Am I reading U50 right?

DarkStrifeYT · June 4

Better Werewolf via model and abilities, Nerfed Dk whip, buffed pure class, nerfed subclass, SHEOGORATH, thieves guild expansion, Difficulties. Numerous pvp nerfs and changes.

Anything I'm missing here or wrong on any?

DenverRalphy · June 4

Nerfed subclass?

LunaFlora · June 4

you should read the pts patch notes as they list everything new and changed in update 50.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/691059/pts-patch-notes-v12-0-0
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/691510/pts-patch-notes-v12-0-1
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/691879/pts-patch-notes-v12-0-2
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/692220/pts-patch-notes-v12-0-3
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/692756/pts-patch-notes-v12-0-4

it seems like your post is about:
- Werewolf refresh
- Class Mastery, for if you do not use subclassing.
- Challenge difficulty for overland.
- Veterancy and Vengeance campaign for PvP.
- the new Sheo and Thieves Guild questlines.

And the whip change is this:
Dragonknight
Ardent Flame
Lava Whip
Flame Lash: This morph no longer grants increased damage done after consuming all charges, as we have recontextualized damage into the Class Mastery system.
Molten Whip: This morph no longer grants increased damage done per stack, as we have recontextualized damage into the Class Mastery system.

BardokRedSnow · June 4

dk whip is only "nerfed" because class mastery gives you three different instances of increasing your damage. In other words if you're not pure dk its a nerf, if you're pure dk you're getting buffed overall.

OsUfi · June 5

There is no nerf to subclassing.

It's over-performing. Instead of nerfing anything, ZoS are buffing everyone else.

Isn't that what the community has been saying they want for years now?

Toanis · June 5

Pure classes get a buff to make subclassing more of a gameplay choice instead of a power boost, but of course there will be a new mandatory meta.

There's also overland difficulty settings to counter the overall power increase. (Including an XP bonus to shorten the time you need to spend in Alik'r to level your Werewolf Nightblade)

frogthroat · June 5

Toanis wrote: »

(Including an XP bonus to shorten the time you need to spend in Alik'r to level your Werewolf Nightblade)

Does that work? In anticipation of WW change I levelled up my WW on all toons and discovered that if I have even a companion out, I did not get the 5 points from a kill if Ember did the killing blow. I would imagine I would not get the points if another player does the killing blow.

The most effective method I found was to make sure you have full ulti, get the WW bite from NPC, go to The Hunting Grounds, avoid trash when you go kill the tribute, afterwards remain in The Hunting Grounds and kill the mobs 3 times - that levels you up to level 4. (After that it's diminishing returns, so I don't recommend a fourth lap.) Then go to a place where you have an easy access to ulti well (I chose Serenity Falls Estate in Reaper's March), charge your ulti, kill wasps and goblins between Sren-Ja wayshrine, Dawnmead Ruin Camp and Thizzrini Arena, add and morph skills as you level up. There are some tigers and skeevers, too but their respawn is slower. Kill them if they're there but don't count on them to respawn. The wasps and goblins respawn really fast. Once you can morph your ulti, do that, it drops you out of WW form, go charge it at Serenity Falls Estate, out again and kill wasps and goblins until level 10.

If you use a companion, make it a tank or a healer. I tried a DD companion but she landed the killing blow too often and made it slower.