Why is there a timer at the end of a dungeon?

Diminish · April 28

tomofhyrule wrote: »

It's because each dungeon is an instance, and the goal is to get that server space back.

Yes, people run dungeons solo and then the timer doesn't trigger, but I think that's an edge case that was not considered when the timer was implemented. But in general, the original idea was that people would run the dungeon and get out so the instance could be freed, and not have one person AFK in the instance holding it open for eternity.

Finn made a post on the PTS forum talking about how more smaller instances actually make performance worse for the overall game, so the idea is that one person is not able to essentially hold the game's performance hostage. I'm sure they could increase the timer, but the exact thing they don't want is for one person to make a permanent instance of an empty dungeon (times hundreds of players) which would start to degrade performance over the whole game.

Which makes zero sense. 4 people run a dungeon, 3 leave at the end, remaining player gets a timer. 1 person runs a dungeon, still spins up a new instance, and you can remain there indefinitely.

The timer makes no sense. Perhaps it is just their way to push players out of an instance at the end to get them to do other activities. You don't even get a timer after the last boss if you go in solo... which if it was a way to free up server resources one would think you would.

How it's currently designed makes zero sense. 500 people could port into the same dungeon solo and spin up 500 unique instances of that dungeon. The timer serves zero purpose when it only activates when you initially go in grouped.

jle30303 · April 29

YffresTrill wrote: »

Agreed! I have often wished for this. It used to be much worse, however -- the timer used to be only a few seconds and there would not even be time to turn in the quest often, if everyone else immediately left.

On a related note, I would also like the option to opt out of getting immediately pulled to a boss as soon as the speed runner arrives at it. I often get pulled away from a chest I am opening, loot I am collecting, or trash mobs I am fighting. I am glad the option for the pull exists (so you can still get credit for the last boss even when there is a speed runner) but it should not be obligatory.

What I would like is:

If one player runs ahead and starts the boss fight... the 3 other players get an immediate double option pop up: (1) jump ahead to him, or (2) pull him back to last player in the group. With the option of doing neither. Majority vote wins, and the result happens to all players.

zaria · April 29

tomofhyrule wrote: »

It's because each dungeon is an instance, and the goal is to get that server space back.

Yes, people run dungeons solo and then the timer doesn't trigger, but I think that's an edge case that was not considered when the timer was implemented. But in general, the original idea was that people would run the dungeon and get out so the instance could be freed, and not have one person AFK in the instance holding it open for eternity.

Finn made a post on the PTS forum talking about how more smaller instances actually make performance worse for the overall game, so the idea is that one person is not able to essentially hold the game's performance hostage. I'm sure they could increase the timer, but the exact thing they don't want is for one person to make a permanent instance of an empty dungeon (times hundreds of players) which would start to degrade performance over the whole game.

The timer only happens if you enter with the dungeon finder, random or specific dungeon. If you port directly to it or walk in it will not close as long as your logged in. Same if your grouped with someone from the finder, even if they log out or switch character as i understand

And an empty instance with nothing happening should to take much performance. Its lots of quest instances after all, same with houses, here they have to populate the house before loading while I assume dungeons are optimized so faster to load.