Night Market Opinion Poll

Lazarus37 · April 30

It's too difficult (Solo Player)

Have limited amount of play time and cannot wait around for grouping.

Did enter the event but got one shotted all the time.
So, a waste of my time and will not be particpating further.

E_Lucan · April 30

I like the concept of it, but the instancing messes it up pretty badly (I prefer Harrowstorm-style open world group content to separated 12-player groups personally) and some of the content feels like it's trying too hard to be difficult.

There are points where it feels challenging, but fun in a group, but for example in the Skittering Precinct skirmish we wiped in a 12-player group (tank and healer present, not just DPS) so many times the skirmish ended and we gave up - in that event, it felt like it wasn't just scaled for 12 players with reasonable gear and builds, but rather for 12 vet HM trial players running the top meta builds, and nobody else.

Yes, the event is supposed to be tough and I like that it is tough, but I think it shouldn't be so tough that you feel like you're not good enough to participate even if you are in a group of the intended size.

*And some of the mechanics just feel like they're not particularly well built for groups to begin with - e.g. you respawn at a set point on the map, but what are you supposed to do when your group is a few corridors away? The mobs will kill you before you get there. Same with entering the map as a new group member when the group is already fighting a boss. I wish there was a way, like in dungeons, for a portal to appear and take you closer to the group.

SeaGtGruff · April 30

As I posted in a couple of other threads, I went back in for a third go at it (or my second go on PCNA, since my first go was on PCEU), and I had a great time running around with a group that started out as 3 or 4 players but grew to 11 or 12. Grouping is definitely the way to go, and the rewards seem pretty nice so far.

I don't know if I can do this every day for the next month or two-- it could get old fast-- but it's definitely something I can enjoy doing from time to time. And hopefully I'll be able to familiarize myself with the zones while I'm running around with groups, such that if I do end up having to go in solo due to playing at "off hours" of the night on a given server, I'll be better able to run around doing daily quests without getting completely lost while trying to run past everything.

Heronisan · April 30

Killed all bosses in skittering precinct and the parch as a 4 man team in 2-3 hours roughly.

As a 12 man team or 6+ this starts to get trivial

The trash you meet on the way have around 200-500k hp

Which is what you would find in Elden hollow 2 or banished cells 2 etc.

We killed these trash packs in like 3 seconds

So if small groups cant get past trash, it is sort of self reporting what content they struggle with.

Theres alot more incomming dmg here thou, but still.

Had lots of fun, and its nice to have something other then vet hm dlc dungeons to group for

Malprave · April 30

Tallon_IV wrote: »

Difficulty aside, the rewards are atrocious. Not worth all the effort.

Wrong

Tallon_IV · April 30

Malprave wrote: »

Tallon_IV wrote: »

Difficulty aside, the rewards are atrocious. Not worth all the effort.

Wrong

Such a compelling argument.

magnus01 · April 30

Malprave wrote: »

Tallon_IV wrote: »

Difficulty aside, the rewards are atrocious. Not worth all the effort.

Wrong

3 gear sets every player thats been here more then 2 year already has
2 monster sets i couldn't give a hoot about
and a house that you needs to bust ya ass just to unlock the rooms

i have a 120$ house with all amenities
and a chest that displays you're wealth when in the house

yea id say thats pretty useless

beer781993 · April 30

I did all zone bosses and zone daylies once yesterday with some friends.
We really didn't like how it's not possible to port out of this zone. Really annoying...

It's very badly designed in terms of visibility and orientation. It's hard to keep track of your group members and not losing each other. Quest markers are confusing and not working well. Then this fervor spheres are barely visible and I keep missing them.

Then we have the performance problem on ps5. Overall Fps in group fights are below 30...

Enemies have way too many disabling effects that stun, silence or throw you to the ground. It's not hard or anything but it's annoying and absolutely not fun. I really must say with a burning passion how much I hate that.

Fights felt boring and were just old bosses recycled with different colors or names. Can't you come up with something new?

Enemies respawn too quickly, you can't even look around without fighting the same trash pack 3 or 4 times.

Then we have this mini games. None of us liked them. They are boring and just a drag.

For my part, I will get all achievs because I am a collector and then never again step inside this mess.

If they just made new dungeons or finally a new Arena like black rose 😞

Nm won't increase your playerbase. Do more dungeons/arenas/real trials or PvP content.

And if you do PvP content then for the love of god watch the performance....

Tavore1138 · April 30

ultimately having to wade through a couple of dozen non-trivial groups on my own with zero loot, apart from a shining ball that gave me 15 'favour', just to do 1/3rd of the first quest was enough to make me not care. i can't imagine what kind of rewards *would* make me put myself through this.

o_Primate_o · April 30

Night Market is a GROUP ZONE - Get over it.
Some bosses can be killed with one T, one H, and one DD (I've done a few this way while waiting for larger groups)
Night Market is a GROUP ZONE. type "LFG" in zone and accept group request.
Night Market is a GROUP ZONE. type "LFG, can share daily - such-and-such". You might have better luck if you pick up one of the six quests that drop coffers having a chance for splinter.
Zerg surf
Night Market is a GROUP ZONE. Is it hard? Yes. TY TY TY ZOS. I joined EOS after they nerfed Craglorn so IDK if there's a comparable - but it is def much better than Season of the Worm group zone.

Aydh · April 30

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

rewards overall i think are fine, though i would say overland and base game trial sets are not really great (should include ALL trials sets, at least non perfected)

agree. the loot is a little weak, making this place drop bound non-perfected trial gear randomly from any trial would be interesting to see.

TX12001rwb17_ESO · April 30

If people want difficult content, that is what the incoming difficulty settings are for, I so far have not been able to kill a single enemy on my arcanist and have only managed to score 2 kills on my necromancer, the DK is the only one who can actually do anything in there.

BardokRedSnow · April 30

I started out as a solo player and still solo mostly when my duo isnt online, so I dunno, Im grouped and solo. Either way I love it, its been fun as hell, even when I have gotten frustrated by something, like wiping to a boss that was easy prior because the group me n her joined didnt kill the wandering boss first before taking on the skirmish in the area lol.

That was still amazing though because of the dynamic feel to it, and its another mechanic to consider for each area.

If every bit of new content is so easy that you can nod off while doing it, it makes the game feel lame. Its a big reason why we usually only pvp, besides to get content found in pve, for pvp.

Now though I am actually having a good time out here away from Cyrodiil besides just IA

Nemesis7884 · April 30

Overwhelming at first but you get the lay of the land quite quickly and will find a group fast...It gets a bit grindy after a while...

Destai · April 30

I have pretty mixed-to-negative feelings on it.

The free house was the only real positive for me. That's it. In theory, I like that it grows with your zone progression. But sadly, I don't feel motivated to play this. So that house is just going to sit there. I don't like that it's time-limited, and I don't understand why ZOS continues to lean into that model.

The difficulty can be overcome, but why bother? The rewards just aren't worth the effort. I'm not going to do veteran level content for that. I'm just not doing unrewarding content anymore. If that means I don't play, fine.

I'm not sure why they decided that overland gear sets from the base game and older content should be in the rewards. At best I get a piece of Trial Gear from SO, right? And a handful of furnishings. That's it. There's a vast inventory of crown crate content, timed deals, old event skins, skill styles, houses, antiquity leads - and none of that is in there. They could've at least made the vendors comparable in value to the IA vendors.

Hopefully they can figure the rewards when it comes back.

Dracane · April 30

Just make a group posting or join a group posting. Groups fill within seconds at the moment.
No need at all to play solo; not like it's really doable or efficient to do.

coop500 · April 30

Yeah the rewards are a joke. I ran around on my solo build late last night, and managed to clear some trash and soft-joined a group to beat 2 bosses. We just got... random overland crap. Why? Why is some of the toughest content most of us will ever see giving OVERLAND gear? Not even DLC overland gear either but utter basegame CRAP? Even a master lock chest gave me one blue weapon for plague doctor... WUT?!

Dracane · April 30

We are having a blast. It was loudly said from the start that this is group content, and I think it's a lot of fun. Chaotic and strange, but fun. Not challenging enough though when you have a group.

Tandor · April 30

I've done the introductory quest twice (I have 3 accounts each on 2 servers) just to get the free house, although I'm not sure that's worth doing on the other rosters as it has little in the way of rooms unless your playstyle lends itself to veteran dungeon/trial level content which mine doesn't. The comments I've seen regarding the districts and their encounters tell me it's really not my scene.

Which is fine, as it's labelled as veteran level content in a group zone. That is fair enough given the extra challenge some players are demanding. However, everyone else is missing their new content this year that that they would previously have had in chapters, so I understand why some solo/more casual players will comment adversely on this particular focus of veteran player/group zone. It's a shame that it didn't have 2 difficulty options for that reason, then everyone could have enjoyed it.

Grimseth · April 30

It's too difficult for me, as a solo player. Tried today, but... it's too hard to be fun. I'll skip this event definetely.

SolidBeast · April 30

It's... boring. I already did quite a bit of the grind but there's a distinct feeling of "What's the point? What next?" You're doing the little quests around the zone, getting your meager rewards and at some point, you're kind of stumped as to what to do next. Honestly, the events and mini-events are very badly telegraphed, the UI is confusing and I don't even understand what that chart with the bosses means because no one explains it. I picked up the main quest on one character, but it wasn't popping for my main, so I relogged and rejected the quest on the other one, now I have no way to pick it back up? Just overall a confusing mess with poor rewards and I predict it will be dead content very soon.

Lirkin · April 30

The night market sucks as it is all group content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I play the game solo so will not pay for this content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Golden pursuits is also now all group stuff!!!!!!!!!!

Kendric5 · April 30

Lazarus37 wrote: »

It's too difficult (Solo Player)

Have limited amount of play time and cannot wait around for grouping.

Did enter the event but got one shotted all the time.
So, a waste of my time and will not be particpating further.

I agree completely and not the Golden Pursuits are all group content!!!!!!!!

Will not participate!!

I want solo content or will not pay to play!

I can't even spent the gold I already earned as the ventors are not available to spend it!!!!

Oznog666 · April 30

Lirkin wrote: »

The night market sucks as it is all group content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I play the game solo so will not pay for this content!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Golden pursuits is also now all group stuff!!!!!!!!!!

What a surprise - a content which was announced as group content is..... group content.

Did you have to pay for this content? It was free but maybe this was just for us player in Europe xD

Thumbless_Bot · April 30

I haven't engaged with it except to port there and get a quest. I am so exhausted by zos that I couldn't even listen to the quest dialog.

lurkin777 · April 30

This content for group only players sucks for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also have limited time so do not group.

Will not pay to play this!

I want solo content or I give up on ESO!

Melivar · April 30

I was able to get the main quest, 1 daily and a few bosses completed by jumping around groups via the group finder last night for the different zones. Seemed to always be several groups doing things throughout the night as I jumped in and out.

Pretty sure it was mostly my computer but I had a fair amount of lag that lead to many deaths from causes I couldn't see until the death recap lol.

Overall it was pretty darn tough in there but alot of fun. Make sure you equip a heal for sure as your going to need it.

Don't be afraid to give it a try sure there will be much suffering but also much fun as well.

I would also suspect some tweaks to difficulty in the coming weeks to help ease the pain of at least trying to sneak around solo for the main quests. Doesn't need that much but a chance to get a heal off if by yourself would be most helpful.

CameraBeardThePirate · April 30

Lazarus37 wrote: »

It's too difficult (Solo Player)

Have limited amount of play time and cannot wait around for grouping.

Did enter the event but got one shotted all the time.
So, a waste of my time and will not be particpating further.

You don't have to wait around for grouping. There's a thing called the group finder. You click a button and instantly get added to the group. These groups fill fast and once you have about 7 or 8 people you can start killing just about everything.

Zodiarkslayer · April 30

I don't have a problem with group content or even difficult content.

The rewards for this event are disproportionately bad for me. The only thing worth grinding is the leads for the Shattered Paths Signet. That's my problem.

Everything else is just not for me. That's cool. It doesn't have to be. I got other stuff that I want to do. Everybody else is welcome to have fun there.

SundarahFr3akinrican · April 30

You solo players have so much content in this game. It's crazy that yall complain. It's literally been the death of mmos.