It's just a low res jpg 😂

I'm struggling to see what in the heck I'm doing, white highlight upon a white background. This ui is terrible,

They need to get some console users more involved in testing things instead of just PTS on PC. The new Tome UI does look pretty beta and hard to navigate on console.

And while on the topic of console the frame rate in ESO is really bad in certain areas on PS5 Pro. In the Solstice delves it drops way down and stutters.

I gave them a lot of feedback on the pts. They did say some of it could not be fixed before live. Imo it still needs a ton of work but it is also better than how it appeared on the pts in a lot of ways thankfully.

I thought it was glitches, text is far too small with a large expanse of space around the outside. Very, very poor design.

Its horrible, very very clunky !!!


And its not clear where to click, there is no resizing, cannot move it, its locked in the corner. The icons are tiny. Try and preview some of the costume parts still have to manually press a button, while some of the parts sometimes auto preview. Its not very practical, or easy to see how to get back to the tomes when looked at the challenges, maybe as this is because we cannot move/resize it.


its just plain clunky and un appealing, if want me to use this system they should make it lot easier to navigate.


They give us all these recent good QoL features for the game then they come up with shoddy , not user friendly UI for the tomes

Maybe they should go take a look at Where winds meet, a free to play game that seems to have a very clear battle pass system compared to this effort by ZoS.

A lot of people raised these issues when it was on the PTS, but as always what they give us for "testing" is the finished version with no time in their schedule for anything more than minor numerical adjustments to fix bugs.

By the next time it could be fixed they'll probably tell us we're used to it and like the way it's done so it can't be changed.

Agreed about the white highlight against a pale background and white frame. I really don't understand why it seems so hard for designers to understand the need for sufficient contrast. It's one of those accessibility issues that, when addressed properly, benefits everyone.

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Agreed about the white highlight against a pale background and white frame. I really don't understand why it seems so hard for designers to understand the need for sufficient contrast. It's one of those accessibility issues that, when addressed properly, benefits everyone.

As a professional designer myself I feel fairly confident in saying this wasn’t laid out by someone who was formally trained in art or design, it violates soooo many design rules. This seems much more like it got shoved off on an intern because the real artists are working on other things.

Very clunky, haphazard, and unintuitive.

I made a VERY rough mockup of something that imo at least would have felt more intuitive. The book being weirdly cut off is jarring so put a whole book instead. Make use of one side of the book to CLEARLY list what's Premium and Free, with enough space that it's clear to tell which is which, page info at bottom still. Make use of the other side for the Challenge stuff, instead of having to navigate to a completely different UI that doesn't match the aesthetic of the Tome at all (and can be difficult to figure out how to get back to the Tome as well).

Also changing pages on the left side wouldn't affect the right side, it would always show what Challenges you have regardless of what page you're looking at on the left.

I also really struggled with the UI.

I couldn't easily figure out the Premium was in the box, I thought it was the row under.

Previewing cosmetics is awful, it's so difficult in the UI. Going back and forwards previewing is really unpleasant.

The tasks are challenging to understand, time wise. Clicking through is annoying, and I'm not sure how to get there easily.
I wish it was still under the Endeavours section, and used a similar UI, as that was easy to understand and access. I don't see why it couldn't have a new menu for Tomes there.

Redeeming an item was also unintuitive, I've never had to hold to claim an item. A pop up to confirm would be more in line with the way everything else works.

Yeah, I am sorry to say - it's absolutely dreadful.

I get the idea to have the visual elements of a tome - that's fine. But it can't impact functionality the way it currently does.

UI needs to convey relevant information with as little navigation/interaction as possible.
The most important parts in the tome section, at least to me, are:

- Challenges. Which challenges can I currently do, how many points do I get from them, and how much time do I have to do them.
- Rewards. Most importantly, unique rewards need to stand out, compared to currencies and consumables. It needs to be clear which rewards are only available with the Premium pass.

Currently, challenges are a bit too obscure. While it's selected by default when opening the tome UI, it shares the same problem as all other elements in being too small. Further, it would be immensely helpful if each challenge showed the total amount earnable, so if you can complete a challenge that grants 60 points 6 times, it should list 360 somewhere.

Rewards are a mess to navigate through, especially with a gamepad. Whenever possible, everything should be presented as a list, so I can browse through it in one direction. Too much screen space is wasted on nothing, the important elements are too small, and it is not clear which element is highlighted/selected because the background color is too bright in comparison.

The page selection is confusing, almost appearing bugged, starting at 0 and ending in 2 symbols for "bonus pages". I don't mind the concept of a Season Zero, with Emperor Zero and all that, but pages in a book, or a tome, usually start with 1 ... stick to it.
Side note: overall, wanting to select specific pages will be such a common occurence. You might browse through the tome to see what is available, in which case you'll flick through every page, or you'll want to buy something, which is most likely the highest currently unlocked page. You could lose a lot of visual noise by focusing on those.

I do not understand how this UI was allowed to hit the live service. It feels like a proof-of-concept mock-up of functionality with no attempt yet to integrate into the underlying game's visual and interaction principles.

There is much of the game's current visual direction that I have no problem with as elements of a game in general, but strongly dislike as elements of this game. (Exemplified by the visual pollution of the arcanist, new DK, and sparklefart mounts.) They may be well-designed game elements in isolation, but not for the context of this particular game (imhoe obviously).

This does not hold for the Tome UI however. Both the Tome and the Challenges panels feel very amateurish and unpolished as game UI in general, for any game. The whole thing feels reminiscent of the sub-€5-games on Steam by one guy with an interesting idea but insufficiently broad skills in execution.

Specifically for ESO,

• the visual design feels conflicting with the rest of the game -- especially the recent major 'simplification' overhaul;
• the functional design, how the UI 'works' and how the player interacts with the functionality and how the UI panels are integrated into the broader UI, feels disconnected from an mismatched to the rest of the game.

At minimum, it seems to me, the Challenges panel should be moved into the Group & Activity side panel where Golden Pursuits are and the previous Endeavours were.

I would like to make better UI tbh, at least try to. I am not UI guy either, but last time I was disappointed by UI (list of campaigns), I did this and people liked it. The idea was to place all campaigns to one tab with all info quickly available + it is interactive (double click to queue, hover over to see additional info)

Now I also want to do something similar and place all rewards into one screen like this .

I have just started and trying to find all API functions to get all rewards, etc, so it is very rough first estimation. It is going to have numbers on bottom, bigger offsets between tiers, between premium and standard rewards, different backgrounds, outline, checks to see already bought items, etc. Basically, one column = one tier (1..10), top 5 are premium, bottom 5 are standard. If you can share your thought on this, and any other ideas, or schematic layout, I will look into it and try to implement it (screenshot without drawing if you want to use it https://imgur.com/SW1dHST)