Big blocking shield icon needs to GO

HannDrake · May 19

Please, give us a option to disable the block indicator (at least on client side) . Its too big and honestly, kinda kills my immersion. Kinda makes no sense this being mandatory also, because it is already possible to disable a lot of UI elements - some of which are even more important.

And it has been bugging me for years, since it was added.

Tallon_IV · May 19

People (including me) didn't like it when they first added it and asked for this, but ZO$ doubled down.

Soarora · May 19

I never liked it. I don’t even use it to know I’m blocking. I use my stance and also an addon that says I’m blocking because the shield icon will get lost in the effects of combat.

YandereGirlfriend · May 19

I also do not like the icon.

Looks too much like the Skyrim Glass Shield, which is a motif that I never vibed with.

Definitely should be a toggle (defaulted to ON, of course, because the information is useful in a vacuum).

AcadianPaladin · May 19

I love it. My mage raises her staff in front of her and a magical shield appears - awesome. That said, I can certainly understand others who may want the option in settings to disable it from view.

Gabriel_H · May 19

Hard no. Do not encourage the messing about with block related code. After all these years the vast majority of block bugs have finally been resolved. Lets not tempt fate.

Sluggy · May 20

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Hard no. Do not encourage the messing about with block related code. After all these years the vast majority of block bugs have finally been resolved. Lets not tempt fate.

This would be a simple client-side rendering change. No need to touch any actual blocking logic, only some visual flourishes that trigger from the block event being received. It's a safe, one-way data transfer that can't affect the block logic. If you wanted to be even 'safer' about it then the 'safest' way would be something as easy as making the icon an invisible texture. Literally no logic changed anywhere with something like that.

spartaxoxo · May 20

I'd rather fix other things than this but if they have the spare time, why not. I do think at a certain point you just gotta accept a way the game runs though.

Alp · May 20

At least make it a gameplay option to hide it yes. It's really ugly.

Gabriel_H · May 20

Sluggy wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Hard no. Do not encourage the messing about with block related code. After all these years the vast majority of block bugs have finally been resolved. Lets not tempt fate.

This would be a simple client-side rendering change. No need to touch any actual blocking logic, only some visual flourishes that trigger from the block event being received. It's a safe, one-way data transfer that can't affect the block logic. If you wanted to be even 'safer' about it then the 'safest' way would be something as easy as making the icon an invisible texture. Literally no logic changed anywhere with something like that.

It wouldn't be. Animation code is embedded in the action code, and that code is spaghetti - ZOS' word for it, not mine.

Emeratis · May 20

A decent compromise could be to make it a toggleable setting in options. I'm def in the camp of I dislike it especially for ruining screenshots sometimes but I also know people who rely on it so it would be nice to have an option. It feels like a natural option to put into interface or gameplay.

Another option could be to have it hidden when you go into screenshot mode ui. I already am hoping they add more things to that such as passive/Zerith-var glow of nodes being hidden when you turn ui assets off for a screenshot. It would be another step towards my goal of eso getting a proper screenshot mode.

konrad.reibinger · May 20

Sluggy wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Hard no. Do not encourage the messing about with block related code. After all these years the vast majority of block bugs have finally been resolved. Lets not tempt fate.

This would be a simple client-side rendering change. No need to touch any actual blocking logic, only some visual flourishes that trigger from the block event being received. It's a safe, one-way data transfer that can't affect the block logic. If you wanted to be even 'safer' about it then the 'safest' way would be something as easy as making the icon an invisible texture. Literally no logic changed anywhere with something like that.

sounds like and adventure for 5 patches

HannDrake · May 20

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Sluggy wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Hard no. Do not encourage the messing about with block related code. After all these years the vast majority of block bugs have finally been resolved. Lets not tempt fate.

This would be a simple client-side rendering change. No need to touch any actual blocking logic, only some visual flourishes that trigger from the block event being received. It's a safe, one-way data transfer that can't affect the block logic. If you wanted to be even 'safer' about it then the 'safest' way would be something as easy as making the icon an invisible texture. Literally no logic changed anywhere with something like that.

It wouldn't be. Animation code is embedded in the action code, and that code is spaghetti - ZOS' word for it, not mine.

Even if it is that complicated, they should still do it. After all, it is doesnt show in first person, it should not be that complex.

frogthroat · May 20

Sluggy wrote: »

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Hard no. Do not encourage the messing about with block related code. After all these years the vast majority of block bugs have finally been resolved. Lets not tempt fate.

This would be a simple client-side rendering change. No need to touch any actual blocking logic, only some visual flourishes that trigger from the block event being received. It's a safe, one-way data transfer that can't affect the block logic. If you wanted to be even 'safer' about it then the 'safest' way would be something as easy as making the icon an invisible texture. Literally no logic changed anywhere with something like that.

And then they do it, only client side to not mess with the code, and all of a sudden you can shoot players with cold fire trebuchet in Vivec City and blocking costs 2000 hp / s.

CameraBeardThePirate · May 20

The block indicator is necessary in PvP, where visual clutter makes it difficult to see if someone is holding their weapon at a slightly different angle. It provides an immediate and easy-to-recognize signal that your target is blocking

CatalinaWineMixer2 · May 20

Please do not change this. It is useful for many people and there are bigger issues that need more attention in combat.

HannDrake · May 20

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

The block indicator is necessary in PvP, where visual clutter makes it difficult to see if someone is holding their weapon at a slightly different angle. It provides an immediate and easy-to-recognize signal that your target is blocking

CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »

Please do not change this. It is useful for many people and there are bigger issues that need more attention in combat.

That's why I'm asking for a OPTION to do it. You guys can leave it on if you wish.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · May 21

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

The block indicator is necessary in PvP, where visual clutter makes it difficult to see if someone is holding their weapon at a slightly different angle. It provides an immediate and easy-to-recognize signal that your target is blocking

No it is not necessary, knowing every move your opponent will make takes the joy out of PvP.

noblecron · May 21

I wouldn't mind an option to disable it. I get the reasoning for it but still so annoying especially when trying to take screenshots