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The Sunken Cost of Two Team 4v4 BGs
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This could be taken two ways so I want to be clear i am not talking about abandoning two team development because there are at least 10 or 12 people in eso that enjoy the format. And those people should be able to play the game they enjoy.
I am talking about individual bgs and the sunken cost of adding players to an existing match.
There are countless reasons people leave bgs, but the vast .ajority do so because of the invariably lopsided outcomes.
Please do not force us to join existing bgs. Maybe make it an option in the ui to only join new bgs. I mean, there is a reason people leave bgs and most of the time it's already over when someone joins.
I will say there are times when joining a bg i jave been able to turn things around woth my team, but that is rare. I am not saying dont ever add people, just gove us the option to opt out of joining a bg in Progress.
Edited by Thumbless_Bot on April 30, 2026 7:56PM I am talking about individual bgs and the sunken cost of adding players to an existing match.
There are countless reasons people leave bgs, but the vast .ajority do so because of the invariably lopsided outcomes.
Please do not force us to join existing bgs. Maybe make it an option in the ui to only join new bgs. I mean, there is a reason people leave bgs and most of the time it's already over when someone joins.
I will say there are times when joining a bg i jave been able to turn things around woth my team, but that is rare. I am not saying dont ever add people, just gove us the option to opt out of joining a bg in Progress.
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They just need to add a surrender vote to bgs.
I also dont mind joining mid game. sometimes i can turn it around for the team, and vice versa. Sometimes their new player turns the game for them.0 -
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✭SundarahFr3akinrican wrote: »They just need to add a surrender vote to bgs.
I also dont mind joining mid game. sometimes i can turn it around for the team, and vice versa. Sometimes their new player turns the game for them.
Surrender is not a bad option and I agree about joining mid-game. It can be fun. Just having the ability to opt out would be nice. Also the vote thing would require a majority probably, whatever that os depending on the number of players.0 -
thesarahandcompany✭✭✭✭Thumbless_Bot wrote: »This could be taken two ways so I want to be clear i am not talking about abandoning two team development because there are at least 10 or 12 people in eso that enjoy the format. And those people should be able to play the game they enjoy.
I am talking about individual bgs and the sunken cost of adding players to an existing match.
There are countless reasons people leave bgs, but the vast .ajority do so because of the invariably lopsided outcomes.
Please do not force us to join existing bgs. Maybe make it an option in the ui to only join new bgs. I mean, there is a reason people leave bgs and most of the time it's already over when someone joins.
I will say there are times when joining a bg i jave been able to turn things around woth my team, but that is rare. I am not saying dont ever add people, just gove us the option to opt out of joining a bg in Progress.
Most games in 4v4s are decided by 1 or 2 people making plays. Sounds like you just need to make better plays, on average.
Edited by thesarahandcompany on May 3, 2026 10:55PMSarahandcompany
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✭thesarahandcompany wrote: »Thumbless_Bot wrote: »This could be taken two ways so I want to be clear i am not talking about abandoning two team development because there are at least 10 or 12 people in eso that enjoy the format. And those people should be able to play the game they enjoy.
I am talking about individual bgs and the sunken cost of adding players to an existing match.
There are countless reasons people leave bgs, but the vast .ajority do so because of the invariably lopsided outcomes.
Please do not force us to join existing bgs. Maybe make it an option in the ui to only join new bgs. I mean, there is a reason people leave bgs and most of the time it's already over when someone joins.
I will say there are times when joining a bg i jave been able to turn things around woth my team, but that is rare. I am not saying dont ever add people, just gove us the option to opt out of joining a bg in Progress.
Most games in 4v4s are decided by 1 or 2 people making plays. Sounds like you just need to make better plays, on average.
Disagree with the premise. Then again, "making plays" is a pretty vague statement. So there's lots of wiggle.room to adjust your meaning.
Also disagree with the conclusion. I have no issues impacting 4v4. Walking into a 4v3 domination match that is 400-10 with all three of my teammates.getting spawn camped is not fun. I will likely get a few kills and not die. Not sure who is "making plays" in this example, but again. It's not fun... I am only advocating for a toggle that lets me avoid this if I choose.
Also, I think your attempt at an insult misses the point of my post. An example of which I just gave above.Edited by Thumbless_Bot on May 4, 2026 10:51AM0 -
I very much like 4v4 game mode. 8v8 can be fun but they just need to put in effort, instead of making it and then leaving it be for years.
PvP activities need updates every patch.Edited by SundarahFr3akinrican on May 7, 2026 2:23AM1