ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »As for today's login not counting, this is a known issue if you were already logged into the game when the Season began (it has to do with when the game's database saves occur).
Still chuckling at the daily login challenge, which I noticed from some people's comments on PTS.
I'd rather just have my daily login reward back.
Still chuckling at the daily login challenge, which I noticed from some people's comments on PTS.
I'd rather just have my daily login reward back.
Yep. I enjoyed the idea of removing the daily login rewards, and I was very excited about the new system. But now, after realizing that the pressure to force daily logins hasn't ended but has intensified, I would undoubtedly prefer the end of this new feature and a return to daily login rewards.
LatentBuzzard wrote: »Truly special ZOS logic. They remove daily login rewards to supposedly reduce the daily chores and FOMO and then stick a daily login reward back in.
All this talk of how they're trying to do better for the players and they haven't actually changed at all.
Elvenheart wrote: »I haven’t yet got home from work to see the new Tome. From what I’m hearing, is everyone saying that they’ve put a reason to login every single day again like they had before? If this is true, I think this is an awful design. It should have been weekly, not daily. I hope I’m just not understanding this correctly.
There are 5 weeklies, these can be done every week, or even every 2 weeks without missing out on anything.Elvenheart wrote: »I haven’t yet got home from work to see the new Tome. From what I’m hearing, is everyone saying that they’ve put a reason to login every single day again like they had before? If this is true, I think this is an awful design. It should have been weekly, not daily. I hope I’m just not understanding this correctly.
Elvenheart wrote: »I haven’t yet got home from work to see the new Tome. From what I’m hearing, is everyone saying that they’ve put a reason to login every single day again like they had before? If this is true, I think this is an awful design. It should have been weekly, not daily. I hope I’m just not understanding this correctly.
There's a seasonal endeavor that will award you 15 tome points for logging in, collectible once per day. Whether you consider 15 points a big drive to log in is a different matter. For myself, missing 15 points won't bother me.
I'm going to disagree with that take a bit. The big FOMO with the daily login rewards was missing out on a particular one, like Day 7, 14, or 21. The rewards toward the end of the month were usually the same from month to month: gold, AP, Tel Var, and upgrade mats. If you get right down to the nitty-gritty, every day that you don't log in means you're missing out on something, whether that be rewards for daily crafting writs, rewards for daily pledges, rewards from BGs/Cyrodiil/IC, loot from dungeons/arenas/Trials, or whatever. Heck, you even lose a day of those Hireling mails if you don't log in. 15/30/45/etc. Tome Points should not be making or breaking anyone's game, so why stress over it or be upset about its existence?
LatentBuzzard wrote: »I'm going to disagree with that take a bit. The big FOMO with the daily login rewards was missing out on a particular one, like Day 7, 14, or 21. The rewards toward the end of the month were usually the same from month to month: gold, AP, Tel Var, and upgrade mats. If you get right down to the nitty-gritty, every day that you don't log in means you're missing out on something, whether that be rewards for daily crafting writs, rewards for daily pledges, rewards from BGs/Cyrodiil/IC, loot from dungeons/arenas/Trials, or whatever. Heck, you even lose a day of those Hireling mails if you don't log in. 15/30/45/etc. Tome Points should not be making or breaking anyone's game, so why stress over it or be upset about its existence?
Nothing in the daily rewards was making or breaking anyone's game. Not the houses, not the DLCs, not the costumes, nothing. That's completely irrelevant though as FOMO isn't tied to the subjective importance of an item, only that you have a limited window in which to receive that item and after that you can't. ZOS said they were getting rid of the daily rewards to reduce the feeling of having to do chores and FOMO and then turned right around and introduced the exact same mechanic. It shows that they haven't changed and this whole "we want to be different and do better by the players act" is exactly that, an act.
LatentBuzzard wrote: »Nothing in the daily rewards was making or breaking anyone's game. Not the houses, not the DLCs, not the costumes, nothing. That's completely irrelevant though as FOMO isn't tied to the subjective importance of an item, only that you have a limited window in which to receive that item and after that you can't. ZOS said they were getting rid of the daily rewards to reduce the feeling of having to do chores and FOMO and then turned right around and introduced the exact same mechanic. It shows that they haven't changed and this whole "we want to be different and do better by the players act" is exactly that, an act.
Change the word "claim" to "be granted" and that is correct. It seems the first login of the day has some special id and if you logged in before these went live then you won't get it for today. Shouldn't be an issue going forward, I'd think.karthrag_inak wrote: »and, of course, to claim the login, we must be logged in, but if we logged in before the reward was claimable, then even though we did not claim the login, we cannot receive it, because it is of the flawed opinion that we already claimed it.
yes?
LootAllTheStuff wrote: »LatentBuzzard wrote: »I'm going to disagree with that take a bit. The big FOMO with the daily login rewards was missing out on a particular one, like Day 7, 14, or 21. The rewards toward the end of the month were usually the same from month to month: gold, AP, Tel Var, and upgrade mats. If you get right down to the nitty-gritty, every day that you don't log in means you're missing out on something, whether that be rewards for daily crafting writs, rewards for daily pledges, rewards from BGs/Cyrodiil/IC, loot from dungeons/arenas/Trials, or whatever. Heck, you even lose a day of those Hireling mails if you don't log in. 15/30/45/etc. Tome Points should not be making or breaking anyone's game, so why stress over it or be upset about its existence?
Nothing in the daily rewards was making or breaking anyone's game. Not the houses, not the DLCs, not the costumes, nothing. That's completely irrelevant though as FOMO isn't tied to the subjective importance of an item, only that you have a limited window in which to receive that item and after that you can't. ZOS said they were getting rid of the daily rewards to reduce the feeling of having to do chores and FOMO and then turned right around and introduced the exact same mechanic. It shows that they haven't changed and this whole "we want to be different and do better by the players act" is exactly that, an act.
tt's not quite the same though, is it? The only thing you get for claiming the daily login is some points. It's not like you're going to miss out on the end-of-month goodies if you don't log in daily and claim all the stuff you instantly destroy because you won't ever use it. So missing a couple of days here and there really doesn't impact your rewards over the month any more.
Currency doesn't carry over, buying out the free track is quite a bit less than the potential earnings even if you get all lowest value weeklies. The premium track has no time limit. So while it could be an issue (I think the unlock goals are unnecessarily high) it's not a "you always want more" situation, you just need enough.BretonMage wrote: »Still too early to tell at this stage, but I feel more FOMO now than I did before, because now it's earning currency: you always want more. (Though perhaps that was intended, in which case, well-played, ZOS, lol).
PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »Currency doesn't carry over, buying out the free track is quite a bit less than the potential earnings even if you get all lowest value weeklies. The premium track has no time limit. So while it could be an issue (I think the unlock goals are unnecessarily high) it's not a "you always want more" situation, you just need enough.BretonMage wrote: »Still too early to tell at this stage, but I feel more FOMO now than I did before, because now it's earning currency: you always want more. (Though perhaps that was intended, in which case, well-played, ZOS, lol).
I bet you did get those 500 tome points.And one of the weekly rewards for me did not work properly.
To wit: Out of my 5 weekly rewards, one is "Defeat the Serpent in Sanctum Ophidia". A one-off, for just over 500 tomepoints.
I did this - I was even the group's founder and leader - and it did not count. It still says 0/1 rather than 1/1.
allochthons wrote: »My dailies include "Mine 15 ore nodes. 0/15" So I did my surveys, picked up 3 extra blacksmith nodes, and earned my 80 Tome Points.
But I did another blacksmithing survey, and now the Tome screen says "Mine 15 ore nodes: 6/15"
BloodWolfe wrote: »I was in-game but quit probably 2 minutes before flip over so too close I guess, but ya I have no login credit for today in my tracker either.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hi all, going to address two things here:
- As for today's login not counting, this is a known issue if you were already logged into the game when the Season began (it has to do with when the game's database saves occur). We are looking to fix this for future Seasons, though just be aware it may not be fixed in time for Season One.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hi all, going to address two things here:Also, please note that you are not required to log in every day to finish the Tome.
- The 99 days is a catch-all for future Seasons that may have more than 97 days, which Season Zero does have. We'll look at improving this logic for the future, but at this time it is intended.
- As for today's login not counting, this is a known issue if you were already logged into the game when the Season began (it has to do with when the game's database saves occur). We are looking to fix this for future Seasons, though just be aware it may not be fixed in time for Season One.
PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »BloodWolfe wrote: »I was in-game but quit probably 2 minutes before flip over so too close I guess, but ya I have no login credit for today in my tracker either.
I was in game 7 hours before flip and got no credit. I think it just counted from daily reset. If you were logged in at all before tomes appeared you got no credit.