it but bragging rights for playing the 1 class that was reworked.0